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Poll Question: Three votes please!
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Because the Night is a great, great song, and believe it or not, I didn't know it was co-written by Springsteen and also performed by him live. This was always filed under Patti Smith in my book.


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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

*Wax Doll is fine as my choice of nomination...sorry on the delay...was sidetracked.*

Nobody has to apologise for having a life of course. Smile

OK, we're ready to vote then!
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Re Snicolette and Was not Was: Sweet Pea Atkinson was (is) a remarkable vocalist.
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*Wax Doll is fine as my choice of nomination...sorry on the delay...was sidetracked.*
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:



Lewian:  Spliff “Glaspalast”  I like the sound of this one, sproingy sounds and sonic flourishes, it makes for a very interesting listen, draws me in and keeps me there (even though I don’t understand the lyrics).  Keyboard hits and some washes come in, I really am liking what I’m hearing, though I can’t quite seem to describe it, in my usual fashion.  Joachim Witt “Herberfsvater” More sort of robotic-sounding music here, with a sort of talking vocal.  Pretty much repeats itself, with some shimmery keys here and there.   Not really my favourite kind of thing, it sounds too much like a military-type march to me.  But could just be showing my ignorance there, as I know you know your stuff!  C Cat Trance “They Made Them Up”  Now this one, I’ve been looking forward to hearing.  Begins promisingly with saz and  maybe some oud as well.  Then shifts into a real Arabic sounding beat. Not really melodic on the vocals, but it suits the modern-Arabic sound to this.  I really like the music, not as sold on the vocals.


Thanks for your as always thoughtful comments! The Herbergsvater is surely not everyone's cup of tea and at the end it all boils down to taste. I have a thing for monotonous rhythms and this one is played by Can's Jaki Liebezeit who basically hypnotises me into liking everything with his drums on it. Seriously, I think Witt showcases his crazy side well here, one can criticise that many things are missing that good music needs, but this is like no other thing, like it or not.

I was tempted to finally nominate Spliff after the nice comments by suitkees and you - went for Fehlfarben anyway because as much as I like the "Glaspalast", the Fehlfarben track has played more of a role in my life, basically opening the world of German post punk for me, and later being connected to a story in my life.

I agree with you that the voice is not the strongest aspect of C Cat Trance.
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I haven't heard from dr wu23; hope he is fine. I put the first suggestion of his in the poll, but I'm happy to change that if he wants something else.

Otherwise I think we're complete (please tell me if I forgot something) and ready to vote, except if you want you may wait a day or so for dr wu's confirmation.
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So sort of absurdist, perhaps...Very cultured, the juxtaposition.
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

This is the one I listened to, Lorenzo, in case anyone else has trouble with the one you posted.  

This one has that 80's light synth-pop sound to me, very representative of the era.  Thank you!


Battiato was able to write songs with very cultured but meaningless lyrics 

alternating with choruses with a moral imperative:

Lyrics:
An old Breton woman with a hat and a rice paper and bamboo cane umbrella, 

Brave captains, crafty Macedonian smugglers, 

Euclidean Jesuits, dressed like bonzes to enter the court of the emperors of the Ming dynasty ... Big smileBig smileBig smile


CHORUS
I seek a center of gravity permanent that never make me change my mind about things and people....
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the 1980's
(fourth part)

In 1985 I discovered Bruce Springsteen.

Born in the Usa had been released the year before, and had entered the Italian charts, but without fanfare. On June 21, 1985, Bruce arrived at the Milan stadium, and gave a concert like never before, lasting four hours. It can be considered the third great Milan concert after Bob Marley's in 1980 and Dylan's in 1984. In all three cases it was the first time that these great stars came to Italy.

But the Bruce Springsteen concert produces a kind of delirium. The music magazine Mucchio Selvaggio, after that concert, becomes almost a fanzine of the Boss. Some of its authors had already seen Bruce in 1981 in Switzerland, during the tour of The River, and were struck by it. But after 1985 Bruce acquires global fame, and establishes a particular feeling with Italy (he will declare that the Italian and Spanish public are the hottest ones). After all, his mother is Italian.

On TV there is the first music broadcast led by a certain Red Ronnie, who poses as a rock and roll artist (the show is called Be Bop a Lula) who makes a special of that concert. A boy had gone up on stage to hug Bruce while he was playing, basically belting him with his arms for a few seconds, the security men arrive and carry him away. People said that backstage they beat him up. Red Ronnie interviews him, he says they beat him up, Ronnie tries to make a scoop in the name of "Springsteen's bodyguards beat the fans who go on stage" but the boy displaces him saying that it was great to hug him , and would do it again a hundred times.

Boss-mania is born. Seeing Bruce with the scarf, the clenched fist, the denim jacket singing Born in the USA out loud makes me stunned.

And finally I buy my first original music tape, Born in the Usa, and I listen to the songs by translating the lyrics. I discover a new world. Born in the USA's lyrics hit me in the heart. Then I buy Nebraska, Bruce's acoustic folk album, and I wonder if it's by the same artist: I don't recognize him, and the rustle of the production (Nebraska is a demo) makes me think it's a ruined tape. Then I continue, in the years to come, to go back until the debut Greetings from Asbury Park. But I have to wait until 1988 to go see Springsteen in concert. 




In Italy 1985 is an year full of news but at no.1 of the charts there is a melodic songwriter called Claudio Baglioni: the females follow him, the males follows Springsteen.




- to be continued


Edited by jamesbaldwin - February 22 2021 at 18:46
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This is the one I listened to, Lorenzo, in case anyone else has trouble with the one you posted.  

This one has that 80's light synth-pop sound to me, very representative of the era.  Thank you!
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Thank you, Lorenzo!
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

The 1080's
(second part)

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Lorenzo, I can't view this one and the title etc don't show up to give me an idea where to look.  Can you let us know the title and artist so we can find another?  Thanks!  Loving your story, btw


The song is "Centro di Gravità Permanente" by Franco Battiato
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It doesn't really matter which one I choose as I don't expect any votes for them, but Bitter Suite Alley is the best of the bunch so let's go with that one.
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And final first-through listens etc with Lewian's additions up first:

Lewian:  Spliff “Glaspalast”  I like the sound of this one, sproingy sounds and sonic flourishes, it makes for a very interesting listen, draws me in and keeps me there (even though I don’t understand the lyrics).  Keyboard hits and some washes come in, I really am liking what I’m hearing, though I can’t quite seem to describe it, in my usual fashion.  Joachim Witt “Herberfsvater” More sort of robotic-sounding music here, with a sort of talking vocal.  Pretty much repeats itself, with some shimmery keys here and there.   Not really my favourite kind of thing, it sounds too much like a military-type march to me.  But could just be showing my ignorance there, as I know you know your stuff!  C Cat Trance “They Made Them Up”  Now this one, I’ve been looking forward to hearing.  Begins promisingly with saz and  maybe some oud as well.  Then shifts into a real Arabic sounding beat. Not really melodic on the vocals, but it suits the modern-Arabic sound to this.  I really like the music, not as sold on the vocals.

Easy Money:  Dead Kennedys “Holiday in Cambodia”  I certainly remember this band, there were so much really darkly hilarious punk band names.….and I worked in a used record store in Santa Cruz when this came out.  Driving beat, simple chords and lead, typical punk vocals of the time.  Very representative of this genre, tons of angst and likely, spitting.  Help, they hate my stereo!  LOL

Interlude:  Lorenzo’s Musical Story : Maria Callas “Amami Alfredo”  So interesting to have a peek at life in another country during a time I remember well in a very different country.  And I can see elements of how this shaped your musical viewpoint, it is very educated, yet also emotional.  I love that you’ve interspersed telling your story with a piece of music representative.  This one, of course, is just beautiful.

Dr wu23:  Robyn Hitchcock “Wax Doll” Very much a cult favourite, although I know his name haven’t really heard much (that I realized at the time, anyway….where the heck was I?).  Singer/songwriter with band style, thoughtful lyrics, with heavy British accent.  I like the slidy strings that come in, lovely production that lets his words come to the fore.  I will have to check out more of his extensive catalogue, thank you for the intro.  Steve Earle “Copperhead Road”This one I quite remember, my friend, Jano Brindisi, that I brought to these polls a couple of times, loves Steve Earle and this was a big hit.  Singer/songwriter in a more Americana style, although I can’t remember if they called it that, then.  More stellar storytelling with a song that steadily builds to it’s climax, with about equal nods to rock and country, and even a bagpipe drone sound in there.  Graham Parker “Get Started, Start a Fire” I do remember this as well, kind of the more soulful sound portion of 80’s music, which I really enjoyed.  He’s got a very distinctive voice, there’s some cool weeeegly guitars bouncing around and then a great more straight-ahead lead mid-song.  Spare production, very infectious tune, no wonder it was a hit.  

Interlude:  Lorenzo’s Musical Story :  Big, big Beatles fan here, too, of course….soundtracks of my life, too….and Simon and Garfunkel.  I really enjoyed this Bronski Beat song, back in the day, another very distinctive singer, I really also liked their cover of “It Ain’t Necessarily So.”  They got played a lot on KROQ in Los Angeles along with Depeche Mode and the like when I was once again living there, back in 1985 (and left again in 1992).



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Oh, I actually had this earmarked as a potential top contender for me, Cristi...  I was just laughing at the term, not at all your selection.  I liked the dark edge to it, so it resonated for me.  Smile
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Continuing from where I left.

Cristi
Casual Affairs - "Emotional Man": Guitar with chorus effect, synthesizers and gated drums. The vocals are clearly inspired by David Bowie. I like this song a lot. Jean Beauvoir - "Missing the Young Days" contains a drumbeat typical of its time. Once again there's a lot of synth, but no chorus guitar. Not a bad song, but not something I would normally listen to. The guitar solos, like many others of the 80's is a bit over the top. But it's not without edge. But I like the first one a lot better. Night Ranger - "Love Is Standing Near" screams hair metal to me (or as we call it in Scandinavia: poodle rock). 

Edited for space.....    LOL   "poodle rock"  Lots of people loved it, obviously, just laughing at the term, hadn't heard it.  

Night Ranger were not hair metal, but melodic hard rock. I chose this particular song because it's a favorite NR song, especially for the guitar solo who it seems did not impress anyone here. LOL 
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Continuing from where I left.

Cristi
Casual Affairs - "Emotional Man": Guitar with chorus effect, synthesizers and gated drums. The vocals are clearly inspired by David Bowie. I like this song a lot. Jean Beauvoir - "Missing the Young Days" contains a drumbeat typical of its time. Once again there's a lot of synth, but no chorus guitar. Not a bad song, but not something I would normally listen to. The guitar solos, like many others of the 80's is a bit over the top. But it's not without edge. But I like the first one a lot better. Night Ranger - "Love Is Standing Near" screams hair metal to me (or as we call it in Scandinavia: poodle rock). 

Edited for space.....    LOL   "poodle rock"  Lots of people loved it, obviously, just laughing at the term, hadn't heard it.  
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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

  

Anyway, after all of that, I am going to nominate Lloyd Cole and the Commotions "Forest Fire".



Sorry Lewian.  This was buried in my last message so it probably didn't get seen with all my other blabbering going on.

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Nominee: Boiled in Lead, "The Microorganism"
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