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Poll Question: Vote for three options (three duos) and mention those in a post,
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^ added to my original post. Thanks again.
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*

[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.



Nickie, can you please share Netta's Toy here, if it (the video you watched) is from a linkable source, so that I can add it to my original post?
This is all I could find and you did say that it wasn't the full one you'd entered.  But here it is, at least one can get an idea, I think, if nothing else will work.  I had to resort only to this one, for my own summation.



Thank you. This is the semi-final + final performance together (I don't know how they handled the audial differences BTW) but better than nothing. Big smile


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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*

[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.



Nickie, can you please share Netta's Toy here, if it (the video you watched) is from a linkable source, so that I can add it to my original post?
This is all I could find and he did say that it wasn't the full one he'd entered.  But here it is, at least you can get an idea, I think, if nothing else will work for you.  I had to resort only to this one, for my own summation.



Thank you. This is the semi-final + final performance together (I don't know how they handled the audial differences BTW) but better than nothing. Big smile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:17
Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*

[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.



Nickie, can you please share Netta's Toy here, if it (the video you watched) is from a linkable source, so that I can add it to my original post?
This is all I could find and he did say that it wasn't the full one he'd entered.  But here it is, at least you can get an idea, I think, if nothing else will work for you.  I had to resort only to this one, for my own summation.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*

[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.



Nickie, can you please share Netta's Toy here, if it (the video you watched) is from a linkable source, so that I can add it to my original post?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2021 at 11:52
Here are my first thoughts on your secondary option, Logan, and also on your entry, Cristi's.

Logan (alternate pairing):  Gilbert O’Sullivan “Alone Again Naturally”  I remember this one well from when it was a hit in the US.  Kind of a wry self-deprecating song, most of us probably can relate!  B 52’s “Love Shack”  And I also know this one.  I actually love the dissonant harmonies of the women singers in this band, they were very amusing and also that is very hard to sing like that.  Lots of fun

Cristi:  Place Vendome “Streets of Fire”  The piece begins with some very pretty piano, then full-on onslaught of a very rocking band.  Has a feeling of grandness in the music.  Very competent male rock vocalist sings a song of fighting for survival in a war-like setting.  Helloween “Longing” Acoustic guitar strumming and mournful lyrics are sung by another powerful vocalist.  Nice, strings provide a bolster and interest to the piece.  I think this is my favourite that I’ve heard from you, Cristi and they are both very different from each other.  Well done! 


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These are the options listed (quotation marks removed as it is causing an error)

"Lipstick to Void" & "Disney Town"
"What If We" & "Toy"
"Carolyn" & "Strange New World"
"Grateful When You're Dead / Jerry..." & "Sir Psycho Sexy"
"The Cynic" & "The Push"
"Algebra of the Sky" & "Adnos I-III"
"You Ain't Alone" & "My Mother is Not the White Dove"
"No Myth" & "Hearts Ease"
"Prometheus" & "Nihil Strength"
"Kottos" & "Elevation"
"Streets of Fire" & "Longing"

Okay, thought there might be another addition, but I don't think so now, so the poll is open to voting.

Edited by Logan - January 25 2021 at 11:18
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The list:

- Logan: Mica Levi's "Lipstick to Void" & Mono's "Disney Town"

- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*

[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.



I do see that Geo found another and has it in the cuurent playlist (and Nickie earlier).

- nick_h_nz: As said, if you wish to nominate specific ones from Asian Death Crustacean and Olkhon, I, like Nicky, am fine with bandcamp(we would want to direct link to the specific songs). If you wish to and see this, I can add those to the end of the list later today (was going to post about this last night but the site went down),

- jamesbaldwin: Steve Wynn's "Carolyn" & "Strange New World"

- I prophesy disaster: Kula Shaker's "Grateful When You're Dead / Jerry Was There" & Red Hot Chili Peppers's "Sir Psycho Sexy"

- The Anders: Kashmir 's "The Cynic" & "The Push"

- Lewian: Langham Research Centre's "Algebra of the Sky" & Eliane Radigue's "Adnos I-III"

- TCat: Alabama Shakes' "You Ain't Alone" & Arcane's "My Mother is Not the White Dove"*

* {not terribly arcane factoid} there are a number of Arcane's, including one included at PA in Heavy Prog from Australia.

- Snicolette: "Michael Penn's "No Myth" & Owain Phyfe's "Hearts Ease"*

*Quite the balladeer/ troubadour who has played Neo-Pagan festivals and Renaissance faeres or fairs, featuring the ghost of The Bard himself on Keytar (not heard, but there in spirit)

- mathman0806: Dmitry Lisenko's "Prometheus" & Author & Punisher's "Nihil Strength"

- suitkees: Iannis Xenakis' "Kottos" & Hildur Guđnadóttir's "Elevation" *

* I considered Xenakis as well for this.

- Cristi: Place Vendome's" Streets of Fire" & Helloween's "Longing"

I hope I caught all of the entries. I'll add options in now, and hopefully official voting will start later on today.

Edited by Logan - January 25 2021 at 10:34
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2021 at 14:26
ok, here it is.
Two songs with one of my favorite vocalists - Michael Kiske, two bands. Place Vendome is a melodic hard & heavy band, a catchy heavy metal song and a song obviously from Helloween but it's the acoustic ballad Longing. 





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2021 at 12:55
Well I certainly do hope you can think of something that you are happy with Cristi, or both happy and sad about at the same time for the sake of added contrast. ;)

I just thought of this alternate pairing:

Alone Again Naturally



Love Shack



Or Simon and Garfunkel's The Sound of Silence and Brokencyde's Get Crunk.

And not sure about Nick. I will wait until tomorrow to put these up.



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if I don't think of something to post today, I'll have to sit out this round. 
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

suitkees:  Iannis Xenakis “Kottos”   Grangs and burps, angry bees begin the piece, I quite enjoy the drony bits.  More swoops and deep swirls and hard attack with bow, the bees are not very happy, I tell you.  I like that they have the actual music accompanying the piece in the video, fun to watch along with it.  This would be excellent as a film score for a bomber attack, so far).  Back to rapidity about 4 minutes in, with some swoop sounds interspersed.  Lots of dynamics from highs to lows, then back to rapid bowing, sometimes on multiple strings. Ends with some slippy-slidies on the strings.  My old dog, Beau, would not have approved of this piece, however, I find it rather fascinating. Hildur Guđnadóttir “Elevation”  At under a minute, I already love this piece.  Deep, tranquil bowing, rising and falling in intensity throughout, no need to rush or display fireworks.  Lovely.

Nice reading your assessment (as always!). I think "fascinating" or "intriguing" are indeed the words for this Xenakis piece. My cat seems to like it, but she has a very eclectic taste regarding music. She likes Pink Floyd, Yes, Hawkwind, Eisler, Saga.... That is, when I asked her if she liked Xenakis she said "meow", and when I asked "you don't like it?" she said "meow" too... (it is all a matter of interpretation...). Anyway, she didn't seem to appreciate Xenakis less than Guđnadóttir, so that's a good thing... Smile
  Glad you "got," my descriptions, suitkees!  Cats do generally have pretty good taste in music.  My husband always wrote with at least one at his side for their critiques....in fact, some of the notation lists "Fred E. Kong," as the composer (which was one of the cats).  :)  I also know of an African Grey Parrot who has decidedly firm tastes in music, he lets his humans know whether he approves or not, quite vociferously.  He does enjoy quite a bit of prog.  
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

suitkees:  Iannis Xenakis “Kottos”   Grangs and burps, angry bees begin the piece, I quite enjoy the drony bits.  More swoops and deep swirls and hard attack with bow, the bees are not very happy, I tell you.  I like that they have the actual music accompanying the piece in the video, fun to watch along with it.  This would be excellent as a film score for a bomber attack, so far).  Back to rapidity about 4 minutes in, with some swoop sounds interspersed.  Lots of dynamics from highs to lows, then back to rapid bowing, sometimes on multiple strings. Ends with some slippy-slidies on the strings.  My old dog, Beau, would not have approved of this piece, however, I find it rather fascinating. Hildur Guđnadóttir “Elevation”  At under a minute, I already love this piece.  Deep, tranquil bowing, rising and falling in intensity throughout, no need to rush or display fireworks.  Lovely.

Nice reading your assessment (as always!). I think "fascinating" or "intriguing" are indeed the words for this Xenakis piece. My cat seems to like it, but she has a very eclectic taste regarding music. She likes Pink Floyd, Yes, Hawkwind, Eisler, Saga.... That is, when I asked her if she liked Xenakis she said "meow", and when I asked "you don't like it?" she said "meow" too... (it is all a matter of interpretation...). Anyway, she didn't seem to appreciate Xenakis less than Guđnadóttir, so that's a good thing... Smile

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Great, thanks! As always this improves the poll experience big time!
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Playlist started.



@Özgür: I am unable to find a US playable video of Netta "Toy" from the Eurovision final.

The closest I found is this comparison video of her semi-final and grand-final performances.

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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

George:  Dmitry Lisenko “Prometheus”  Just fantastic acoustic bass playing here, with finger-snaps punctuating the piece.  Amazing how much he gets out of four strings (and utilizing the body as well), it almost sounds like more than one person playing.  John Renbourn has that same effect as a soloist, but in a very different way.  Quite enjoyed that one.  Author & Punisher “Nihil Strength”  Sonic blast with lots of distortion and growly vocals.  Siren-like sounds to a definitely punishing, relentless beat, with an abrupt ending.  Certainly a yang to Dmitry’s more yin style.

Dmitry Lisenko is impressive. The track is from his solo album, which features his acoustic bass guitar playing. He is also bassist for his wife's death metal band. I almost used a track from that band, but wanted the contrast of two different solo performances. (I had also put together a story in my head of Prometheus bringing fire to humankind, resulting in the human race burning itself into nothingness, so ending in nihil strength.)  Though I am not knowledgeable on death growls, Dmitry's wife Mara is quite impressive at it.

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Well, that was completely different from the solo Lisenko piece, lol.  LOL
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

George:  Dmitry Lisenko “Prometheus”  Just fantastic acoustic bass playing here, with finger-snaps punctuating the piece.  Amazing how much he gets out of four strings (and utilizing the body as well), it almost sounds like more than one person playing.  John Renbourn has that same effect as a soloist, but in a very different way.  Quite enjoyed that one.  Author & Punisher “Nihil Strength”  Sonic blast with lots of distortion and growly vocals.  Siren-like sounds to a definitely punishing, relentless beat, with an abrupt ending.  Certainly a yang to Dmitry’s more yin style.

Dmitry Lisenko is impressive. The track is from his solo album, which features his acoustic bass guitar playing. He is also bassist for his wife's death metal band. I almost used a track from that band, but wanted the contrast of two different solo performances. (I had also put together a story in my head of Prometheus bringing fire to humankind, resulting in the human race burning itself into nothingness, so ending in nihil strength.)  Though I am not knowledgeable on death growls, Dmitry's wife Mara is quite impressive at it.

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I have some ideas for this round but I am overthinking this definitely LOL, only way I'll be able to participate is by posting spontaneously LOL and then just go..."whatever"... LOL

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First thoughts through to this point of Page 2:

Mike:  Alabama Shakes “You Ain’t Alone”  Slow blues-type tune with one powerful woman vocalist.  Standard blues/rock ensemble backing her in a laid-back, yet dynamic live performance.  They would certainly go down well at any blues festival.  Arcane  “My Mother is Not the White Dove”  A much more ethereal piece, with violins and Jane Siberry’s very artistic vocals.  Flute and watery guitars provide the support, with fluttery horns as the song progresses.  This feels almost like a companion piece to some of “Astral Weeks,” to me. 

George:  Dmitry Lisenko “Prometheus”  Just fantastic acoustic bass playing here, with finger-snaps punctuating the piece.  Amazing how much he gets out of four strings (and utilizing the body as well), it almost sounds like more than one person playing.  John Renbourn has that same effect as a soloist, but in a very different way.  Quite enjoyed that one.  Author & Punisher “Nihil Strength”  Sonic blast with lots of distortion and growly vocals.  Siren-like sounds to a definitely punishing, relentless beat, with an abrupt ending.  Certainly a yang to Dmitry’s more yin style.

suitkees:  Iannis Xenakis “Kottos”   Grangs and burps, angry bees begin the piece, I quite enjoy the drony bits.  More swoops and deep swirls and hard attack with bow, the bees are not very happy, I tell you.  I like that they have the actual music accompanying the piece in the video, fun to watch along with it.  This would be excellent as a film score for a bomber attack, so far).  Back to rapidity about 4 minutes in, with some swoop sounds interspersed.  Lots of dynamics from highs to lows, then back to rapid bowing, sometimes on multiple strings. Ends with some slippy-slidies on the strings.  My old dog, Beau, would not have approved of this piece, however, I find it rather fascinating. Hildur Guđnadóttir “Elevation”  At under a minute, I already love this piece.  Deep, tranquil bowing, rising and falling in intensity throughout, no need to rush or display fireworks.  Lovely. 


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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

The Anders:  Kashmir “The Cynic”  Has a definite pop appeal from the get-go, with shimmery vocals, a catchy chorus and washes of guitar underpinning it all.  Definitely a cold feel to the music, it is somewhat detached, emotionally.  Second from Kashmir “The Push”  This one begins with an organ (or concertina), a simple voice and guitar strumming, certainly very warm, I prefer it much to the first offering, even in it’s simplicity.


I believe it is a harmonium in "The Push". I think you can hear the sound of the pedals.
  Thank you for the clarification!Smile
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