Saw Dream Theater live, and now I don't like them.
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Topic: Saw Dream Theater live, and now I don't like them.
Posted By: ~Rael~
Subject: Saw Dream Theater live, and now I don't like them.
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 16:25
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I saw DT in Chicago with 3, Between the Buried and me, and Opeth. It was a very dissapointing show (DT I mean, all the other bands were amazing). Don't get me wrong, DT sounded great, like listening to one of thier albums, but the arrogance ondisplay was astounding. Never, NEVER, have I seen such a self-absorbed band. John Myung was the only guy who came off as being cool, and big surprise, he had the least amount of solos. Rudess and Patrucci were alright, butthe constant close ups of thier soloes got really old really fast. You can play good, we get it, so could you stop showing off for 5 seconds and just play? Patrucci looked totally bored. He looked like he would rather be having a root canal. LaBrie was annoying as hell. He kept throwing the mic stand in there air like it was really a show o strength. It was just idiotic.Though the worst BY FAR was Mike Portnoy. What a DOUCHE. He kept standing up and nodding his head like he was hot sh*t. He would point to his little camera that was on his drum set, and when the stage hand was late with his mic, he bitched him out so everyone could hear in the middle of the song. It was shameful. Portnoy isn't that good. . . in fact, I would go so far as to say he may be the most overrated drummer of all time. There are so many greater drummers. Portnoy is mediocre at best.
You might be wondering (or you might not) why I haven't written this until now. Well, I decided to when I had my iTunes on shuffle and a DT song came on, and I hit skip right away. It was then I realized since the concert I have not listened to one DT song, and have no desire to.
I was a huge DT fan. Then I saw them live. It is something I greatly regret. ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . . |
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 16:32
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The showingoffish confidence is what makes them a good live band. If everyone stood like John Myung the whole show, it'd be just like listening to the record.
BTW Mike Portnoy is one of the funniest and lively performers I know. Also, he wasn't the youngest drummer to get inducted into the drummers hall of fame for no reason at all.
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Posted By: ~Rael~
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 17:35
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There is a diffeence between "showingoffish confidence" and complete cockiness. And, I don't really care when he was put in the "Drummers Hall of Fame," he is overrated beyond measure. And there was nothing funny about him. He acted like a moron.
Don't accuse me of failing just because I insult yout precious Dream Theater. That just makes you, sir, a jackass. ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . . |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 17:39
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I really really like Dream Theater. That being said, Mike Portnoy annoys the hell out of me a lot of the time. He's definetely not the best drummer in the world, and he seems to be more of an entertainer than an artist.
I can't speak about the rest of your post though, other than I'm jealous that you live near a town that had progressive nation, they didn't even come to any town In Arizona.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 17:41
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Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 17:51
After a while I got a bit bored of DT but after seeing them live in Puerto Rico for the first time I started loving them again. Still one of my all time favorites.
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 20:55
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burritounit wrote:Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 22:51
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so you don't like them based entirely on how you perceived them to act good job thumbs up ------------- 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 01:28
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i saw DT back in march 06 in Asbury Park, and, yes, they did seem a tad over-confident in themselves, but i think when you write and play the kind of music they make, you kind of have to, otherwise you might mess up or something. That and there's some fans that get off on that stuff. Im surprised Im even defending them, i havent listened to DT in months (aside from my friend throwing A Change Of Seasons on yesterday, that was niiice!) btw, Myung is the "quiet Asian guy". That's why he chills a lot. what did he say, like, 4 words on the Live at Budokan DVD? and isnt this supposed to be an "appreciation" thread? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 01:35
| Rael, check out the band Canvas Solaris. |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 01:53
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Congratulations!
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 02:07
| Well, I enjoyed reading it. |
Posted By: ~Rael~
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 08:49
See, I can do that too MisterProg.
I don't live close to Chicago actually, me and my dad drove about 5 hours for the concert.
And I am sorry if judging them solely on how I "percieved them to act" is something I shouldn't do, but hey, I can't like a band when the members act like assholes. They aren't that good.
And I will check out the band Canvas Solaris Plankowner, thanks for the suggestion.
And I know this is the "Appreciation" forum, but I didn't know where else to post this. ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . . |
Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 10:25
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Honestly, it's annoying how much flac you're getting for this thread...
cause Dream Theater sucks... 
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 12:07
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live acts are part of what can make or break a band. terrible bands with great live acts are very successful and vice versa. how else would gwar make it? ive seen a some of DT's live stuff and wasnt very impressed, particularly with petrucci and labrie, but then again im not a big DT guy anyway. But i can see how it would put you off. i kind of had the opposite thing happen to me with magma. didnt like em, saw them live (video) and was blown away. dont really understand everyone's reaction myself. . . ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: Zoso-
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 12:23
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dude? Have you ever watched them live previously (on youtube/dvd) what not? they are all about musical pretentious w**k and you put brilliant musicans together and you get that technically amazing sound and hardcore solos and portnoy is hilarious such an entertainer haha i wouldnt take them so literally :P I thought they were brilliant live |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 16:52
there's a live review subsection I believe where you can post things like this I think personal problems with band members is a rather petty reason to dislike a band but could be a valid one nonetheless. However, both times I've seen them they just seemed like they were having a good time, nothing more. also editing people's posts is so 2 years ago though people use "fail" outside of WoW in that context, its permeated the majority of the internet -------------
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 18:32
 Oh my, you guys make me chuckle It's a band! Geez... PA is supposed to be celebrating bands. If you don't like them, don't listen to them! But don't, for the sake of not irritating people, bitch about them. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: ~Rael~
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 20:27
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I didn't post this for the sole purpose of irritating people. As you can see, some people even seem to agree with me. And a forum where no one is allowed to express a distaste for any band seems like it would be a pretty boring opinion.
And ss for Portnoy being hilarious. . . Zappa was. Hilarious. Akerfeldt of Opeth is hilarious. Bela Fleck and the Flecktones are hilarious. Portnoy is just an annoying, arrogant, overrated jerk-off. ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . . |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 20:33
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it seems you've had a pre-existing problem with Portnoy and this set it off also this thread is kinda funny because its like bizarro PA where people are rushing to defend DT rather than sh*t on them as per usual notice they're more or less the only band that's allowed to have that happen but tradition is tradition I also agree Portnoy can be a bit pompous but I judge by music and keep personal lives seperate. From my understanding Robert Fripp was a prick but he was a f**king amazing guitarist -------------
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 21:52
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Can a mod move this too the Live Performance reviews please? -------------
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 21:54
Geoff Tate? Is that you?  |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 21:59
Just like Maynard, great singer, huge jerk..from what I hear.
I met Portnoy last year, and I can honestly say that he is one of the nicest people I've ever met, that goes for the entire band actually, they love their fans. Also, I find him funny when he performs live, if he just sat there with a blank face for the entire show, it wouldn't be as fun to watch them. -------------
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 22:07
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 22:32
Seriously now...is this really needed?
 You disagree with him. We get it. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 22:38
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yeah its fun and games for the first few but sometimes people run at troll posts with full force and things get ugly
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 22:57
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Sorry for acting a little immature over the past couple of days on this thread guys. I've edited all of my posts to show that I'm a bit more intelligent then I acted, also so nothing offends anyone, and I'm sorry if I did. I was trying to have some fun with this guy because I knew he was probably one of those people who come on for a topic, and when it's finished and pretty dead, would've moved on and not come back.
Sorry again everyone.
-Mike
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:21
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The "Is Dream Theater just self-indulgent?" debate is age old. Dream Theater is quite simply a band that focuses on the quality of their sound performance first, and then the stage presence next. Simply put, they started with a great stage presence on their early albums, mellowed out a bit, but on their recent Chaos In Motion tour they seemed to have a bit more confidence.
Now is that such a crime? Some bands jump up and down like 13 year old girls seeing the Jonas Brothers for their entire set, so how is it even remotely arrogant of them to have fun [Portnoy standing up and whatnot]? Mike Portnoy is quite obviously a metal fan, so the headbanging, standing, etc. is just part of the show, lighten up.
As for him apparently yelling at the stage hand, Dream Theater take the precision of their live show very seriously, so if the mic wasn't swung at the right time, the performance may have suffered.
And if Portnoy is so arrogant and self centered, why does he put out countless demos, dvds, behind the scenes footage, bootlegs, etc, for his fans?
Finally, as MisterProg said, I met Mike last year and he was unbelieveably nice to each and every fan.
This is simply my opinion, please reply in a civilized way if you choose to reply at all. ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:21
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Not to mention the astonishing admission that one can dislike a band (an entity that exists for musical entertainment foremost, not visual entertainment) that one previously liked based on a live performance, but it is ridiculous and shameful to want a players to apparently stand and deliver like statues. Just stay at home. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:34
I actually think they've always been fun and like to joke around a lot, especially the altering of the lyrics (See on one of the Fan Club CD's the "What Did They Just Say Track, I know I've showed that to you before though Scott
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:36
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Agreed, thats what I was getting at. That track is truly hilarious backing up the point that theyre more or less regular guys that like to have fun. -------------
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:39
Man the exact thing happend to me! But I can´t say they where arrogans, in fact they where quite cool and Labrie even sung better than in the albums. They sounded great... but... I don´t know... I stoped liking them half thrue the show... and havent listen to a single song of them since (this was in march). I honestly think I needed a concert of them to realize I dont really like them... And yes, the showing off got really boring really fast, but the worst thing for me is that they pretty much played every song exactly like the studio versions... but I don´t think this was the only thing that led me to disliking them... I can´t put my finger on it, but I seriously don´t like them anymore after having seen them
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:42
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^ They must've not played Surrounded '07, deffinitley altered from the album version, sounds very good too. But like you said, not exactly the reason you stopped liking them. -------------
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:44
Along with the Medleys at the end which are always fun to see what they will consist of. -------------
"I was told, theres a new love that's born for each one that has died." |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:44
True, both medleys from ProgNation were superb -------------
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:46
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The entire show was superb xD.
They seem to get even better each tour in terms of precision. -------------
"I was told, theres a new love that's born for each one that has died." |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:49
They seem to just get better every tour  -------------
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:57
It´s the strangest thing. And I still think they are great guys, I for one don´t have a problem with Portnoy, I think he is a very nice guy and you can really see he loves what he does, and if anything positive came out I like Rudess more now than before, I even got some of his solo stuff... but Dream Theater as a band... no longer holds any interest for me. Maybe some day I will listen to them again and like it, but I know it´s not a band I would go to see again... ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:59
My friend is the same way, he wouldn't like to see them again, but he likes them a bit. His favorite band is Collective Soul though , not saying that Collective Soul is bad, but it's not really from a "Prog Fan's" point of view. -------------
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 00:00
I've experienced similar things with bands I used to like or love. What it came down to for me was the dryness of the material I had and the fact that there was nothing new. I dont feel that way for Dream Theater at all but you may. Maybe give their new album a listen when it comes out next year, or check out clips from their DVD online when it comes out in Sepetember, perhaps it would re-kindle your interest for them -------------
"I was told, theres a new love that's born for each one that has died." |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 00:04
The new DVD looks amazing. -------------
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Posted By: MisterProg3333
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 02:03
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Posted By: MisterProg3333
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 02:04
| lol i watches DT dvd right now with mister2112 he fails at life |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 03:14
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I apologize for my friend, I am over his house and he got a hold of my laptop while we were watching Score. -------------
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 04:03
I'm always fearful of seeing a band live that I really like and then coming away from the show disappointed or turned off by their live performance. I really hate it when that happens.
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 04:35
| Strangely enough, exactly the same happened to me last year during a Dream theater concert: DT were great, as always, but the supporting set by Symphony X was abysmal and I've not been able to listen to them since. Can't get that out of my head. I know it's wrong but that was a complete turn-off. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 11:12
The strange part is that I already knew what to expect, I have the Score dvd and really really like it... so, what was so different? Maybe the material they played? I mean the only song I really, really like from the new album was not played (Prophets of war) but instate I ended up with an encore of In presence of enemies 1 and 2... which quite frankly I find to be Dream Theaters worst material ever written, specially the second part. The whole "Dark master within" part was a bit shameful, I remember being with a friend at the concert and some people we had convinced to come with and we both feld a bit ashamed of this type of things. I guess LaBRIE´s name really makes sense... cheeeesyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy oh I´m just beyond hilarious ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 12:12
Portnoy mediocre? I wonder how he wins all those polls in drummer magazines ... I've seen them live 3 times and own 3 DVDs ... I love their performances. The cameras / hand closeups don't bother me at all ... rather the reverse. DT is a band which you want to watch playing. Nobody's forcing you to look at the screens though. As a guitarist, I love it. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 13:10
Another album already? All I have to say is: Make it better than Systematic was, Mike!
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Posted By: ~Rael~
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:20
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Sorry if I greatly offended anyone. I wasn't trying to be a troll, just sharing an opinion. And hearing that they are nice guys to the fans kind of changes my mind a little bit.
And, I was going to stick around on these boards rather than make a topic and leave when it was dead, but after all this, I doubt I will ever make a new thread. If you can't express an opinion without people being total dickheads to you, forget it. ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . . |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:48
Yeah, I wonder about that, too. ~Rael~, make sure you catch the reformed Cynic live, if you get the chance. I did about a month ago, and loved every second of it. No excessive fireworks here, though the music is quite technical. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:53
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^ If you hang around the forums any amount of time you will see that Dream Theater is easily the band that gets put down and bashed the most by posters on the forum. You'll also find that their fans within the forum are quite passionate about supporting them and defending them, but after doing it thread after thread after thread it does get old and the defending responses become as "trollish" as your original post was perceived, correctly or incorrectly.
That being said there is no reason for you to stop creating new threads or expressing your opinions. As a general rule most posters are quite friendly, but threads that start out with negative opinions are unfortunately bound to bring out the equally negative "positive" responses.
I do find it interesting that a band that you professed to have really liked before seeing them live, you now no longer like after seeing them live. I think that I have been quite fortunate in that seeing bands live has almost always had a positive effect on my opinion of the band. But it certainly is possible. My co-worker was a big fan of Van Morrison. She went to see him play live a month or so ago, and she said that the show was horrible. He came on stage without saying anything to the crowd and just started performing the first song, he spent most of the show with his back to the crowd, he maybe said 10 words to the crowd, he didn't perform Brown Eyed Girl, and he walked off the stage without saying good night after he finished singing the final song, while the band completed the song. He didn't come back for any encores. I suppose that I might still like his music, but I certainly would be hardpressed to want to go see him again. ------------- 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:03
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I actually thought SC was a step in the right direction and in the wrong direction at the same time it seems they took a mulligan for lyrics for a whole album so hopefully next album they get serious with them again anyway hopefully the new album has them not trying so hard to be 'metal', they found the perfect balance on Scenes and Six Degrees but then lost it with Train of Thought -------------
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 17:13
Agreed on some degree, possibly too much time spent on heaveyness and metal riffing, but I deffinitely dont hate it. Infact I love Train of Thought, and despite the harsh critism I think Systematic Chaos is a quality album. Not their best but certainly not their worst. I dont have a huge problem with the metal elements because I'm sure they'll never stray away from their prog backround.
Maybe they'll surprise us with something more like Scenes, but maybe Roadrunner Records is encouraging them to be more 'metal' like most of their other artists.
Regardless though, I'll be there at the store buying the album on day 1 anyway >_>. -------------
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Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 17:49
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I'm thinking that if I ever get to experience Dream Theater live, I might just close my eyes and only listen. Because watching them perform makes me appreciate the music less.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 17:54
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I agree that DT live is nothing special. I agree that Mike Portnoy
needs to be punched because he's so full of himself. I agree he's not
the best drummer in the world. However, you needn't dislike a band's music because you disagree with the character of the band members, you're just ruining something for yourself there. Also, mediocre is pretty harsh for describing Portnoy. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 20:14
That you are, but I think that musically, "In the Presence of Enemies" is a fine work. The lyrics are what make it poor, really, and they're only laughable in part two. I love just about the whole thing, but I also put minimal focus on the lyrics.
Well, didn't you at all expect it? This is the internet, after all, and your comments were pretty harsh and mean-spirited to begin with, so of course people are going to get all fussy. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: ~Rael~
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:14
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First, let me say thank you to rushfan4 for putting it all in perspective. I can understand someone coming to thier beloved band's defense. As to not liking DT only because of the live performance, that is just not wholly true. I always had a mixed feeling about DT. It took me a long time to get into them, and most of that time was spent training myself to ignore LaBrie's voice. I can't get into his voice or singing style, and never will be able it, just personal taste. Though, the music overshadows his voice enough to make it enjoyable listening. The concert was just a nail in the coffin, as it were. Maybe even saying "I don't like them" is a bit harsh. I am not going to trade in my DT CDs, but since the concert, I have had no desire to listen to them. I doubt I will go the rest of my life without ever listening to them again. My main reason for going to Chicago was for Opeth, because I didn't know how much they toured in the US. Of course, they are coming to St. Louis, which I already have tickets for (I didn't know they would be here in October at the time, I don't think it was scheduled). 3 was amazing also. Dream Theater was almost a bit to perfect. Like I said, it sounded like the CDs. . . the solos were identical. And, you have to admit, Patrucci's and Rudess's soloes are pretty much the same. They got boring for me after the 10th one. Portnoy didn't even do a solo. I thought a kickass drum solo was implied with a Dt concert. Maybe that is why I didn't like him much. I may have been able to overlook his stage persona if he had wowed me, but he didn't. I was expecting something to blow me away like one of Jordinson's solos, but he just played the songs as they were recorded. And Myung had one 10 second solo (if that long) and it kicked ass. He could have done more.
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:26
What was that Myung solo in? Did they play part of the instrumental section of Metropolis Pt. 1 at the ending medley?
As for Petrucci and Rudess, like I said, they are very precise. Some dont like it like you, as you'd probably like to see more jamming, others appreciate the fact that they CAN play whats on the record, unlike ridiculous bands like Dragonforce or something.
Although I have to disagree, often times Rudess will mash up his solos and make them sound much different, save a few like Dance of Eternity and the keyboard melodies. But a lot of solos like the short one in Under a Glass Moon, he does change them up. -------------
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:29
Roadrunner Records is encouraging nothing of the sort, the producer they worked with on SC was the same who worked with Rush on "Moving Pictures", and the label itself didn't suggest him, the band requested he be.
"If this band is going to say together, the label has to stay the f**k out of our music, no outside writers. The label will hear the album when it's finished. If this band is going to stay together, if this band is going to survive, everybody get out of our way, book the studio time and let us make our f**king record."
-Mike Portnoy around 1997/1998
If they stuck to the same formula every album they wouldn't be as great of a band as they are.
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:35
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You mistook what I meant. I didn't mean that Roadrunner was DIRECTLY encouraging them to be more metal, but possibly the thought of playing on Roadrunner could encourage such a direction.
But like you said, its merely the evolutionary process their music has taken. And not even to say theyve even been getting more metal. TOT was a metal turn, but they really brought back alot of the more mellowed out moments on Octavarium, and Systematic Chaos was a healthy middle man.
And besides, did Portnoy not ALSO state they would not be working with producers or outside writers anymore? Their was no producers for Systematic Chaos other then the credited ones- Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci. They had engineers and mixers and whatnot, but no producers. -------------
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:35
Also, Rael...another reason for no drum solo was because of curfews. Since there was 4 bands they were assigned strict time slots:
3 - 30 Minutes
BTBAM - 30 Minutes
Opeth - 60 Minutes
Dream Theater - 90 Minutes
Maybe, "An Evening With" show would've been more suitable for you, a much longer set..which allows them to play with some more variety..and add a few extra things in.
Another thing, I forgot to appologize to you directly about my comments earlier this week. Sorry again, no hard feelings hopefully. -------------
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:38
Prophets of War has yet to be played any show I'm pretty sure.
Also, like I said to Rael: Maybe "An Evening With" show would be more suiting for you, more variety..a better chance at you getting to hear some of your favorite songs.
Also, ITPOE part 1 + 2 are some of the best material they've put out in their entire career IMO.
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:40
My fault, yes Paul (something that starts with an N )..was just the sound engineer and helped with the mixing..but he did work as a producer on Rush's "Moving Pictures"-------------
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 23:46
Not true. |
Posted By: ~Rael~
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 00:29
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Its cool MisterProg. I apologize for the comments I made also. And I figured that is why there was no solo, because they didn't play a huge set, but a one minute thing would have been cool. And that is why I don't am weary of concerts with more than three bands. I would have loved to hear 3 play a bit more, and BTBAM. They played two songs, haha. And an hour of Opeth wasn't nearly enough. Can't wait to see them again.
I can't remember where the Myung solo was, but I don't think it was in The Dance of Eternity (or that section of thier medley) because I remember it taking my by surprise. Of course, they played some songs I haven't heard (don't have all thier CDs.) ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . . |
Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 11:39
Hmm, Myung certainly doesn't solo much and I have all their albums.. Maybe it was on the Images and Words track Metropolis Pt. 1. Do you own that album? -------------
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 19:12
that's one of the reasons I didn't like the idea of Prognation as much as I originally did I'd much rather see the bands play their own concerts for longer -------------
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 19:22
You are behaving like a troll. You claim you were a "huge DT fan" A "huge DT fan" even one who no longer felt the same about the band would never say the things about DT that you did. Thread moved. Closed and warning sent. |