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Topic: Harry Potter
Posted By: Figglesnout
Subject: Harry Potter
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 22:48
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Personally, I think the franchise is ridiculously overhyped and not that good at all, although entertaining when you want a really quick read just for the hell of it...
Book 1: 4/10 Book 2: 6/10 Book 3: (apex) 7/10 Book 4: 4/10 Book 5: 2/10 Book 6: 6/10 we'll see...but overall i think it's rather a waste of time... especially compared to REAL fantasy like A Song of ICe and Fire  ------------- I'm a reasonable man, get off my case |
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 22:52
I started reading it a long time ago before the hype blew up and I want to finish the series. It is way overhyped (have you seen the fan fic?  ) Overall, it's a good read I guess.-------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 23:28
| i stopped after the third i think. An now I hear there's 7 or 8 or something like that. I just don't care. |
Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 23:29
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They were good when I read them, I was really into the first three books but then just lost interest. Overhyped, yeah, but since it actually gets kids to read rather than watch TV, they deserve credit.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 02:59
| I read the first chapter of the first book and that was enough for me. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 06:55
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I read the first five books some years ago. I thought they were alright, good entertainment, but they didn't exactly leave a lasting impression on me. So, overhyped, but not too shabby, I suppose. ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 07:30
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It's tremendously overhyped ... and while I can understand why children love it, I fail to see what some grown up people see in it.
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 08:01
| I 've read maybe a few pages from one of the volumes, and for me that was enough. |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 08:14
anything that gets kids away from their pc's can't be all bad - JK Rowling has got them looking at books again...
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 08:20
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Other: It's only fun to read if you replace all occurances of the letter 'd' with a 'g'
try it yourself:
"Yes, yes. I thought I'd be seeing you soon. Harry Potter." It wasn't a question. "You have your mother's eyes. It seems only yesterday she was in here herself, buying her first wand. Ten and a quarter inches long, swishy, made of willow. Nice wand for charm work."
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 09:29
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 09:38
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Stop looking at the series from a high brow literary point of view,and recognize the books for what they are.A great set of books to introduce to kids to try to get them to read for pleasure.
My children read them to tatters,so what is so bad about that?
Personally,I think the books aren't bad.Good plot and pacing,great characters,etc.The prose isn't the best,but they were meant to be children's books. -------------  |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 09:53
I will go all the way to reading the septology, despite that I have come, in three years, to listen to an immense greater quality of literature and even fantasy. My relatives in the US (they send me original copies of the book  ) actually think I'm still dedicated to Harry Potter, but I remember them I already read giants of literature. Let's see: HP I - 7/10 HP II - 5/10 HP III - 6/10 HP IV - 7/10 (probably my favorite) HP V - 5/10 HP VI - 5/10 to note is the fact that, by literature, the volumes are decreasingly low and have a simple style. nothing, thus, is fascinating beyond the fantasy and the good mood plot. ------------- 
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 10:03
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What I love most about the series is that EVERY major publisher passed on her book just like EVERY major record label passed on the Beatles and absolutely no one thought Van Gogh could paint. Just goes to show that the suits in charge have no idea what the public will clamor for. Rowling is a fine writer with an unfettered imagination and she has stuck to her guns and proven all the experts wrong. Bravo. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 10:45
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Very good, but long recently. I still love the first 3 books very much, the fourth is ok, and I haven't read any more. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 16:55
I used to like it, then I hit puberty 4th book was the last one I read, 5 years ago I think. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 07:34
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I absolutely love it, I started reading it before the hype (before it even ever went to America I believe) pretty much as soon as the first book came out here in England. Not so keen on the movies though. I'm 18 now, and I'm going to take a whole day to read it when it comes out this time (had the last two endings ruined for me) and I think when I read the last word of the last chapter it will symbolise the end of my childhood. I think I was about 8 when the first came out. Don't forget, these books were for kids originally, but so many adults just started reading it. They even had to make an alternate adults cover about a year after it came out as adults were embarrassed reading a book with the childrens cover in public.
Here are some of my predictions for the new book: - don't read if you haven't read all the books
Snape is not evil (duh, it was Malfoy who had to kill Dumbledore, and Dumbledore only said to Snape 'please Snape, please' you just assumed as you were reading it he meant 'please Snape, no) I would be pretty suprised if Snape was the bad guy
Either Dudley or Aunt Petunia is a wizard/witch. Dumbledores quote to Petunia and Vernon ' You've neglected Harry, but you've neglected your other sun even more' which could be seen as Dudley been a wizard. And Rowling also hinted Petunia would have a big role.
I think Hagrid is going to end up being a hero in this, I'm not too sure about Neville, but obviously he's going to do something very important. ------------- 
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Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 14:10
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Chicapah wrote:Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 14:21
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I personally love the series. I can understand not liking it if you have only read the first two book, however, because they are very simplistic and obviously written for children. From the third book on Rowling's writing has progressed by leaps and bounds, and now I think the books are rather too long and too dark for children. Book five has been my favorite so far.
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Posted By: Draconean
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 16:09
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I just love it (and I don't feel guilty about it)!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 19:16
At the expense of making them believe in witchcraft ...  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 21:34
Actually, I heard she has a crack team of editors that turn her bad writing with good ideas into decent writing. I'm not sure how true that is, however (probably not very, but it would explain why everyone passed on her).
I stopped at 3, and I would never read another one, but I vote other because it's good that kids are reading something.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 01:54
My daughter went from reading Potter to borrowing all kinds of my books like The Lord of the Rings trilogy.Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever,etc.
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 02:00
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Hairy, What?!? No love for Harry Potter here. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 04:11
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 04:16
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Is he any relation to Nic Potter of VdGG ? ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 04:58
Of course I know that most kids won't believe in magic or witchcraft simply from reading Harry Potter - but the combination of Harry Potter books, Harry Potter merchandising and the various fantasy TV series (Buffy, Charmed, Monsters, Ghost Whisperer, Medium etc) might cause young people to loose their touch for reality ... all these series are blending the fantasy elements with the real world, and *that* is what I don't like about them. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 05:17
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Play them some Black Sabbath.Or, see if Judas Priest can provide them with some demonic,subliminal messages. -------------
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 06:25
That's silly, there are loads of fantasy books out there anyway. It's like saying, I hope kids don't watch Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles, or they will believe in giant ninja turtles. I'd rather let my kids read about witches and wizards than I would have them playing shoot em' up computer games and seeing all the violence on movies.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 07:47
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Great books - they've also grown up with their readers; the first book introduces the main characters with a basic storyline... from there on, the series has grown more complex, and considerably darker in subject matter.
There's no shame for people of any age to be reading HP books & as Mystic Fred & The Progtologist stated earlier, anything which can get children interested in and used to actually reading a book cannot be all bad.
Predictions for the new book, eh??? I forsee the death of one of the main three characters - probably Ron Weasley, and most likely at the hands of a Malfoy - deliberately if by Malfoy senior, accidentally if by Malfoy junior (eg a spell cast in anger without understanding its true power), and then only after he has finally declared undying love for Hermione. As far as Hagrid is concerned, I think it will finally come out the he is actually a dwarf who is very clever with mirrors  ------------- 
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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 11:57
I'm hooked...
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 12:01
Rowling has stated that much-beloved characters will perish in the final chapter of the saga.
I actually think it will be Harry.I think to kill Voldemort once and for all he will have to sacrifice himself.I think it's his destiny. ------------- |
Posted By: Speesh
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 18:45
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Overhyped, just because of the fact that there's much better stuff out there. I know that and I'm not even a heavy reader. As for the series itself, I loved it in the beginning but I lost interest after reading the 5th book. Just got too depressing for me I guess.
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 18:50
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The books are okay but for me I can only read them once because the second time round I can remember what happens and so reading it becomes a chore. Which is why I've bought CDs where someone reads the book. (That's possibly worse than rereading...buying a CD so you can listen to someone read it) |
Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 16:21
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^Steven Fry reading them right? They're great. We used to listen to them in the car on our family holidays. -------------
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: June 13 2007 at 09:12
| I read the first four books a couple of years ago, but then I lost interest. I kind of grew out of it, I think. |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: June 13 2007 at 21:39
Which is why I think any attacks on them are misplaced. If you don't like them, don't read them: but at least be happy that they're reading and then might move on to something like LOTR. I think the magic argument is just silly: kids can tell fact from fantasy (I hope), and they know it's not real. Although the Occult section of Borders might tell them otherwise...
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 13 2007 at 23:22
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If kids read it I think its ok, its in some ways a good introduction for them to literature... what I dont understand is when people passed their 15th birthday still read it, I mean, my mother reads them
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 01:17
I read like the first ten pages and that was enough for me. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 03:48
I'm nearly 44 and I'm looking forward to reading the last instalment - whether a book is primarily aimed at a certain age group is irrelevant; if the book is well written, it can be enjoyed by anyone. -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 05:08
Agreed, I've recently read Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy - an excellent read and not "just a kid's book" ------------- What? |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 05:19
I bought those for my 10 year old niece for her birthday at her request.I must admit I was impressed.Not only at the books but at her precociousness. -------------
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Posted By: Psychedelia
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 06:44
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I think that these books are really fantastic. They are well written and imaginitive as well. Furthermore they have done a great service for childrens books both by pushing what they can do (note the Order of the Phoenix was over 700 pages long) and have really rejuvenated the sector.
How can you compare this series to the epic song of ice and fire which are adult books and also masterpieces. ------------- Another emotional suicide, overdosed on sentiment and pride |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 08:32
| They're pretty good, but I haven't read once in like 6-7 years. |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 15:16
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Way overhyped, but not bad. Philip Pullman's 'His Dark Materials' trilogy is much better when it comes to fantasy. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 16:37
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Yep, His Dark Materials is an excellent read and superior to HP in my opinion. It makes the reader think and question stuff. Not all the characters are simply good or bad, there is a depth to it that hopefully they will keep in the film http://www.goldencompassmovie.com/ - trailer here |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 17:37
Yeah, when I saw the trailer in the theater recently my jaw dropped! I am so pumped, even though it doesnt come out until december.  I did hear that they removed all direct references to God and the Church from the movie to make it "financially viable" in the US, and all references will be euphemisms directed through the Magesterium... ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 08:31
You mean like they changed the first Harry Potter movie title from '...The Philosophers Stone' to '...The Sorcerers Stone' in the US, as they were concerned about the use of the word "Philosopher"? Or the way they changed "The Madness Of George III" to "The Madness Of King George", in case they thought the original was a sequel... -------------
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 12:12
| The later books were terrible! Reading book five and on were an exercise of my willpower. |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 12:17
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I thought that I wouldn't like the story as much when I got older, but the story got a lot more interesting and complex. Wasn't bad at all. Good reading when you don't want to think too much about what you're reading.
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 12:27
For some of us, that's never. (But I do agree, and see your point.) |
Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 10:30
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Overhyped, But Not Too Shabby
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Posted By: cookieacquired
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 23:19
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Harry Potter died for your sins
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 23:26
I don't believe in your silly HP myth. |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 23:28
SPOILER ALERT
Yeah, he did. He had the last bit of evil (voldemort) inside of him and he had to die to completely rid the world of the evil Voldemort....only to be resurrected. ------------- <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 28 2007 at 23:34
you might want to make that bigger for people. People are known to be stupid. Yeah, I hated the ending. Found it totally....totally....EUGH! |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 15:31
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Love it!! Books are much better than the films ! ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: YesFan72
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 19:28
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I had a problem with the epilogue... Too expected. ------------- 
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Posted By: jetson
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 19:45
you can have a great time reading HP books, and an awful time watching HP movies ------------- 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 11:31
At least it pretty much closed the book (no pun intended) on the series; Rowling always said there'd only be 7 books, but can you imagine the temptation to write more, given the demand? Of the series, the only one I had any issues with was '...Phoenix'; always saw that one as a bit of a filler, not really moving the narrative on - having said that, I still enjoyed it & thoroughly enjoyed the film too.
Have to disagree I'm afraid; OK, Radcliffe/Watson/Grint aren't the greatest of acting talent the UK's ever seen, but so far the films have had the advantage of good directors, screenwriters who know what to cut or keep & a supporting cast of A-List actors more than able to raise what could have been sub-standard adaptations to good films in their own right. -------------
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 12:05
I have to take the flip side, Jim. I believe the casting has been superb (not only the A-list of Isaacs, Rickman, Thompson, etc.), but the kids as well. Everyone cast is exactly how I pictured them. I blame the weak points on the directors and screenwriters. If Watson and Grint look weak, it's because all of their character growth is cut from the film. Daniel Radcliffe is shaping up to be a great actor IMO (go back and watch Phoenix, and from what I hear Equus was quite good). The only great director was Cuaron, and he made Prisoner the best HP film despite the fact that it is so far the worst in terms of book adaptation. OOTP was far too streamlined for its own good (how the f**k did Yates think it was a good idea to make the longest book nearly the shortest film?), but it was highly enjoyable and that fight between Dumbledore and Voldemort was what I've wanted since the first film. |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 12:15
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I read the first book and gave up in the middle of the second. There were just to many things and names going on. On the other hand, the movies are excellent and very well done. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 05:47
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I read 3 o 4 books, but just to read something in English...
 (I read B.Jones's Diary for the same reason...
)But the Order of the Phoenix and the Deathly Hallows are not bad though
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 16:53
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 01:42
Bingo.
I don't think I even made it through the first chapter actually.
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 02:00
A) That's a dumb practice for any method of entertainment, be it books, film, or music B) The first three books are firmly for children, so of course it probably seems silly to you By Book 4 Rowling was managing to mix adult content with enough whims and accessibility to keep children reading. It seemed like each new novel kept up with my generation's aging. The final entry was really for teenagers at the youngest. Sure, the ending as predictable, but the same people who complain about this are the ones who dismiss it as a children's book. Lord of the Rings isn't for children, but everything turns out swimmingly there. The only member of the Fellowship who dies is the one that no one likes anyway. It only makes sense that Harry would win and live happily ever after; the poor boy has had to put up with s**t since birth. If you don't like it fine, but you can't expect people to take your opinion seriously when you stop ten minutes in. Hell, I sat through Love Beach just to see if it would get better. There's no way HP was that painful. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 15:23
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Harry potter?
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