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walrus333 
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If used sparengly it can be great, however if you are say Yngwie Malmsteen who feels the need to play at 200 miles per hour every second it can grow old fast.
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If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks!
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Bj-1
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:52 |
Some awesome, some awful. Depends on which band!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Padraic
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:25 |
Sometimes I find shredding accompanied by rapid fire double pedal work
(as you'll find in most speed/thrash metal) to be cathartic in a
way. Maybe I have some underlying aggression to work out or
something... 
I have various moods in which I like different types of music,
sometimes soft, gentle acoustic stuff or lighter poppier sound
works...but sometimes I just need a band to kick some A. Ergo
metal.
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micky
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:50 |
 sbrushfan wrote:
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me, in prog metal, all i hear is people playing overly fast guitar
solos with the same 32nd and 64th note rhythms the entire time. That was certainly a by-product of 80's shred.  I
don't not like them (i actually love a great speed solo (see John
Petrucci), it's just that they are so repetitive that i can't tell them
apart. That's why people like C.C. DeVille were hated on so much in the 80's. HAH!!!
Poison/DeVille were quite popular back then... time hasn't been kind to
that group or really any group of that ilk. He's hated (not respected
is the better term) today.. not back then. Shred is fine; just inject some emotion into the playing. Personally
I find shredding boring as hell but it is purely technical isn't it...
is there any place for.... emotion in it. To make an anology we
can all relate to.... shredding is to music as a 'quickie' is to sex.  I
just wish that guitarists would incorperate more chops and rhythms into
their solos like they used to (Yes, Rush, Zappa, King Crimson) and then
maybe throw in a few speed solos. Has Alex Lifeson EVER done a
speed solo? That I recall...no, and I've owned, listened to and
enjoyed (almost) every one of them. He told GUITAR WORLD that he
considers himself more of a rhythm player than anything else. I agree and can't recall one either.... To me, skill isn't how fast you can play. True,
to a point. With certain types of music (doesn't all have to be
rock), though, you NEED some speed to navigate not only chord changes,
but string-skipping and things like that. Even blues guitarists
like Johnny Winter and Stevie Ray Vaughan were pretty speedy, but no
one would DARE to say they were "shredders" or that they "lacked
emotion".
Just a thought.
and a good post!
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Drew
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:32 |
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sbrushfan
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:26 |
To me, in prog metal, all i hear is people playing overly fast guitar solos with the same 32nd and 64th note rhythms the entire time. That was certainly a by-product of 80's shred. I don't not like them (i actually love a great speed solo (see John Petrucci), it's just that they are so repetitive that i can't tell them apart. That's why people like C.C. DeVille were hated on so much in the 80's. Shred is fine; just inject some emotion into the playing. I just wish that guitarists would incorperate more chops and rhythms into their solos like they used to (Yes, Rush, Zappa, King Crimson) and then maybe throw in a few speed solos. Has Alex Lifeson EVER done a speed solo? That I recall...no, and I've owned, listened to and enjoyed (almost) every one of them. He told GUITAR WORLD that he considers himself more of a rhythm player than anything else. To me, skill isn't how fast you can play. True, to a point. With certain types of music (doesn't all have to be rock), though, you NEED some speed to navigate not only chord changes, but string-skipping and things like that. Even blues guitarists like Johnny Winter and Stevie Ray Vaughan were pretty speedy, but no one would DARE to say they were "shredders" or that they "lacked emotion".
Just a thought.
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Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced...
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The Miracle
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:19 |
If you mean solos like Maiden, Metallica or Megadeth - awesome!
All the brutal death/black metal sounds all the same to me though
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Rushatlantic
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:12 |
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To me, in prog metal, all i hear is people playing overly fast guitar solos with the same 32nd and 64th note rhythms the entire time. I don't not like them (i actually love a great speed solo (see John Petrucci), it's just that they are so repetative that i can't tell them apart. I just wish that guitarists would incourperate more chops and rhythms into their solos like they used to (Yes, Rush, Zappa, King Crimson) and then maybe throw in a few speed solos. To me, skill isn't how fast you can play.
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