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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 10 2007 at 04:58 |
Jimbo wrote:
You can't be serious.
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Of course I know that most kids won't believe in magic or witchcraft simply from reading Harry Potter - but the combination of Harry Potter books, Harry Potter merchandising and the various fantasy TV series (Buffy, Charmed, Monsters, Ghost Whisperer, Medium etc) might cause young people to loose their touch for reality ... all these series are blending the fantasy elements with the real world, and *that* is what I don't like about them.
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Man Erg
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Posted: June 10 2007 at 04:16 |
Is he any relation to Nic Potter of VdGG ?
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Jimbo
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Posted: June 10 2007 at 04:11 |
You can't be serious.
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JayDee
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Posted: June 10 2007 at 02:00 |
Hairy, What?!?
No love for Harry Potter here.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: June 10 2007 at 01:54 |
Ghandi 2 wrote:
Chicapah wrote:
What I love most about the series is that EVERY major publisher passed on her book just like EVERY major record label passed on the Beatles and absolutely no one thought Van Gogh could paint. Just goes to show that the suits in charge have no idea what the public will clamor for. Rowling is a fine writer with an unfettered imagination and she has stuck to her guns and proven all the experts wrong. Bravo. |
Actually, I heard she has a crack team of editors that turn her bad writing with good ideas into decent writing. I'm not sure how true that is, however (probably not very, but it would explain why everyone passed on her).
I stopped at 3, and I would never read another one, but I vote other because it's good that kids are reading something. |
My daughter went from reading Potter to borrowing all kinds of my books like The Lord of the Rings trilogy.Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever,etc.
So those books pointed her in the right direction at least.
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: June 09 2007 at 21:34 |
Chicapah wrote:
What I love most about the series is that EVERY major publisher passed on her book just like EVERY major record label passed on the Beatles and absolutely no one thought Van Gogh could paint. Just goes to show that the suits in charge have no idea what the public will clamor for. Rowling is a fine writer with an unfettered imagination and she has stuck to her guns and proven all the experts wrong. Bravo. |
Actually, I heard she has a crack team of editors that turn her bad writing with good ideas into decent writing. I'm not sure how true that is, however (probably not very, but it would explain why everyone passed on her).
I stopped at 3, and I would never read another one, but I vote other because it's good that kids are reading something.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 09 2007 at 19:16 |
mystic fred wrote:
anything that gets kids away from their pc's can't be all bad - JK Rowling has got them looking at books again...
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At the expense of making them believe in witchcraft ...
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Draconean
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Posted: June 09 2007 at 16:09 |
I just love it (and I don't feel guilty about it)!
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I'm running still,
I shall until,
one day I hope that I'll arrive
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thellama73
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Posted: June 09 2007 at 14:21 |
I personally love the series. I can understand not liking it if you have only read the first two book, however, because they are very simplistic and obviously written for children. From the third book on Rowling's writing has progressed by leaps and bounds, and now I think the books are rather too long and too dark for children. Book five has been my favorite so far.
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: June 09 2007 at 14:10 |
Chicapah wrote:
What I love most about the series is that EVERY major publisher passed on her book just like EVERY major record label passed on the Beatles and absolutely no one thought Van Gogh could paint. Just goes to show that the suits in charge have no idea what the public will clamor for. Rowling is a fine writer with an unfettered imagination and she has stuck to her guns and proven all the experts wrong. Bravo. |
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Kid-A
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Posted: June 09 2007 at 07:34 |
I absolutely love it, I started reading it before the hype (before it even ever went to America I believe) pretty much as soon as the first book came out here in England. Not so keen on the movies though. I'm 18 now, and I'm going to take a whole day to read it when it comes out this time (had the last two endings ruined for me) and I think when I read the last word of the last chapter it will symbolise the end of my childhood. I think I was about 8 when the first came out.
Don't forget, these books were for kids originally, but so many adults just started reading it. They even had to make an alternate adults cover about a year after it came out as adults were embarrassed reading a book with the childrens cover in public.
Here are some of my predictions for the new book: - don't read if you haven't read all the books
Snape is not evil (duh, it was Malfoy who had to kill Dumbledore, and Dumbledore only said to Snape 'please Snape, please' you just assumed as you were reading it he meant 'please Snape, no) I would be pretty suprised if Snape was the bad guy
Either Dudley or Aunt Petunia is a wizard/witch. Dumbledores quote to Petunia and Vernon ' You've neglected Harry, but you've neglected your other sun even more' which could be seen as Dudley been a wizard. And Rowling also hinted Petunia would have a big role.
I think Hagrid is going to end up being a hero in this, I'm not too sure about Neville, but obviously he's going to do something very important.
Edited by Kid-A - June 09 2007 at 08:56
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The Miracle
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 16:55 |
I used to like it, then I hit puberty 4th book was the last one I read, 5 years ago I think.
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stonebeard
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 10:45 |
Very good, but long recently.
I still love the first 3 books very much, the fourth is ok, and I haven't read any more.
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Chicapah
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 10:03 |
What I love most about the series is that EVERY major publisher passed on her book just like EVERY major record label passed on the Beatles and absolutely no one thought Van Gogh could paint. Just goes to show that the suits in charge have no idea what the public will clamor for. Rowling is a fine writer with an unfettered imagination and she has stuck to her guns and proven all the experts wrong. Bravo.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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Ricochet
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 09:53 |
I will go all the way to reading the septology, despite that I have come, in three years, to listen to an immense greater quality of literature and even fantasy. My relatives in the US (they send me original copies of the book ) actually think I'm still dedicated to Harry Potter, but I remember them I already read giants of literature. Let's see: HP I - 7/10 HP II - 5/10 HP III - 6/10 HP IV - 7/10 (probably my favorite) HP V - 5/10 HP VI - 5/10 to note is the fact that, by literature, the volumes are decreasingly low and have a simple style. nothing, thus, is fascinating beyond the fantasy and the good mood plot.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 09:38 |
Stop looking at the series from a high brow literary point of view,and recognize the books for what they are.A great set of books to introduce to kids to try to get them to read for pleasure.
My children read them to tatters,so what is so bad about that?
Personally,I think the books aren't bad.Good plot and pacing,great characters,etc.The prose isn't the best,but they were meant to be children's books.
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 09:29 |
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Dean
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 08:20 |
Other: It's only fun to read if you replace all occurances of the letter 'd' with a 'g'
try it yourself:
"Yes, yes. I thought I'd be seeing you soon. Harry Potter." It wasn't a question. "You have your mother's eyes. It seems only yesterday she was in here herself, buying her first wand. Ten and a quarter inches long, swishy, made of willow. Nice wand for charm work." "Your father, on the other hand, favored a mahogany wand. Eleven inches."
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mystic fred
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 08:14 |
anything that gets kids away from their pc's can't be all bad - JK Rowling has got them looking at books again...
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Prog Archives Tour Van
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Norbert
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 08:01 |
I 've read maybe a few pages from one of the volumes, and for me that was enough.
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