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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:41

The one song for me that would sum up prog really well  is `Heart Of The Sunrise.' This is one track that is alternately gorgeous and frenetic. Yet within the frenzied parts, the musicianship is quite controlled.The soft passages of `Love comes to you' are anice contrast to the blazing guitar riff by Mr. Howe. And Bruford`s drums are controlled ,yet dynamic. As good as Alan White is,he has never been able to better Bruford`s playing on this track, especially with all the paradiddles Bruford undergoes. Squire`s bas splaying is exemplary , Wakeamn`s mellotron is ethereal and atmospheric, and this is one of Jon Anderson`s best vocal performaces. He`s very low key on the first few verses, and on the last verse,his vocal performance simply soars like clouds above the heavens.. Wonderful track. If someone were to ask me what prog is about, I wouldn`t say a word and point that person in the direction of listening to this..



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:29
Echos by Pink Floyd.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 15:12

If I HAD TO pick one, it would be

KNOTS

by Gentle Giant

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 15:08
Prog is to diverse to be defined by one song. But I always considered In the Court of the Crimson King as an Archetypical prog song 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:31
I don't think you can define a whole genre through a single song. Anyway, if I were to choose, I'd pick KC's Epitaph - at least as far as symphonic prog is concerned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 09:35
Another suggestion: you play "YMCA" by Village People. Then you play anything else. whatever you play next will sound prog
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 09:30
Originally posted by rockandrail rockandrail wrote:

Why not going back to the source and play "In The Court of The Crimson King" side one?



I agree to an extent...it seems a Medley or a series of extracts set up as a suite would work better to convey the overall mindset of the format. Something to allow for multiple songs within one...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 09:05
Originally posted by Losendos Losendos wrote:

 

  Gates of Delirium

 It is meant to be definitive rather than easily understood by the uninitiated


To me, that smacks a bit of "prog-elite"!  I think it's a great track but it is an acquired taste and I don't think it's particularly representative.
I also have memories of playing it in 6th form school common room and boy, did it bomb. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:43

Why not going back to the source and play "In The Court of The Crimson King" side one?

1) 21st Century Schizoid Man

Starts with weird whispered noise, then suddenly explodes in a mix of jazz, rock and pionnering electronic effects to finish in a delirium of sounds. Rythm changes are frequent and unexpected.

2) I talked to the Wind

From furor to accoustic gentleness, from distorted guitars and saxes to aerial flute and typical "prog" countertime drumming, merging into

3) Epitaph

Prototypical symphonico-mellotronic epic

That's all prog, for sure

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:29

 

  Gates of Delirium

 It is meant to be definitive rather than easily understood by the uninitiated

How wonderful to be so profound
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:09

Originally posted by Phil Phil wrote:

Can't give one song that defines prog (although if pushed CTTE might be the nearest thing...). Can maybe give a song that is a good example of prog.
 On that basis I'd suggest something like: Heart of the Sunrise, Firth of Fifth, or maybe Starless.

Assuming the audience is not familiar with prog the suggestion of "Gates of Delirium" is a bit risky.....

Gates of Delerium is ONLY for those well seasoned in prog!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:04
Can't give one song that defines prog (although if pushed CTTE might be the nearest thing...). Can maybe give a song that is a good example of prog.
 On that basis I'd suggest something like: Heart of the Sunrise, Firth of Fifth, or maybe Starless.

Assuming the audience is not familiar with prog the suggestion of "Gates of Delirium" is a bit risky.....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2005 at 04:49
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

  1. Must be classical influenced
  2. Must have drastic changes
  3. Must have virtuoso performances
  4. Must be Original
  5. Better if an epic.

That's Igor Stravinsky's Rite of Spring or Firebird then.

Oh, btw, does it have to be "rock"..?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2005 at 23:59
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

There is no one song that defines prog

true... Prog is too diverse to be defined by one song OMO.

For example, Supper's Ready doesn't define RIO, while both are equally prog.



Thats exactly what I meant, I mean we can't say that one Dream Theater or Yes song can define a whole, wide-spread genre.  If we did that, then we would leave out all of the Canterbury, Zheul, Krautrock, et al....genres.  One song can not some up a diversified genre as prog, like you said.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2005 at 23:40

Originally posted by theBox theBox wrote:

Don't forget that Gates Of Delerium easily defines prog!!!! From genesis I would say can-utility and the coastliners (everything that makes genesis a great band, in a nutshell)

I agree Gates is it for me, from sound effects, acoustic parts, electric/synth parts, fast slow.

I suppose awaken is another one like this.

Karn Evil 9 is my other choice

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2005 at 23:30

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

There is no one song that defines prog

true... Prog is too diverse to be defined by one song OMO.

For example, Supper's Ready doesn't define RIO, while both are equally prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2005 at 23:30
Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:


STAGNATION


Lost Chord has it- if you can define progressive music it is no longer progressive. Thankfully it is still progressing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2005 at 23:20
Close To The Edge by Yes is thee definitive progressive rock song. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2005 at 23:04

I think Supper Ready is the sum of all prog even though it does not have the moog in it
after that it would have to be Tarkus, or maybe even Echoes


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2005 at 23:00
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