Should Iron Maiden be classified as Prog-

I listened to Seventh Son again yesterday more closely and I'm sorry to say that it's definitely not a prog album IMO - not even a prog related album. Even the more progressive songs have extended non-prog parts, and these songs are a minority - the album is dominated by blatantly non-prog songs.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: I believe they are more than just Prog Related, aSeventh Son of a Seventh Son is far enough to include them, for God's sake, The Beatles never did any pure Prog but they were influential, Iron Maide is probably the most influential band for Prog Metal.   If it wasonly for Ryme of the Ancient Mariner, they woud deserve to be here, but they also have a whole bunch of Prog tracks.   But I'm not a Prog Metal Team Member neither i have premenstrual syndrome.     Iván

Wow, that doesn't sound like the Ivan I once knew. What happened to you?

I believe they are more than just Prog Related, aSeventh Son of a Seventh Son is far enough to include them, for God's sake, The Beatles never did any pure Prog but they were influential, Iron Maide is probably the most influential band for Prog Metal.

toolis wrote:      i don't see any progginess in any Iron Maiden track from their debut to Virtual XI... yes, Harris loves art rock and bands like Wishbone Ash and Camel but that's it... i don't see why a former NWOBHM band that serves heavy metal for almost 30 years now with few prog moments in a huge discography should be considered even prog related? and what would be the benefit of that, anyway?

Seventh Son of a Seventh Son was already progressive.

Trickster F. wrote: Joren wrote: Trickster F. wrote: Mercyful Fate are in no way Prog Metal, and the fact whether or not they are Prog-Related is a different question, and perhaps one difficult to answer. Proto-Prog-Metal?   I don't like the category "Proto-Prog-Metal", speaking honestly. Many bands who are considered that, surely influenced a great variety of metal genres, prog-metal included, but no matter how their influence is undeniable and can not be overlooked, they are very often only remotely close to the sound of Prog. Complexity, unusual time signatures, long songs, keyboards and above average technique are all traits often associated with prog, but each one separately and often even few at once doeth not a prog band maketh.

O well, they just sound proggy to me... but what do I know, I'm not a PMS.

We'll see... maybe they'll get added, and maybe not. But there's no stopping them for sure if Iron Maiden and Metallica are included. Any case, I'll live.

^ Agreed. Of course my suggestion implies that Mercyful Fate are not accepted in the archives.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Why can't we simply call those "progressive" Mercyful Fate albums "Complex Aggressive Metal"?

Joren wrote: Trickster F. wrote: Mercyful Fate are in no way Prog Metal, and the fact whether or not they are Prog-Related is a different question, and perhaps one difficult to answer. Proto-Prog-Metal?

Mercyful Fate are in no way Prog Metal, and the fact whether or not they are Prog-Related is a different question, and perhaps one difficult to answer. Even their most famous "progressive" albums Mellisa and Don't Break The Oath have quite intricate, unorthodox moments, that would later the extreme music scenes, however, are still full of quite basic Speed Metal with satanic lyrics. I also voted against their inclusion to the site, however, that had more to do with being in a team(the other two people also rejected the band, and I had mixed thoughts), rather than being biased or even having a strict opinion on their inclusion. I think MF are even more progressive than Iron Maiden and Metallica, but come on, we haven't even got My Dying Bride and Emperor as Prog-Related, and people still keep asking us to add bands with much lesser prog ingredients!

floydisgod wrote: Joren wrote: General remark: if Iron Maiden would be included, nobody could refuse the addition of Metallica, since they had a considerable influence on prog metal. And when both Iron Maiden AND Metallica are in, many more requests will follow. I actually agree that Iron Maiden might have enough reason to be here in prog related (and they're a great band, without question), but I wouldn't want ProgArchives to lose its focus: prog. You can say exactly the same thing about Queensryche and Iron Maiden.

Sorry, I'm not very familiar with Queensrÿche.