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Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:21

Not to mention the astonishing admission that one can dislike a band (an entity that exists for musical entertainment foremost, not visual entertainment) that one previously liked based on a live performance, but it is ridiculous and shameful to want a players to apparently stand and deliver like statues.

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:21

The "Is Dream Theater just self-indulgent?" debate is age old. Dream Theater is quite simply a band that focuses on the quality of their sound performance first, and then the stage presence next. Simply put, they started with a great stage presence on their early albums, mellowed out a bit, but on their recent Chaos In Motion tour they seemed to have a bit more confidence.

Now is that such a crime? Some bands jump up and down like 13 year old girls seeing the Jonas Brothers for their entire set, so how is it even remotely arrogant of them to have fun [Portnoy standing up and whatnot]? Mike Portnoy is quite obviously a metal fan, so the headbanging, standing, etc. is just part of the show, lighten up.

As for him apparently yelling at the stage hand, Dream Theater take the precision of their live show very seriously, so if the mic wasn't swung at the right time, the performance may have suffered.

And if Portnoy is so arrogant and self centered, why does he put out countless demos, dvds, behind the scenes footage, bootlegs, etc, for his fans?

Finally, as MisterProg said, I met Mike last year and he was unbelieveably nice to each and every fan.

This is simply my opinion, please reply in a civilized way if you choose to reply at all.

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 22:57

Sorry for acting a little immature over the past couple of days on this thread guys. I've edited all of my posts to show that I'm a bit more intelligent then I acted, also so nothing offends anyone, and I'm sorry if I did. I was trying to have some fun with this guy because I knew he was probably one of those people who come on for a topic, and when it's finished and pretty dead, would've moved on and not come back.

Sorry again everyone.

-Mike

Edited by MisterProg2112 - August 25 2008 at 22:58

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 22:38

yeah its fun and games for the first few but sometimes people run at troll posts with full force and things get ugly

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 22:32

MisterProg2112 wrote:

Originally posted by stupidn00bwhocreatedtopic

stupidn00bwhocreatedtopic wrote:

I honestly don't know how I fail this much...it's beyond comprehension

Seriously now...is this really needed?

You disagree with him. We get it.

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 22:07

NaturalScience wrote:

~Rael~ wrote:

Portnoy is just an annoying, arrogant, overrated jerk-off.

Geoff Tate? Is that you? Wink

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 21:59

heyitsthatguy wrote:

it seems you've had a pre-existing problem with Portnoy and this set it off
also this thread is kinda funny because its like bizarro PA where people are rushing to defend DT rather than sh*t on them as per usual
notice they're more or less the only band that's allowed to have that happen
but
tradition is tradition

I also agree Portnoy can be a bit pompous but I judge by music and keep personal lives seperate. From my understanding Robert Fripp was a prick but he was a f**king amazing guitarist

Just like Maynard, great singer, huge jerk..from what I hear.

I met Portnoy last year, and I can honestly say that he is one of the nicest people I've ever met, that goes for the entire band actually, they love their fans. Also, I find him funny when he performs live, if he just sat there with a blank face for the entire show, it wouldn't be as fun to watch them.

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 21:54

~Rael~ wrote:

Portnoy is just an annoying, arrogant, overrated jerk-off.

Geoff Tate? Is that you? Wink

Edited by NaturalScience - August 25 2008 at 21:55

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 21:52

Can a mod move this too the Live Performance reviews please?

Edited by MisterProg2112 - August 25 2008 at 22:53

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 20:33

it seems you've had a pre-existing problem with Portnoy and this set it off
also this thread is kinda funny because its like bizarro PA where people are rushing to defend DT rather than sh*t on them as per usual
notice they're more or less the only band that's allowed to have that happen
but
tradition is tradition

I also agree Portnoy can be a bit pompous but I judge by music and keep personal lives seperate. From my understanding Robert Fripp was a prick but he was a f**king amazing guitarist

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 20:27

I didn't post this for the sole purpose of irritating people. As you can see, some people even seem to agree with me. And a forum where no one is allowed to express a distaste for any band seems like it would be a pretty boring opinion.

And ss for Portnoy being hilarious. . . Zappa was. Hilarious. Akerfeldt of Opeth is hilarious. Bela Fleck and the Flecktones are hilarious. Portnoy is just an annoying, arrogant, overrated jerk-off.

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 18:32

Oh my, you guys make me chuckle LOL

It's a band! Geez... PA is supposed to be celebrating bands. If you don't like them, don't listen to them! But don't, for the sake of not irritating people, bitch about them.

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 16:52

~Rael~ wrote:

MisterProg2112 wrote:

I am a loser who can't stand people who have a differing opinion than me, and throw around the term "fail" like a World of Warcraft addict.

See, I can do that too MisterProg.

I don't live close to Chicago actually, me and my dad drove about 5 hours for the concert.

And I am sorry if judging them solely on how I "percieved them to act" is something I shouldn't do, but hey, I can't like a band when the members act like assholes. They aren't that good.

And I will check out the band Canvas Solaris Plankowner, thanks for the suggestion.

And I know this is the "Appreciation" forum, but I didn't know where else to post this.

there's a live review subsection I believe where you can post things like this

I think personal problems with band members is a rather petty reason to dislike a band but could be a valid one nonetheless. However, both times I've seen them they just seemed like they were having a good time, nothing more.

also editing people's posts is so 2 years ago
though people use "fail" outside of WoW in that context, its permeated the majority of the internet

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 12:23

dude? Have you ever watched them live previously (on youtube/dvd) what not? they are all about musical pretentious w**k and you put brilliant musicans together and you get that technically amazing sound and hardcore solos

and portnoy is hilarious such an entertainer haha i wouldnt take them so literally :P

I thought they were brilliant live

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 12:07

live acts are part of what can make or break a band. terrible bands with great live acts are very successful and vice versa. how else would gwar make it? ive seen a some of DT's live stuff and wasnt very impressed, particularly with petrucci and labrie, but then again im not a big DT guy anyway. But i can see how it would put you off. i kind of had the opposite thing happen to me with magma. didnt like em, saw them live (video) and was blown away.
dont really understand everyone's reaction myself. . .

Edited by keiser willhelm - August 25 2008 at 12:08

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 10:25

Honestly, it's annoying how much flac you're getting for this thread...

cause Dream Theater sucks...

IMO

Edited by The Antique - August 25 2008 at 10:25

I'm a reasonable man, get off my case

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 08:49

MisterProg2112 wrote:

I am a loser who can't stand people who have a differing opinion than me, and throw around the term "fail" like a World of Warcraft addict.

See, I can do that too MisterProg.

I don't live close to Chicago actually, me and my dad drove about 5 hours for the concert.

And I am sorry if judging them solely on how I "percieved them to act" is something I shouldn't do, but hey, I can't like a band when the members act like assholes. They aren't that good.

And I will check out the band Canvas Solaris Plankowner, thanks for the suggestion.

And I know this is the "Appreciation" forum, but I didn't know where else to post this.

Edited by ~Rael~ - August 25 2008 at 08:50

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