Most representative prog track

i think that prog is so wide to hear it in one song, but  if you want to know a little bit, choose randomlly any record of king Crimson or Van der graaf Generator

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Peter Rideout wrote:  But we can fight this with good music, and by reading to our children, as well as for our own pleasure.  Try turning the darned television (and computer) off sometimes, folks!

But... but... but PETER!

I read for pleasure ON my computer screen.  In part. 

How else could I keep up on all the wonderful information about ninja wolverines, attack wombats and beavers no longer involved in radio??????????

Marcelo wrote: I tried to explain when music plays, but at the third minute (it doesn't matter Genesis, Yes, or any prog gem) the reaction is the same: "Nice, but I'm boring"

What I usually get is not 'when is his going to finish?'. I'm usually said: 'When is this going to start?' . The lenghth might put off people at first, but you can explain some themes in form of suite: I've done so with, for example, Tubular Bells: imagine there's a silence every time it seems to change the melody/style or so and that's it. But, when they came to really listening to this music, they really have no patience for it to develop, no patience for build up. It's as if they waited EVERY movie to start and develop as, let's say, Die Hard 3 (non-stop action and the main theme stablished from minute one).

I'll go along with this session for prog starters:

1.- In the Cage - Genesis

2.- Dogs - Pink Floyd

3.- Incubus - Marillion

4.- Otto Pankrock - Grobschnitt

5.- Cliche - Fish

and just that to get him/her hooked up on progressive rock music!  haha

Marcelo wrote: I tried to explain when music plays, but at the third minute (it doesn't matter Genesis, Yes, or any prog gem) the reaction is the same: "Nice, but I'm boring"

because they expect the song to be over  it's not their beloved 'fast-food-music'

"The Knots" by GENTLE GIANT would probably scare him ... but as a technical point of view it is a GOOD representation of what PROG MUSIC is all about

I would go in a 5 steps progression (slowly but surely):

1. Symphonic Prog 70s (YES or GENESIS)
2. NEO PROG SYMPHONIC (MARILLION, IQ)
3. Symphonic Prog mid and late 70s (VAN DER GRAAF, Gentle Giant, UK)
4. Italian Prog (BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO, LOCANDA DELLE FATE)
5. Actual Prog (Anglagard, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree)
6. maybe MAGMA

While listening, I would talk to him (or her) about the evolution of the genre  !

What do you think ?

Jim Garten wrote: Yeeeeeeeeeesssssss, but UK in later incarnations were without guitars (I think) with the lineup of Wetton/Bozzio/Jobson.

that's right...but 'Mental Medication' is with Holdsworth and that's why I love it

I meant the fact that VdGG uses the saxophone instead of the guitar and thats (IMO) unusual for symphonic prog and the symphonic is the most representative one I think...

but by the way, 'a plague of lighthouse keepers' is AWESOME!!!

Hmmm... maybe 'Mental Medication' by U.K.

but I think that the ones named by Jim Garten are good ones...maybe we leave VdGG out because they don't use Guitars (O.k. Fripp appears here and there) and use a Saxophone instead, not really representative for Prog bands (IMO!!!)

Something from the bigger bands, I geuss.

Yes - Yours is no disgrace

Rush - Xanadu

Pink Floyd - Shine on

Genesis - The Musical box

I've done it recently, with the Locanda Della Fate song 'Force le Luciolle...'. Although it would depend on wich friend I'm talking to. For example, there's no doubt I would be Renaissance  (maybe 'A song for all seasons') or Mostly Autumn ('Shrinking Violet' probably) if the friend is a woman.

Although it's better to try to convince them using their own experiences. Does he like the Beatles?, play 'A day in the Life'. Does he like Dire Straits?, play Telegraph Road. Is he/she a Queen fan?, then Bohemian Rhapsody can do it. Does he like Justin Timberlake? Oooopssss!