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oliverstoned wrote: For your information, here's the Mimesis 4 tuner, the best in the world for freq range, dynamic, soundstage, etc... It needs 24 hours to be warm!

24 hours warm up...um fantastic that isnt it.There you go reading your mags again.Im sorry but a DYNALAB tuner would piss on that.

arcer wrote: Karnevil9 wrote: arcer wrote: I'll take my Linn 'Condek' as Karn calls it over most every truntable I've heard and that includes an extremely expensive Clearaudio Reference which i didn't rate at all. The only turntable I've liked more was a Michell Gyrodeck. My pretty basic LP12 with a Sumiko Blue Point (which is MC and only cost about E300) sounds great. Put them through my musical fidelity XLPS and Myriad pre and powers and it sounds pretty damn good to me (though my speakers are rubbish - need something to sharpen the warmth of the Linn + Myriads)   Sorry arcer but i get very pissed off with the claims over the years that  the 'Condek' is the reference turntable to buy...No it is not at all,as i've mentioned Ivor Tiffentwitt had the market,press & dealers by the balls.The deck is absolutly no reference deck it's too coloured in sound.The 'Condek' now is nothing but an out dated design pinched from his fathers Ariston 'RD11' & Thorens 'TD150.These past upgrades he kept flogging were nothing but a con as are linn. I have in stock at the moment a Valhalla Linn Sondek with 'Ittock' & the same with an Alphason 'HR100S' fitted all serviced ready for the next foll purchaser,i find them both poor compared to a Pink triangle 'Anniversary' fitted with Helius 'Orion' & £700 Dynavector MC i'm presently listerning to. I would suggest you scrap the Musical Fidelity 'XLP'.The Myrads are ok but not brilliant.Just a run of the mill trendy company thought up by an EX-Arcam guy.I know this may hurt your feelings but there you go i'm sorry,i'm not saying this to wind you up but i have a feeling you've bought this kit over the years out reviews... What's your speakers?   Actually Karn, it doesn't hurt my feelings at all. Your thoughts are interesting and well informed. I didn't actually buy all the stuff I have based on reviews but on a combination of listening tests and price. I'd listened to a lot of amps in or around the two grand mark before opting for the Myryads and to my ears they just sounded the most natural, neutral and musical of all I'd heard. It was the same with the Linn (which is quite old and bought second hand). I bought it because it sounded better to my ears than most things I'd heard. I guess it's really horses for courses. For me the worst thing I've ever heard were some 8grand B&W Nautilus speakers being driven by Krells (I think) and can't remember what the cd player was. The sound (supposedly neutral and crystal clear accurate) was like having the top of your head sawn off. Harsh, painful and headache inducing. Too bright, too brittle, too much. I grant you, I am struggling a little with a surfeit of warmth at the moment and feel my system could do with some neutralising speakers, but I genuinely like the Linn/Myryads. The speakers are TDL RTL3s pretty old and very woolly in the bass. They're from my first 'proper' system and I've never had enough cash to upgrade - I've lsistened to a lot of speakers and so far haven't found 'the' ones I want. Closest so far are system audio 1280s which sound pretty cool and are in my sub 2 grand price range. I'd be interested in alternatives - to all the components. I have the XLP because I can't afford a high-end preamp and the MF does fine.

Um..You seem genuine enough.Yes flog the TDL's they have always had a wooley sound even from the previous company name which was IMF in the '70's.Both IMF & TDL based there designs around Transmission line,they did make a couple of bookshelf models but were crap.

I really don't know what to recommend as i feel Loudspeaker design & driver technology is going no place these days,the designs are sounding more shocking.

If you love the 'Condek' so much & possibly it's looks that pretty much attract you,why not try & find an old pair of Linn 'Isobarik' loudspaeakers.This is the omly Linn product that sounded good,Gut wrenching bass peformance from those KEF units...Really good.I had a pair for 10 years.

Egnore the cross over under the cabinet.

Radioactive Toy wrote: oliverstoned wrote: Radioactive Toy wrote: hey lets take an look at this.. yeah great teddy also! I've had to buy it all... trade etc... Nice bed! wanna have a go?

Yes Tidy your records up youg man

oliverstoned wrote: Radioactive Toy wrote: hey lets take an look at this.. yeah great teddy also! I've had to buy it all... trade etc... Nice bed!

wanna have a go?

oliverstoned wrote: ...and, btw, you have to have one electric line per device... With bigger diameter lines(4mm2) for amps It's essential.

Oliver

I never said the Yamaha had anything to do with the Marantz.How can it have Marantz were an American Company at the time i was just stating that the Marantz '10B' & Yami 'CT7000' were the best sounding tuners in the world.

Yes i' know the Counterpoint 5000...You've gotta be a prick to pay $3.500 for one although they sound great.

Regarding the cabling.Oliver either get you head out of those high end hi-fi mags or stay away from your friend cos it's doing you no favours.

I've been through all that when i was a little boy.The only thing that works is Russ Andrews (RATA) way in the UK for me.

BTW you lot in france getting all this high end gear imported in then.'YBA'(Yves Benard Andr'e) gear not any good for you?

I agree that Linn toaday is a bad brand, and their best LP12 are from 1978. Today, there are less good.
The only good product they have is the Cd player Ikemi, the rest is mostly crap and over rated, i agree.

About my friend, he has not been wash brained, he knows to think by himself and he's one of the biggest audiophiles of the world.
He has the best devices, like marantz 10b (the best tuner of the world),several Nakamichi 1000 zxl, he has real amps like Conrad jonhson for highs and the biggest goldmund for low freq.
The biggest Mark levinson preamp, 30 000 dollars Infinity spaekers and he biggest transparent cables which is the best brand for interconnect.(120 000 dollars, just for speakers cables ("Transparent OPUS")).
Also the best Levinson drive + convert which costs 30000 dollars...
I don't even know the brand of his turntable cause it's too esoteric.
The price of his cartridge is the price of your whole system!
The result is incredible...
Nothing like a naim system or your your homemade system !!!
Do you have electric dedicated lines?

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Regardless of what age the 'Condeks' are they are still overated tosh.

I may have mentioned over the past treads at sometime i run a buisness manufacturing vintage turntable surrounds/plinths as well as buy & sell specialised audio equipment.

I am lucky enough to change my system around on a regular basis if need be.

I actually own the Marantz 10B with the day sequera display gagetry as i do own the classic Yamaha 'CT7000' tuner as well. these two in my view were probably the greatest tuners in the world & i would never part with them even though i never use them.

& a have a Nak 1000 which is a new old stock unit.as well as one for repair.also a nice 'Dragon'.

But your now going into high end gear with the mark levinson etc...most of this is very overated & seems you ears may be mis judging yourself.I've shifted a few Levinsons & agreeable are very good but i personally own a Audio reaserch 'SP9' tube pre-amp & in my view probably the best pre i've ever heard.

I have a pair of Krell 'KSA100' power amp which are excellent but at the time over priced.

Forget about esotecric deck such as Goldmund etc most sound worse than the supposid best CD players in the world & your paying for the material involved in the construction.You usually find the high tag refects on that fact that they aint gonna sell many either.

Yes i have a dedicated Ring main in my listerning room.

I have 5 'Koetsu' , 2 Kesiki,2 Lyra's'& a top of the range Benz Moving coils amongs others.

So please don't try to impress me.It's not a bragging thread.

I'm fully aware of what is overated & what is not.

Over the years of dealing with custommers buying this type of gear is the higher majority have more money than sence & are born show off's.

Expensive = not brilliant most of the time.

only the very few are the buisness.

SP9

arcer wrote: I'll take my Linn 'Condek' as Karn calls it over most every truntable I've heard and that includes an extremely expensive Clearaudio Reference which i didn't rate at all. The only turntable I've liked more was a Michell Gyrodeck. My pretty basic LP12 with a Sumiko Blue Point (which is MC and only cost about E300) sounds great. Put them through my musical fidelity XLPS and Myriad pre and powers and it sounds pretty damn good to me (though my speakers are rubbish - need something to sharpen the warmth of the Linn + Myriads)

Sorry arcer but i get very pissed off with the claims over the years that  the 'Condek' is the reference turntable to buy...No it is not at all,as i've mentioned Ivor Tiffentwitt had the market,press & dealers by the balls.The deck is absolutly no reference deck it's too coloured in sound.The 'Condek' now is nothing but an out dated design pinched from his fathers Ariston 'RD11' & Thorens 'TD150.These past upgrades he kept flogging were nothing but a con as are linn.

I have in stock at the moment a Valhalla Linn Sondek with 'Ittock' & the same with an Alphason 'HR100S' fitted all serviced ready for the next foll purchaser,i find them both poor compared to a Pink triangle 'Anniversary' fitted with Helius 'Orion' & £700 Dynavector MC i'm presently listerning to.

I would suggest you scrap the Musical Fidelity 'XLP'.The Myrads are ok but not brilliant.Just a run of the mill trendy company thought up by an EX-Arcam guy.I know this may hurt your feelings but there you go i'm sorry,i'm not saying this to wind you up but i have a feeling you've bought this kit over the years out reviews...

What's your speakers?

oliverstoned wrote: ummagumma08 wrote: oliverstoned wrote: The Rega 3 is really better. Morever, the original cartridge ("super elyss") is a real good little cartridge.(unlike Denon DL103, for example, which is bad, despite it's famous). I went to my local used hi-fi store in Copenhagen today and asked if he had a Rega Planar 3, and that I wanted to trade with my Planar 2, he said that it would be stupid "they are identical" he said. He sells them for the same price 250 - 300 dollars approx. Now I'm confused....       <!-- Signature --> Dealers don't know what they tell. Rega3 is really better than rega2

Ok Oliver the 'P2' is better than the 'P3'!

Right the bigger RB300 arm sounds very grey over the cheaper 'RB250' ar,so thats not better arm for a start..The only difference between a Rega 'Planer2' & 'Planner3' is absolutly nothing,with exception to the 'P2' has a 3/4" chipboard plinth & the 'P3' a 1" chipboard plinth both formica laminated,'P2' has a slightly thinner Glass platter absolutly nothing else at all in difference,except from the obvious mounted arms.Everyone knows Glass sounds crap as a platter so to increase the thickness is no great brain wave.

Stop talking crap oliver.