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Topic: Interactive Poll 2021 0010: Duos of ContrastPosted By: Logan
Subject: Interactive Poll 2021 0010: Duos of Contrast
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 00:20
In this edition again we will, like with the previous poll, nominate two song/ track choices. Both of those choices should be entered in your initial post. Each of your two choices should contrast with each other (a sort of yin and yang dualist proposition). This does not mean that they must be opposites per se, such as hard vs. soft, aggressive vs. gentle, happy vs. sad, consonant vs. dissonant and so forth, but they should feel quite tonally different to you and at least provide some interesting contrast from your perspective. Of course this approach might very well lend itself to a listener liking one of the selections while disliking the other. Both selections could be from the same artist or by different ones and the selections should not be included in the Prog Archives database.
When it comes time to voting, please vote for and list three of the poll options that are not your own nomination (three duos in other words).
Voting should have started by Sunday, January 24th or 25th, I think, and the next poll would be up about one week later (I wouldn't mind making it faster).
Here are my two choices:
Mica Levi's "Lipstick to Void" (which is more atmospheric than musical one might say)
Mono's "Disney Town"
While the two contrast, I feel that they in part complement each other as well.
The poll is now open.
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Replies: Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 04:52
Nice, ideas become more sophisticated... and harder to choose. But I'll take the challenge!
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 05:07
I'm again coming up with the first thing that came to my mind.
Two songs from the Eurovision Song Contest.
One of them is conveying positive and universal messages, whilst the other is utterly self-indulgent.
Also I was dismayed by the results of the two. Chiara's awesome song was barely above the bottom, wheres Netta's nasty song was the winner of the year. Don't get me wrong, I found it fun but it didn't deserve to be on top methinks.
Chiara - What If We (2009) - Malta
Netta - Toy (2018) - Israel
Edit: The "Netta - Toy" that could work for you to watch, if the video above doesn't work for you:
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 05:26
that's a real challenge
I'll try and come up with something at least interesting and hopefully entertaining.
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 05:34
I had an immediate thought for a duo, which was dashed as soon as I searched on YouTube. No dice. It was a shame, as it fitted with your yin and yang, too - that being the exact phrase I used in my review for the new Seaorm album.
Since I can’t share the videos, I just want to share my thoughts (ie, the first couple of paragraphs of my review). Ignore them and move on, if you just want to see the choices that actually will be voted on. (And I will attempt to come back with my own pair of nominees as soon as I can.)
[EDIT to add Bandcamp links, in case anyone is interested]
Last year I reviewed “Sada”, the second collaboration between the Spanish jazz fusion and RIO guitarist Ángel Ontalva and members of Russian psychedelic space-prog rockers Vespero. I made the comment that I have enjoyed several of their releases, but somehow missed their first collaboration. Needless to say, after thoroughly enjoying “Sada”, I did indeed go back to sample the delights of “Carta Marina” (2018). One of the tracks on that album I enjoyed the most was “Sea Orm”, so it probably comes as no surprise that when I saw that this third collaboration between Ángel Ontalva and members of Vespero was made under the name Seaorm, my interest was piqued even more than it might have been otherwise. The reason for this is presumably because Seaorm includes only two members of Vespero, and I hope it is also because this trio will continue to make further releases under this name - because Olkhon is a fabulous album!
I’m somewhat indebted to Asian Death Crustacean, too, as their 2020 release Baikal led me to read more about this great lake, so that I recognised the names Olkhon, Lusud-Khan, Angara and Shaman Rock. That recognition and knowledge, along with the cover art, the name the trio had given to themselves, and the musicians that made up that trio, all added up to a whole heap of excitement and anticipation for an album I’d not yet heard a single note from. I was aware that I already had such high expectations, I might well be disappointed. Of course, you will have gathered already that this was far from the case.
If we consider Lake Baikal to be an inland sea, then Lusud-Khan is the Sea Orm that inhabits it. An orm is a serpent or dragon, and Lusud-Khan is the mysterious such monster that is said to inhabit Baikal. It provides an eerie, almost primeval, opening to “Olkhon”, and fluid, watery notes that are reminiscent of “Sea Orm” from “Carta Marina”, before moving into an almost post-rock groove with eastern notes reminiscent of Asian Death Crustacean’s “Baikal” - which came as a complete surprise to me. Now there’s absolutely no way Asian Death Crustacean could have had any way of knowing what Seaorm would sound like, and I am quite sure the members of Seaorm have no knowledge of Asian Death Crustacean. So what this says to me, is that both bands have done a terrific job of giving a sonic description of Baikal. Even though they are completely unrelated releases, and probably unknown to each other, I can’t help but think of “Baikal” and “Olkhon” as being yin and yang, and (respectively) physical and spiritual descriptions of the lake, the land, and the people of the Baikal region.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 05:56
Nice theme, Greg. I will have to ponder on this one.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 11:16
This is quite a tricky theme because the term duality can be interpreted in many ways. I will have to think about it, I don't have some obvious choices for it.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 11:18
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 12:00
Wonderful idea, Greg!
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 12:07
Cool idea, I'll have to think about my choices.
Shadowyzard wrote:
Also I was dismayed by the results of the two. Chiara's awesome song was barely above the bottom, wheres Netta's nasty song was the winner of the year. Don't get me wrong, I found it fun but it didn't deserve to be on top methinks.
The ESC is a freak show, it has nothing to do with music for quite some time now.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 12:22
Meltdowner wrote:
Cool idea, I'll have to think about my choices.
Shadowyzard wrote:
Also I was dismayed by the results of the two. Chiara's awesome song was barely above the bottom, wheres Netta's nasty song was the winner of the year. Don't get me wrong, I found it fun but it didn't deserve to be on top methinks.
The ESC is a freak show, it has nothing to do with music for quite some time now.
We (Turkey) have been out of it for some years, so I'm not following it as I used to do. The "public vote" thing ruined this song for instance. The jury agreed that it was one of the best in the competition, but the dumb publics voted for dumb songs and neighbouring countries as usual, and the song ended in a ridiculous place.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 12:33
And this one, together with the one above, should have been in number 1 and 2. This one made it up in the Top 5 at least, as far as I remember.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 12:33
Definitely a great theme and will need to think on it a bit.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 13:10
Here's to you my couple of songs.
One of my favorite rock artist is the Californian Steve Wynn, who gave his best in the Dream Syndicate (whose song I posted "Merrittville" in an early poll) and his usual first albums, up to 2000.
My selection includes Carolyn, a song taken from his first album "Kerosene Man" (1990) easy, catchy, melodic but arranged in my opinion beautifully with violins, a fresh song, which conveys joy, sparkling, a sense of spring.
And a song taken from his double album, the masterpiece of maturity ("Here comes the miracles", 2001), which instead is a rock song, where he sings with a completely different vocal register, and where the rhythm and not the melody is the leader, with great performance of electric guitars (sometimes distorted) and drums. A dry, direct song that hits the heart, that is, the opposite of Carolyn's sounds and mood friendly.
Steve Wynn has always alternated melodic, sometimes pop, Sixties-style songs with hard rock songs, almost punk, where he sings with a different voice, so my opinion lends itself well to this poll
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 14:12
I'm not sure I can rationalise my two choices, but once I decided on this pairing, it just seemed right, more right than even more different pairings. These two tracks are among my favourite non-prog tracks, and both are from the '90s:
Kula Shaker - Grateful When You're Dead / Jerry Was There
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Sir Psycho Sexy
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 14:45
The contrast here is between cold and warm. I decided to go with the same band and show two different sides of them.
Kashmir
is a Danish band that has existed since 1991. They have been inactive for some years now, but I
think they are working on a reunion. Centered around the guitarist,
singer and songwriter Kasper Eistrup, they took their name from the Led
Zeppelin song (in the beginning they were actually called Nirvana (!) - that was before
Kurt Coban and co. were known anywhere outside Seattle).
Their earliest
music sounds like a mix between Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers
and Frank Zappa, and in particular their first album Travelogue (1994) was overplayed at my boarding school, to a degree that I got nausea. I'm still not much of a fan of it, but they grew a lot musically with Cruzential from 1996 which is more eclectic and which I still enjoy listening to.
But
from around 1999 their music became more vulnerable with inspiration
from both Pink Floyd, Radiohead and Jeff Buckley, as can be heard on the
brilliant The Good Life (1999).
The first song is the cold one. It is called "The Cynic", and it appears on the 2005 album No Balance Palace which was produced by Tony Visconti. David Bowie sings lead vocals in the second verse (he's on Progarchives, I know, but here he is just a "featured artist", so I hope it's OK. Otherwise I will choose another song).
The second is the warm one. "The Push" is from Zitilites (City Lights, 2003).
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 15:19
I'll use this to promote once more my love for electronic avantgarde music. I have a tendency to distinguish two major approaches there, namely "busy" and "meditative". Of course much is somewhere in between, however I'd like to give you one rather pure example of each.
This one of the Langham Research Centre is pretty busy, and as many busy things much fun (starts at 0:19):
On the meditative side, I'd really like to feature genius French composer Eliane Radigue, but pretty much all of her stuff is very long, and the meditative approach perhaps requires that. This one is 9 minutes (sorry, I've picked the other one rather short), it's actually a "trailer" of a 3 CD work, but works pretty well on its own.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 17:50
Shadowyzard wrote:
I'm again coming up with the first thing that came to my mind.
Two songs from the Eurovision Song Contest.
One of them is conveying positive and universal messages, whilst the other is utterly self-indulgent.
Also I was dismayed by the results of the two. Chiara's awesome song was barely above the bottom, wheres Netta's nasty song was the winner of the year. Don't get me wrong, I found it fun but it didn't deserve to be on top methinks.
Videos removed for space.
The first one, Chiara, worked for me, the second did not, so I hope this one will work for others here. It's the Netta "Toy" Eurovision Final, per YT. Hopefully it's the right one. You also made twp later posts that also didn't work for me, but I don't know the titles or artists.
Video removed, as Shadowyzard said it's a very abbreviated one, not the full piece.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 17:56
nick_h_nz wrote:
I had an immediate thought for a duo, which was dashed as soon as I searched on YouTube. No dice. It was a shame, as it fitted with your yin and yang, too - that being the exact phrase I used in my review for the new Seaorm album.
Since I can’t share the videos, I just want to share my thoughts (ie, the first couple of paragraphs of my review). Ignore them and move on, if you just want to see the choices that actually will be voted on. (And I will attempt to come back with my own pair of nominees as soon as I can.)
[EDIT to add Bandcamp links, in case anyone is interested]
Edited for space: Nick, are there two specific pieces by each that you would like to nominate? I have no problem using bandcamp, although it can't be added to the YT playlist.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 17:59
^ Nickie, the video you put is severely cut and cropped. The full song is of about twice length. The one I put in this post is not the same performance, even if it says "winning performance". Probably the semi-final performance. (Edit: it is the post-victory performance, apparently.) There are dramatic diferences, but I couldn't find a better solution. I hope this will work for you, in the first place.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 18:15
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ Nickie, the video you put is severely cut and cropped. The full song is of about twice length. The one I put in this post is not the same performance, even if it says "winning performance". Probably the semi-final performance. (Edit: it is the post-victory performance, apparently.) There are dramatic diferences, but I couldn't find a better solution. I hope this will work for you, in the first place.
Video removed for space.
It's the country limitations of YT, apparently, as I can't view this one, either. How long is the full song? That might help in finding it or a closer approximation. I will take the other video out of my post to you after this, as it's not the correct one.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 18:19
^ Its duration is 3.16. I hope the Americans are/were able to watch Eurovision. Otherwise, it would be so much for the freedom you're always boasting with.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 18:49
Will try and find it, based on that, it should help!
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 19:06
Two amazing vocalists that contrast yet enhance each other.
It's heavy rock/blues of Powerhouse Brittany Howard.....
Alabama Shakes - "You Ain't Alone"
.....Vs. Avant-World-Jazz of Dynamic Jane Siberry......
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 18 2021 at 23:20
I struggled with this all day and finally, knowing if I just gave up, it would come my way. Oddly, through Jeopardy! And not even related to the category, other than it being music, but somehow, it made me think of this. So here we are.
Michael Penn "No Myth." What if he were Romeo in black jeans?
paired with Owain Phyfe's "Hearts Ease," from Shakespeare himself, from the play, Romeo and Juliet.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 04:13
For my pairing, I have two different solo performances. First up is fingerstyle acoustic bass guitar playing.
Dmitry Lisenko - Prometheus
Following that up with DIY one-man band of industrial/electronic doom metal.
Author & Punisher - Nihil Strength
Author & Punisher is also a mechanical engineer who designs and builds much of his own equipment.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 05:46
And now for something completely different...
...well, as is the case for everything put up here, so far.
Nice poll idea! And the teaming up of two pieces is or can be a kind of a challenge. The saying "apples and oranges" comes by quite frequently on these forums, but for me it is always possible to compare apples with oranges as long as we find the common denominator to base the comparison on (taste, form, vitamins, colour, throwability, hammer-resistance...).
Hildur Guðnadóttir would probably never have imagined to be teamed up with Iannis Xenakis, one day, but here we go... The common denominator is the solo/main instrument: the cello. The contrast is in the playing (or the treatment/mistreatment) of the instrument: rage vs. appeasement...
The first piece by Iannis Xenakis is called Kottos and I quote from the CD-booklet: Kottos "is the name of the three-hundred-armed giant that Zeus fought and vanquished, an "allusion to all the rage and virtuosity required to perform this piece." For the playing of this piece Xenakis recommended to "abstain from 'beautiful' sounds." It's maybe a bit long to some because of this, so don't hesitate to skip to the next one if this one offends you...
The second piece is by Hildur Guðnadóttir, which, after the violence of Xenakis, brings us a much more ethereal approach of the instrument.
Iannis Xenakis - Kottos (1977, from the CD Iannis Xenakis - Chamber Music 1955-1990 - Disques Montaigne/WDR):
Hildur Guðnadóttir - Elevation (2009, from the album Without Sinking - Deutsche Grammophon):
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 09:40
suitkees wrote:
Nice poll idea! And the teaming up of two pieces is or can be a kind of a challenge. The saying "apples and oranges" comes by quite frequently on these forums, but for me it is always possible to compare apples with oranges as long as we find the common denominator to base the comparison on (taste, form, vitamins, colour, throwability, hammer-resistance...).
I think that believing that apples and oranges can't be compared shows a failure of imagination and conceptualisation. Common denominators in types of fruit, for instance, are easy to come by, but even in contrasting more disparate things such as apples and motorcycles, one can find commonalities. Furthermore, a part of making comparisons is contrasting, so by illustrating or thinking about the differences between the things one is also comparing the things.
On another note, if one's choices are not available on youtube, while I wouldn't call it ideal as it complicates things a bit and some might not wish that added step due to a little less convenience, I'm okay with using bandcamp and including those links with a link to the youtube playlist.
I had wanted to go with a different two, but one of my ideal choices was not on youtube -- my other choice was. I changed both of my choices just as I was about to post this topic quite impulsively.
Thanks for all of the responses.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 10:56
As per usual, here are my notes on first listen of the Page 1 submissions:
Logan: Mica
Levi “Lipstick to Void:” Begins with
some of what I think of as “deep space,” sounds, along with male sound of
vocals or breathing at regular intervals.
Some slidy, high sounds come along and shimmery (lipstick?) sounds
commence, gradually increasing in intensity, then fall back. Different slidy sounds emerge, almost like
tape recordings played very quickly and some jibbery jaggedy string effects
join in. Low, low bass strings and a
footstep or staff (cane) enters, providing another regular cadence. The strings become almost screechy before the
piece abruptly ends. The music at times
sounded almost like a horror film soundtrack to my ears. Mono “Disney Town” Another piece that feels dark, initially, it
has much more obvious structure to it, with reedy keys and percussion that is
more conventional. A breathy female
vocal adds to the moody sensuousness of the piece. It does also seem to complement the other
choice, it’s very cinematic feeling, though very different.
Shadowyzard:
Chiara “What If We” Lovely,
obviously trained voice, as you said, with a positive message, backed with soft
orchestra. A crowd-pleasing sort of
adult contemporary song, if there is such a category anymore. Flawless performance. Netta “Toy”
Very modern sort of rap/hip-hop-ish song (if that’s what you call this
style that pretty much everyone does these days) with a Latin rhythm. Definitely fits the opposite yin/yang theme,
even though neither are “my” kind of music, I prefer the first to
this one, as lyrically it’s pretty much one note. I’d be a bit scared of her, lol.
Lorenzo: I LOVED the Dream Syndicate! But haven’t heard these, so very intrigued
before I even get started. Steve Wynn
“Carolyn” Americana-styled band sound, a
bit upbeat with Steve Wynn’s very pointed vocals and poppy/catchy chorus.
String section break in the middle. Surprised this wasn’t a bigger hit at the
time. Second by Steve Wynn “Strange New
World” Much rockier in feel (more like
the Dream Syndicate), this time, as you said a more punk-ish attitude. Still a well-crafted song, he’s got a real
feel for that. These definitely are two
sides to Steve Wynn’s coin. Well done!
I prophesy disaster: Kula Shaker “Grateful When You’re Dead / Jerry Was
There” More rocky than I was expecting
from the photo. Straight ahead with a
driving beat, solid band and convincing vocals.
Lots of interesting breaks with the return to the basic song, provided
by choral accents and driving lead guitar.
It drifts off into a pseudo-psychedelic ramble, which is also well done,
even if the lyrics seem a bit sarcastic, love the guitar work here. Red Hot Chili Peppers “Sir Psycho Sexy,” This one I know, but when we are voting on
the two here. This is truly very
different than the other choice, that sort of funky rock rap thang that RHCP
pretty much invented.
The Anders:
Kashmir “The Cynic” Has a
definite pop appeal from the get-go, with shimmery vocals, a catchy chorus and
washes of guitar underpinning it all.
Definitely a cold feel to the music, it is somewhat detached,
emotionally. Second from Kashmir “The
Push” This one begins with an organ (or
concertina), a simple voice and guitar strumming, certainly very warm, I prefer
it much to the first offering, even in it’s simplicity.
Lewian: Langham
Research Center “Algebra of the Sky” Some spacy sounds here, with what sounds like
astronaut/computer voice recordings and blippity blips. Really interesting to watch the guys at
work. Some screechy sounds from time to
time and wavy swirls. A creaky door
opening sound and scurches. Ends with an
arcing sound. Eliane Radigue “Adnos
I-III” The feeling at the beginning is
very ominous to me, we’ll see what happens as it progresses. The feeling shifts as the waaaaa waaaa waaaa
sound ends and it turns shimmery with occasional deep bell sounds way way way
underneath. There is not much shift from
this for the duration, but it is an excellent meditative piece and certainly
polar opposite of the first one.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 12:11
Snocolette wrote:
... Logan: Mica Levi “Lipstick to Void:” Begins with some of what I think of as “deep space,” sounds, along with male sound of vocals or breathing at regular intervals. Some slidy, high sounds come along and shimmery (lipstick?) sounds commence, gradually increasing in intensity, then fall back. Different slidy sounds emerge, almost like tape recordings played very quickly and some jibbery jaggedy string effects join in. Low, low bass strings and a footstep or staff (cane) enters, providing another regular cadence. The strings become almost screechy before the piece abruptly ends. The music at times sounded almost like a horror film soundtrack to my ears. Mono “Disney Town” Another piece that feels dark, initially, it has much more obvious structure to it, with reedy keys and percussion that is more conventional. A breathy female vocal adds to the moody sensuousness of the piece. It does also seem to complement the other choice, it’s very cinematic feeling, though very different....
Thanks, well described. "Lipstick to Void" from Under the Skin is off a horror film soundtrack (sometimes described as sci-fi and is quite Art Housey). It's a very marmite film. I loved it, was touched by it, and found the imagery very memorable. It's not one that I would recommend to most and know various people who found it a chore to watch. I also considered using some music from the horror soundtrack for Hereditary (a great horror film that I wouldn't recommend to most -- quite harrowing). I have many soundtracks in my collection (my first purchases being the Midnight Express and Das Boot soundtracks). I realised that choosing that very atmospheric piece that does work best in the context of the film might well mean that my choices will get no votes, but that's okay. It does in part complement the "Disney Town" track for me -- could work as a kind of intro or coda to it as both are rather cinematic and have some similar ambient electronic qualities while the moods and expression also contrast with each other.
By the way, originally, I was going to contrast a languorous, atmospheric jazzy piece with a punkish Zolo piece (with Zolo think Zappa, Cardiacs, Miriodor, Fred Frith, Albert Marcœur, Samla Mannas Manna...). I won't post them here cause I decided to save one of those for a later time (one of my favourite pieces of music).
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 13:10
Logan wrote:
Thanks, well described. "Lipstick to Void" from Under the Skin is off a horror film soundtrack (sometimes described as sci-fi and is quite Art Housey). It's a very marmite film. I loved it, was touched by it, and found the imagery very memorable. It's not one that I would recommend to most and know various people who found it a chore to watch. I also considered using some music from the horror soundtrack for Hereditary (a great horror film that I wouldn't recommend to most -- quite harrowing). I have many soundtracks in my collection (my first purchases being the Midnight Express and Das Boot soundtracks). I realised that choosing that very atmospheric piece that does work best in the context of the film might well mean that my choices will get no votes, but that's okay. It does in part complement the "Disney Town" track for me -- could work as a kind of intro or coda to it as both are rather cinematic and have some similar ambient electronic qualities while the moods and expression also contrast with each other.
By the way, originally, I was going to contrast a languorous, atmospheric jazzy piece with a punkish Zolo piece (with Zolo think Zappa, Cardiacs, Miriodor, Fred Frith, Albert Marcœur, Samla Mannas Manna...). I won't post them here cause I decided to save one of those for a later time (one of my favourite pieces of music).
I loved both The Midnight Express and Das Boot films and do quite enjoy soundtracks, although sometimes I find myself listening to the music more than watching the film, which is not quite what they're going for, I suppose. Looking forward to eventually hearing the Zolo piece. And I love the way you created this poll, another fine twist.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 13:45
Snicolette wrote:
The Anders:
Kashmir “The Cynic” Has a
definite pop appeal from the get-go, with shimmery vocals, a catchy chorus and
washes of guitar underpinning it all.
Definitely a cold feel to the music, it is somewhat detached,
emotionally. Second from Kashmir “The
Push” This one begins with an organ (or
concertina), a simple voice and guitar strumming, certainly very warm, I prefer
it much to the first offering, even in it’s simplicity.
I believe it is a harmonium in "The Push". I think you can hear the sound of the pedals.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 14:15
The Anders wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
The Anders:
Kashmir “The Cynic” Has a
definite pop appeal from the get-go, with shimmery vocals, a catchy chorus and
washes of guitar underpinning it all.
Definitely a cold feel to the music, it is somewhat detached,
emotionally. Second from Kashmir “The
Push” This one begins with an organ (or
concertina), a simple voice and guitar strumming, certainly very warm, I prefer
it much to the first offering, even in it’s simplicity.
I believe it is a harmonium in "The Push". I think you can hear the sound of the pedals.
Thank you for the clarification!
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 19 2021 at 18:04
First thoughts through to this point of Page 2:
Mike:
Alabama Shakes “You Ain’t Alone”
Slow blues-type tune with one powerful woman vocalist. Standard blues/rock ensemble backing her in a
laid-back, yet dynamic live performance.
They would certainly go down well at any blues festival. Arcane “My Mother is Not the
White Dove” A much more ethereal piece,
with violins and Jane Siberry’s very artistic vocals. Flute and watery guitars provide the support,
with fluttery horns as the song progresses.
This feels almost like a companion piece to some of “Astral Weeks,” to
me.
George:
Dmitry Lisenko “Prometheus” Just
fantastic acoustic bass playing here, with finger-snaps punctuating the
piece. Amazing how much he gets out of
four strings (and utilizing the body as well), it almost sounds like more than
one person playing. John Renbourn has
that same effect as a soloist, but in a very different way. Quite enjoyed that one. Author & Punisher “Nihil Strength” Sonic blast with lots of distortion and
growly vocals. Siren-like sounds to a
definitely punishing, relentless beat, with an abrupt ending. Certainly a yang to Dmitry’s more yin style.
suitkees:Iannis Xenakis “Kottos” Grangs and burps, angry bees begin the piece,
I quite enjoy the drony bits. More
swoops and deep swirls and hard attack with bow, the bees are not very happy, I
tell you. I like that they have the
actual music accompanying the piece in the video, fun to watch along with
it. This would be excellent as a film
score for a bomber attack, so far). Back
to rapidity about 4 minutes in, with some swoop sounds interspersed. Lots of dynamics from highs to lows, then
back to rapid bowing, sometimes on multiple strings. Ends with some slippy-slidies
on the strings. My old dog, Beau, would
not have approved of this piece, however, I find it rather fascinating. Hildur
Guðnadóttir “Elevation” At under
a minute, I already love this piece.
Deep, tranquil bowing, rising and falling in intensity throughout, no
need to rush or display fireworks.
Lovely.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 20 2021 at 15:53
I have some ideas for this round but I am overthinking this definitely , only way I'll be able to participate is by posting spontaneously and then just go..."whatever"...
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 20 2021 at 18:21
Snicolette wrote:
George:
Dmitry Lisenko “Prometheus” Just
fantastic acoustic bass playing here, with finger-snaps punctuating the
piece. Amazing how much he gets out of
four strings (and utilizing the body as well), it almost sounds like more than
one person playing. John Renbourn has
that same effect as a soloist, but in a very different way. Quite enjoyed that one. Author & Punisher “Nihil Strength” Sonic blast with lots of distortion and
growly vocals. Siren-like sounds to a
definitely punishing, relentless beat, with an abrupt ending. Certainly a yang to Dmitry’s more yin style.
Dmitry Lisenko is impressive. The track is from his solo album, which features his acoustic bass guitar playing. He is also bassist for his wife's death metal band. I almost used a track from that band, but wanted the contrast of two different solo performances. (I had also put together a story in my head of Prometheus bringing fire to humankind, resulting in the human race burning itself into nothingness, so ending in nihil strength.) Though I am not knowledgeable on death growls, Dmitry's wife Mara is quite impressive at it.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 20 2021 at 18:35
mathman0806 wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
George:
Dmitry Lisenko “Prometheus” Just
fantastic acoustic bass playing here, with finger-snaps punctuating the
piece. Amazing how much he gets out of
four strings (and utilizing the body as well), it almost sounds like more than
one person playing. John Renbourn has
that same effect as a soloist, but in a very different way. Quite enjoyed that one. Author & Punisher “Nihil Strength” Sonic blast with lots of distortion and
growly vocals. Siren-like sounds to a
definitely punishing, relentless beat, with an abrupt ending. Certainly a yang to Dmitry’s more yin style.
Dmitry Lisenko is impressive. The track is from his solo album, which features his acoustic bass guitar playing. He is also bassist for his wife's death metal band. I almost used a track from that band, but wanted the contrast of two different solo performances. (I had also put together a story in my head of Prometheus bringing fire to humankind, resulting in the human race burning itself into nothingness, so ending in nihil strength.) Though I am not knowledgeable on death growls, Dmitry's wife Mara is quite impressive at it.
Video removed for space
Well, that was completely different from the solo Lisenko piece, lol.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 20 2021 at 18:37
@Özgür: I am unable to find a US playable video of Netta "Toy" from the Eurovision final.
The closest I found is this comparison video of her semi-final and grand-final performances.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 02:49
Great, thanks! As always this improves the poll experience big time!
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 14:36
Snicolette wrote:
suitkees:Iannis Xenakis “Kottos” Grangs and burps, angry bees begin the piece,
I quite enjoy the drony bits. More
swoops and deep swirls and hard attack with bow, the bees are not very happy, I
tell you. I like that they have the
actual music accompanying the piece in the video, fun to watch along with
it. This would be excellent as a film
score for a bomber attack, so far). Back
to rapidity about 4 minutes in, with some swoop sounds interspersed. Lots of dynamics from highs to lows, then
back to rapid bowing, sometimes on multiple strings. Ends with some slippy-slidies
on the strings. My old dog, Beau, would
not have approved of this piece, however, I find it rather fascinating. Hildur
Guðnadóttir “Elevation” At under
a minute, I already love this piece.
Deep, tranquil bowing, rising and falling in intensity throughout, no
need to rush or display fireworks.
Lovely.
Nice reading your assessment (as always!). I think "fascinating" or "intriguing" are indeed the words for this Xenakis piece. My cat seems to like it, but she has a very eclectic taste regarding music. She likes Pink Floyd, Yes, Hawkwind, Eisler, Saga.... That is, when I asked her if she liked Xenakis she said "meow", and when I asked "you don't like it?" she said "meow" too... (it is all a matter of interpretation...). Anyway, she didn't seem to appreciate Xenakis less than Guðnadóttir, so that's a good thing...
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 22 2021 at 14:40
suitkees wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
suitkees:Iannis Xenakis “Kottos” Grangs and burps, angry bees begin the piece,
I quite enjoy the drony bits. More
swoops and deep swirls and hard attack with bow, the bees are not very happy, I
tell you. I like that they have the
actual music accompanying the piece in the video, fun to watch along with
it. This would be excellent as a film
score for a bomber attack, so far). Back
to rapidity about 4 minutes in, with some swoop sounds interspersed. Lots of dynamics from highs to lows, then
back to rapid bowing, sometimes on multiple strings. Ends with some slippy-slidies
on the strings. My old dog, Beau, would
not have approved of this piece, however, I find it rather fascinating. Hildur
Guðnadóttir “Elevation” At under
a minute, I already love this piece.
Deep, tranquil bowing, rising and falling in intensity throughout, no
need to rush or display fireworks.
Lovely.
Nice reading your assessment (as always!). I think "fascinating" or "intriguing" are indeed the words for this Xenakis piece. My cat seems to like it, but she has a very eclectic taste regarding music. She likes Pink Floyd, Yes, Hawkwind, Eisler, Saga.... That is, when I asked her if she liked Xenakis she said "meow", and when I asked "you don't like it?" she said "meow" too... (it is all a matter of interpretation...). Anyway, she didn't seem to appreciate Xenakis less than Guðnadóttir, so that's a good thing...
Glad you "got," my descriptions, suitkees! Cats do generally have pretty good taste in music. My husband always wrote with at least one at his side for their critiques....in fact, some of the notation lists "Fred E. Kong," as the composer (which was one of the cats). :) I also know of an African Grey Parrot who has decidedly firm tastes in music, he lets his humans know whether he approves or not, quite vociferously. He does enjoy quite a bit of prog.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 24 2021 at 07:23
if I don't think of something to post today, I'll have to sit out this round.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 24 2021 at 12:55
Well I certainly do hope you can think of something that you are happy with Cristi, or both happy and sad about at the same time for the sake of added contrast. ;)
I just thought of this alternate pairing:
Alone Again Naturally
Love Shack
Or Simon and Garfunkel's The Sound of Silence and Brokencyde's Get Crunk.
And not sure about Nick. I will wait until tomorrow to put these up.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 24 2021 at 14:26
ok, here it is.
Two songs with one of my favorite vocalists - Michael Kiske, two bands. Place Vendome is a melodic hard & heavy band, a catchy heavy metal song and a song obviously from Helloween but it's the acoustic ballad Longing.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 10:32
- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*
[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.
I do see that Geo found another and has it in the cuurent playlist (and Nickie earlier).
- nick_h_nz: As said, if you wish to nominate specific ones from Asian Death Crustacean and Olkhon, I, like Nicky, am fine with bandcamp(we would want to direct link to the specific songs). If you wish to and see this, I can add those to the end of the list later today (was going to post about this last night but the site went down),
- jamesbaldwin: Steve Wynn's "Carolyn" & "Strange New World"
- I prophesy disaster: Kula Shaker's "Grateful When You're Dead / Jerry Was There" & Red Hot Chili Peppers's "Sir Psycho Sexy"
- The Anders: Kashmir 's "The Cynic" & "The Push"
- Lewian: Langham Research Centre's "Algebra of the Sky" & Eliane Radigue's "Adnos I-III"
- TCat: Alabama Shakes' "You Ain't Alone" & Arcane's "My Mother is Not the White Dove"*
* {not terribly arcane factoid} there are a number of Arcane's, including one included at PA in Heavy Prog from Australia.
- Snicolette: "Michael Penn's "No Myth" & Owain Phyfe's "Hearts Ease"*
*Quite the balladeer/ troubadour who has played Neo-Pagan festivals and Renaissance faeres or fairs, featuring the ghost of The Bard himself on Keytar (not heard, but there in spirit)
- Cristi: Place Vendome's" Streets of Fire" & Helloween's "Longing"
I hope I caught all of the entries. I'll add options in now, and hopefully official voting will start later on today.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 11:01
These are the options listed (quotation marks removed as it is causing an error)
"Lipstick to Void" & "Disney Town" "What If We" & "Toy" "Carolyn" & "Strange New World" "Grateful When You're Dead / Jerry..." & "Sir Psycho Sexy" "The Cynic" & "The Push" "Algebra of the Sky" & "Adnos I-III" "You Ain't Alone" & "My Mother is Not the White Dove" "No Myth" & "Hearts Ease" "Prometheus" & "Nihil Strength" "Kottos" & "Elevation" "Streets of Fire" & "Longing"
Okay, thought there might be another addition, but I don't think so now, so the poll is open to voting.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 11:52
Here are my first thoughts on your secondary option, Logan, and also on your entry, Cristi's.
Logan (alternate pairing): Gilbert O’Sullivan “Alone Again
Naturally” I remember this one well from
when it was a hit in the US. Kind of a
wry self-deprecating song, most of us probably can relate! B 52’s “Love Shack” And I also know this one. I actually love the dissonant harmonies of
the women singers in this band, they were very amusing and also that is very
hard to sing like that. Lots of fun
Cristi:
Place Vendome “Streets of Fire”
The piece begins with some very pretty piano, then full-on onslaught of a
very rocking band. Has a feeling of
grandness in the music. Very competent
male rock vocalist sings a song of fighting for survival in a war-like
setting. Helloween “Longing” Acoustic guitar strumming and
mournful lyrics are sung by another powerful vocalist. Nice, strings provide a bolster and interest
to the piece. I think this is my
favourite that I’ve heard from you, Cristi and they are both very different
from each other. Well done!
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:08
Logan wrote:
- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*
[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.
Nickie, can you please share Netta's Toy here, if it (the video you watched) is from a linkable source, so that I can add it to my original post?
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:17
Shadowyzard wrote:
Logan wrote:
- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*
[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.
Nickie, can you please share Netta's Toy here, if it (the video you watched) is from a linkable source, so that I can add it to my original post?
This is all I could find and he did say that it wasn't the full one he'd entered. But here it is, at least you can get an idea, I think, if nothing else will work for you. I had to resort only to this one, for my own summation.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:20
Snicolette wrote:
Shadowyzard wrote:
Logan wrote:
- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*
[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.
Nickie, can you please share Netta's Toy here, if it (the video you watched) is from a linkable source, so that I can add it to my original post?
This is all I could find and he did say that it wasn't the full one he'd entered. But here it is, at least you can get an idea, I think, if nothing else will work for you. I had to resort only to this one, for my own summation.
Thank you. This is the semi-final + final performance together (I don't know how they handled the audial differences BTW) but better than nothing.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:24
Shadowyzard wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
Shadowyzard wrote:
Logan wrote:
- Shadowyzard: Chiara's "What If We" & Netta's "Toy"*
[Note that the video for "Toy" does not work in my country, and I see a number of vids on youtube.
Nickie, can you please share Netta's Toy here, if it (the video you watched) is from a linkable source, so that I can add it to my original post?
This is all I could find and you did say that it wasn't the full one you'd entered. But here it is, at least one can get an idea, I think, if nothing else will work. I had to resort only to this one, for my own summation.
Thank you. This is the semi-final + final performance together (I don't know how they handled the audial differences BTW) but better than nothing.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:29
^ added to my original post. Thanks again.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:45
Not sure what the OP wanted here...and I have read his post several times...yin and yang..sort of.....call me confused....
But I love the melodic west coast style rock that is country and folk influenced and the more trad things so....two songs about different ways of looking at love and stylistically different. Two of my favorite songs....
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:48
Snicolette wrote:
Cristi:
Place Vendome “Streets of Fire”
The piece begins with some very pretty piano, then full-on onslaught of a
very rocking band. Has a feeling of
grandness in the music. Very competent
male rock vocalist sings a song of fighting for survival in a war-like
setting. Helloween “Longing” Acoustic guitar strumming and
mournful lyrics are sung by another powerful vocalist. Nice, strings provide a bolster and interest
to the piece. I think this is my
favourite that I’ve heard from you, Cristi and they are both very different
from each other. Well done!
Michael Kiske sings in both songs.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 12:57
Cristi wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
Cristi:
Place Vendome “Streets of Fire”
The piece begins with some very pretty piano, then full-on onslaught of a
very rocking band. Has a feeling of
grandness in the music. Very competent
male rock vocalist sings a song of fighting for survival in a war-like
setting. Helloween “Longing” Acoustic guitar strumming and
mournful lyrics are sung by another powerful vocalist. Nice, strings provide a bolster and interest
to the piece. I think this is my
favourite that I’ve heard from you, Cristi and they are both very different
from each other. Well done!
Michael Kiske sings in both songs.
I guess I didn't read your description that well (or remember). I started to listen then had to stop and come back later and start again, without reading it again, lol. So much for my short-term memory! I did enjoy these, thanks, Cristi!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 13:02
Just lost my post Doug. It was longer and more explanatory. I'm just looking for two selections that contrast with each other (they can be opposites in some way, but don't need to be). I meant to be pretty open in how one might approach this, and went for some humour that didn't work. I like to leave room for individual interpretation and approach and see the approach that others take (this is very common with me when I make topics). I'd often rather that people think a little out of a box than box people in. I can add those since no one has voted yet.
I can do super vague and hard to decipher, but I actually thought this was reasonably clear and offered a lot of flexibility and variance in approach.
"Each of your two choices should contrast with each other (a sort of yin and yang dualist proposition). This does not mean that they must be opposites per se, such as hard vs. soft, aggressive vs. gentle, happy vs. sad, consonant vs. dissonant and so forth, but they should feel quite tonally different to you and at least provide some interesting contrast from your perspective."
I have added your choices.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 13:24
Logan wrote:
Just lost my post Doug. It was longer and more explanatory. I'm just looking for two selections that contrast with each other (they can be opposites in some way, but don't need to be). I meant to be pretty open in how one might approach this, and went for some humour that didn't work. I like to leave room for individual interpretation and approach and see the approach that others take (this is very common with me when I make topics). I'd often rather that people think a little out of a box than box people in. I can add those since no one has voted yet.
I can do super vague and hard to decipher, but I actually thought this was reasonably clear and offered a lot of flexibility and variance in approach.
"Each of your two choices should contrast with each other (a sort of yin and yang dualist proposition). This does not mean that they must be opposites per se, such as hard vs. soft, aggressive vs. gentle, happy vs. sad, consonant vs. dissonant and so forth, but they should feel quite tonally different to you and at least provide some interesting contrast from your perspective."
I have added your choices.
Heh Logan...I 'm getting too old..I even forgot your were the OP on this one.
Well...as I said they are different in style for me and two ways to approach love and relationships.
I hope they fit the bill.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 13:34
dr wu23 wrote:
Logan wrote:
Just lost my post Doug. It was longer and more explanatory. I'm just looking for two selections that contrast with each other (they can be opposites in some way, but don't need to be). I meant to be pretty open in how one might approach this, and went for some humour that didn't work. I like to leave room for individual interpretation and approach and see the approach that others take (this is very common with me when I make topics). I'd often rather that people think a little out of a box than box people in. I can add those since no one has voted yet.
I can do super vague and hard to decipher, but I actually thought this was reasonably clear and offered a lot of flexibility and variance in approach.
"Each of your two choices should contrast with each other (a sort of yin and yang dualist proposition). This does not mean that they must be opposites per se, such as hard vs. soft, aggressive vs. gentle, happy vs. sad, consonant vs. dissonant and so forth, but they should feel quite tonally different to you and at least provide some interesting contrast from your perspective."
I have added your choices.
Heh Logan...I 'm getting too old..I even forgot your were the OP on this one.
Well...as I said they are different in style for me and two ways to approach love and relationships.
I hope they fit the bill.
No worries, they definitely fit the bill for me (although I could add that if they fit the bill for you, then they do for me).
Just as an aside, I mentioned Yin and Yang in my opening post largely as an excuse to put some Bauhaus lyrics in the acrostic I had in the poll options which strangely amuses me "Yin and yang lumber punch. Go taste a tart, then eat my lunch." I was wondering if anyone would get that In the Flat Fields reference (I had planned for that to be my choice, but then forgot -- I was seriously multitasking when I did the topic). I only got into Bauhaus because of the opening scene in The Hunger (with Bela Lugosi's Dead).
I had like four possibilities lined up, and think my first three worked better.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 25 2021 at 17:23
And one more, just in time:
dr wu23: The Byrds “Everybody’s Been Burned” I have not heard this in ages. What a great song, country/folk with a little bit of the psych/blues feel to it, very wistful. Superb vocal, an understated mid-section lead and soft, sweet production, like they used to do. A dreamy, sort of smoky reflective piece. James Gang “Tend My Garden” Swelling organ starts the piece and strummed, washy guitars. An invitation song, another I haven’t heard in a really, really long time. Piano lead in the middle of the tune, and sustained guitar lead. Great juxtaposition between the two pieces.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 26 2021 at 16:41
Some comments on the first songs.
Logan
"Lipstick to the Void": It's like a mix between experimental electronic music and post-1945 avant-garde music. Towards the end it gets a sort of eastern flavour. I like it a lot. Contender. "Disney Town": The intro doesn't sound worlds apart from the previous track, but after that it turns into a more regular song with jazz/rock instrumentation. I'm not entirely sure how to categorize it, but that is meant as a compliment. Parts of it remind me of Portishead. Fine song, but I think I liked the first one better.
Shadowyzard
I used to watch Eurovision back in the day, but I became increasingly frustrated about the direction it has taken. I think it has very little to do with music anymore, and to be honest, the "Toy" winner was probably the final nail in the coffin for my part. I get that it was written as a MeToo anthem which is of course a positive thing, but sadly I find it too hysterical. It was especially frustrating for me since in the previous year, the contest was won by this song which I genuinely love: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JHt63PDc6Qc" rel="nofollow - http://youtube.com/watch?v=JHt63PDc6Qc
As for "What If We", I'd say it's a fine composition, and she sings it very well. The musical arrangement is a bit too pompous for my taste. I often prefer a more dry sound.
jamesbaldwin
"Carolyn" sounds quite americana to me. The chorus makes me think of "Carrie Ann" by the Hollies. It's a bit difficult for me to judge music like this, because it a bit far away from what I normally listen to. But I do like the folk elements, as well as the string arrangement. "Strange New World" is more rocky and much more me. It has a quite punky attitude and sound. Raw and unpolihed. Vocally he reminds me a bit of Michael Stipe. Should be a contender.
I prophesy disaster
"Grateful When You're Dead". More rock. I've heard of this band of couse, but I don't think I have ever heard their music before. Raw vocal performance, a lot of "spade" (electric guitar), and a slightly funky beat. Not something I listen to very often, but I like it. After 3 minutes, the song suddenly changes character. We get a slower tempo with bongos as the main rhythm instruments to a Pink Floyd'ish keyboard backdrop. Nice guitar work here too, which reminds me of Gilmour (f.e. the slide notes). It then builds up in intensity, and the song ends. "Sir Psycho Sexy": I already knew this one because back in the day I copied that album to a cassette tape which I still have. I'm not kidding. To be honest, RHCP doesn't ressonate as well with me today as it did back in the 90's. Also, the lyrics make me rather uncomfortable. But one can not deny we are speaking of one of the defining albums of the 1990's.
Lewian
"Algebra of the Sky": This one puts a smile on my face. The music is obviously dead serious, but serious music can have humor too. It is also fun to watch them turn the knobs and use their "instruments". Very mucy up my alley, and a strong contender. "Adnos I-III" is quite a different beast. Begins with an uncanny drone sound that suddenly ends abruptly, and a new one begins. It is rich in overtones. There are also some very off-key bell-like sounds, as well as some high-pitched "noise" in the background. I guess it would work well as backdrop music for an art installation. Very gripping, and another obvious contender.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 27 2021 at 14:31
And now for the second batch of songs.
TCat
"You Ain't Alone": She sounds quite a lot like Janis Joplin, but her voice seems a bit deeper. It's a similar sort of blues/soul/rock, but I think she is overdoing her vocal phrasings. She clearly has a good voice, but it's a style that Janis simply did better, and I also think she had better song material to work with. I like the sound of the band though. "My Mother is Not the White Dove" is more laid back. I like the very dry sound of the acoustic instruments (harp, strings, trumpet). The vocals are more down-to-earth. I'm not so keen on the whistle (flute?) which makes me think of new age. But overall I like it, and it appeals much more to me than the previous song.
Snicolette
"No Myth": Very 80's sounding recording, especially with the gated drums. Fine melody and vocals, I think I might have heard it before by the way. Not something I would normally listen to, but I do like it. "Hearts Ease" is an acoustic folk ballad. Contains harp, lute (?), flute, cello, and a viola? (I think it sounds too deep to be a violin). Or do they go all in with viola da gamba and things like that? I like it a lot.
mathman0806
"Prometheus": Acoustic bass guitar is not an instrument one encounters very often. Normally, that type of instrumental showing off does very little for me, but I of course acknowlege his technical skills. But I can't help notice that he tends to get a bit out of tempo, especially at the points where he is doing something difficult on the bass. "Nihil Strength": Very weird intro. Then enter a sort of industrial metal song for electronic instruments instead of the more traditional guitar, bass and drums. The music is clearly interesting, and many aspects fascinate me. I have some difficulties appreciating growl singing though, and consequently I like the instrumental parts best, espeically the one that comes after 2 minutes. I like this track much better than "Prometheus".
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 27 2021 at 14:47
The Anders wrote:
Snicolette
"No Myth": Very 80's sounding recording, especially with the gated drums. Fine melody and vocals, I think I might have heard it before by the way. Not something I would normally listen to, but I do like it. "Hearts Ease" is an acoustic folk ballad. Contains harp, lute (?), flute, cello, and a viola? (I think it sounds too deep to be a violin). Or do they go all in with viola da gamba and things like that? I like it a lot.
Glad you found them enjoyable....The first one did chart fairly well in the US, anyway, #13 in the Billboard Hot 100. He is Sean Penn's (the actor) brother. The second was a regular performer on the US Renaissance Faire circuit. Could very well be viola de gamba, with those folks (most are from another band on the same circuit, "Cantiga"), but I don't know if it is, or violin. Owain sadly died of pancreatic cancer in 2012.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 27 2021 at 15:49
The Anders wrote:
..."Lipstick to the Void": It's like a mix between experimental electronic music and post-1945 avant-garde music. Towards the end it gets a sort of eastern flavour. I like it a lot. Contender. "Disney Town": The intro doesn't sound worlds apart from the previous track, but after that it turns into a more regular song with jazz/rock instrumentation. I'm not entirely sure how to categorize it, but that is meant as a compliment. Parts of it remind me of Portishead. Fine song, but I think I liked the first one better....
Thanks Anders, and here I thought that "Lipstick to the Void" might be the one that would mean that my entries might get no votes (hadn't thought that one out rationally). I like it a lot. Music reminds me of many things, but is very reminiscent of Ligeti (like from 2001: A Space Odyssey with the Kubricked "Atmospheres") and the score to Psycho and it reminds me of Tangerine Dream's "Genesis" off its first album (TD having been inspired by Ligeti). The film itself, Under the Skin, actually reminds me of 2001 A Space Odyssey, especially in the entry, but also because of the music.
Disney Town is very much in the Portishead realm (along with Morcheeba and others) all operating at the same time with that kind of downtempo loungey and often jazzy sound in the 90s, and various on the dream pop and trip-hop (and chamber pop in various cases) side. For quite some time not long ago that was my main thing in music, with Portishead's Dummy being a primo album for me.
The commentary is much appreciated, and I appreciate how well people "get" (or grok I'd rather say) the music in these topics.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 28 2021 at 16:32
I won't go into substantive commentary. There were several other duos that I would have liked to give additional votes to, but these are my choices:
- Kottos & Elevation: I had heard Kottos, and while I appreciated it and have for a long time, it's Elevation which elevated this to must be on the podium. I love it. Very beautiful. It is not elevator music, it's elevated music.
- Algebra of the Sky & Adnos I-III: Algebra of the Sky provided interesting contrast but it's Ando 1-113 that [ad] nosed it to this position. I was listening to it last night in bed, and the hypnotic drone qualities resonated with me and the waves played with my brain waves. Also beautiful. By the way, Algebra of the Sky would be a good name for a math rock band. Ultimately I guess I could just not say adios to Adnos.
The Cynic & The Push: While I traditionally have not been that into Alt. Rock (in a more modern sense), was even quite cynical when it came to it at one time, or other alternative things such as the alt. right, alt. facts, or even Ctrl+Alt+Delete, I liked the artistic (art rock) stylings of both of these, and I like how they contrast. And I hear Indy qualities that I like. Push didn't need to come to shove to push this to the podium, and no cynicism here.
Thanks to all who contributed to this.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 28 2021 at 17:36
Logan wrote:
I won't go into substantive commentary. There were several other duos that I would have liked to give additional votes to, but these are my choices:
- Kottos & Elevation: I had heard Kottos, and while I appreciated it and have for a long time, it's Elevation which elevated this to must be on the podium. I love it. Very beautiful. It is not elevator music, it's elevated music.
- Algebra of the Sky & Adnos I-III: Algebra of the Sky provided interesting contrast but it's Ando 1-113 that [ad] nosed it to this position. I was listening to it last night in bed, and the hypnotic drone qualities resonated with me and the waves played with my brain waves. Also beautiful. By the way, Algebra of the Sky would be a good name for a math rock band. Ultimately I guess I could just not say adios to Adnos.
The Cynic & The Push: While I traditionally have not been that into Alt. Rock (in a more modern sense), was even quite cynical when it came to it at one time, or other alternative things such as the alt. right, alt. facts, or even Ctrl+Alt+Delete, I liked the artistic (art rock) stylings of both of these, and I like how they contrast. And I hear Indy qualities that I like. Push didn't need to come to shove to push this to the podium, and no cynicism here.
Thanks to all who contributed to this.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 28 2021 at 18:06
There were so many variables to this one, I found it easier to divide it into what I felt were the deepest "opposites," and then what I liked the best to listen to. My 3 votes are going to what I found most opposite from each other that I was unfamiliar with.
1. Just about as far apart from one another as you can get, at least for me. Dmitry Lisenko “Prometheus” Just fantastic acoustic bass playing here, with finger-snaps punctuating the piece. Amazing how much he gets out of four strings (and utilizing the body as well), it almost sounds like more than one person playing. John Renbourn has that same effect as a soloist, but in a very different way. Quite enjoyed that one. Author & Punisher “Nihil Strength” Sonic blast with lots of distortion and growly vocals. Siren-like sounds to a definitely punishing, relentless beat, with an abrupt ending. Certainly a yang to Dmitry’s more yin style. Radically unalike, to my ear.
2. These two were also ones of which I enjoyed both of the pieces the most, so it was hard to put it into second place, except that #1 was so radically apart from each other. Iannis
Xenakis “Kottos” Grangs and burps,
angry bees begin the piece, I quite enjoy the drony bits. More swoops and deep swirls and hard attack
with bow, the bees are not very happy, I tell you. I like that they have the actual music
accompanying the piece in the video, fun to watch along with it. This would be excellent as a film score for a
bomber attack, so far). Back to rapidity
about 4 minutes in, with some swoop sounds interspersed. Lots of dynamics from highs to lows, then
back to rapid bowing, sometimes on multiple strings. Ends with some
slippy-slidies on the strings. My old
dog, Beau, would not have approved of this piece, however, I find it rather
fascinating. Hildur Guðnadóttir “Elevation”
At under a minute, I already love this piece. Deep, tranquil bowing, rising and falling in
intensity throughout, no need to rush or display fireworks. Lovely.
3. These also were very apart from each other, similarly, to me, as my #1 choice for opposites. Chiara “What If We”Lovely, obviously trained voice, as you said, with a positive message, backed with soft orchestra.A crowd-pleasing sort of adult contemporary song, if there is such a category anymore.Flawless performance.Netta “Toy”Very modern sort of rap/hip-hop-ish song (if that’s what you call this style that pretty much everyone does these days) with a Latin rhythm.Definitey fits the opposite yin/yang theme, even though neither are “my” kind of music, I definitely prefer the first to this one, as lyrically it’s pretty much one note.I’d be a bit scared of her, lol.
Honourable Mentions truly, for everyone else, as I personally enjoyed at least one of them, if not both.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 28 2021 at 18:08
Thank you to Logan for the vote. Much appreciated. 'Alt rock' is just a term the music industry has invented to sell something as a bit exclusive. In my world it is just rock, and I don't think Kashmir would call themselves alternative anything. But what do I know...
Here are my comments on the last batch of songs.
suitkees
"Kottos". I am familiar with some work by Iannis Xenakis, but I hadn't heard this piece before. It is actually quite humorous with it's many glissandi, off-key notes and so on, but also rather uncanny - the part after 3:00 reminded me of an alarm siren. There's a hint at the absurdism that for instance Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen was also known for. But there is also a lot of beauty and poetry in it. Strong contender. "Elevation" is more like some experimental electronic music, just played with acoustic instruments. Basically a sonic landscape painting. Like the previous piece it uses glissando notes. It is also very minimalistic. Another strong contender.
Cristi
"Place Vendome". Melodic heavy metal. Fine track overall, but the singing style is not so much my taste. Musically I think I would have liked it better with a bit more variation, for instance some more breaks and silent passages. "Longing" is an acoustic ballad, it later becomes more bombastic, especially with the production. Again, not so much my taste, but I acknowledge its qualities.
dr wu23
"Everybody's Been Burned": I am familiar with some Byrds songs of course, but not this one. Very low-key track, and as such I'd say it's a bit unusual for its time. Interesting unrhythmic guitar solo. I like it a lot, and it should be a contender. "Tend My Garden": I only knew James Gang by name, so I had no idea what to expect. Early 70's sound. A bit middle of the road to my ears, but I like the organ, as well as the piano part from circa 3:00. The composition doesn't quite do it for me.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 28 2021 at 18:46
That’s just what my ears are associating it with, irregardless of whether it was a good term for the music industry to use and not based on reading anything about the music (just my impression, of the music, and I wanted to make a little joke). I think Prog is a silly term, but I still use it for music I hear and still use the term. And what is Prog to me might not be Prog to another.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 10:08
Got some - very pleasant - time this afternoon to listen to all the submissions and to comment on them, so here it goes:
Logan: Mica Levi - Lipstick to Void: I didn't like the film Under the Skin... That is, I quite liked the first 2/3 of it, but then it got ridiculous and grotesque for me (it is not the kind of cinema I prefer...). But this track is very intriguing; it creates a haunting athmosphere in its minimalism. Mono's Disney Town is indeed a nice contrast: they match quite well. This track comes as a kind of relief after the anguish. Nice listen! Shadowyzard: You said "I'm again coming up with the first thing that came to my mind." Please, next time think twice No seriously, for me the Eurovision Song Contest is more or less the rubbish bin of what Europe has to offer in music: lack of creativity, formulaic songs, but often an excellent execution of them (a showcase of singing talents where the music is just so-so). Every once in a while a song really stands out, but this is not the case with these two, imho. I find them uninspiring, unoriginal, but the performances are great. nick_h_nz: Never heard of Asian Death Crustacean, but this comes as a good surprise. I listend to your bandcamp link, don't know which track you would want to put forward but I could't help listen to all of the Baikal album. Very good! I first stumbled upon Baikal V, and then I wanted to hear the rest of the album...! And I actually have the same remarks for Seaorm's Olkhon album; very pleasant discovery too! They're maybe not that much yin and yang to me, but they do team up quite well together. Thanks! jamesbaldwin: Steve Wynn, yes, a great catchy song with Carolyn, and you're right: the arrangements are wonderfully effective. There is a similar compactness in the songwriting of Strange New World, but this one has the rough edges instead of the polished approach of the first song. Great playing and arrangements on both tracks. The contrast is clear, the quality too! It's more straight forward but I like these very much. I prophesy disaster: Two great bands that I don't listen to, actually. I very much like this track by Kula Shaker; it rocks and then gets into a more psychedelic stance. Wonderful. Both this one and RHCP's Sir Psycho Sexy are very 90s sounding, but the latter remains stylistically in the 90s (apart from the mellotron(-like) finale) where Kula Shaker pours a 70s flavour over their track. Maybe not very contrasting but an interesting pair (of which I prefer Kula Shaker).
The Anders: With Kashmir we continue a bit in 90s style indie-rock (although both tracks are of the noughties). The first track, The Cynic is the rocker, rather straight forward but quite captivating. It does indeed contrast with the tenderness of The Push, a beautiful song but which somehow keeps the signature of the band. Interesting match and great encounter with this band (don't remember having heard them before...).
Lewian: Ah ah ah... Here we go again Can you explain why this fascinates us? I like the ping-pong nervousness of The Langham Research Centre (I actually never explored their work...) and it contrasts well with Eliane Radigue's prepare-for-a-moon-landing meditation of Adnos. Great choices!
TCat: Alabama Shakes deliver us a kind of back-to-basics blues rock song, and yes what a voice to deliver it. Soul and emotion -great! But Arcane's My Mother is not the White Dove steals the show here for me. What a beautiful song! Great arrangements and production (a nice profound bass sound...) and the singing is wonderful too. Very different from the first, but both transfer emotion in a powerful way. Arcane is for me the highlight, though.
Snicolette: Interesting match of singer-songwriters. Michael Penn, the more modern pop-rock one while Owain Phyfe goes back in time with a more troubadour-like style. I actually don't know if Penn's song did something here in Europe, but listening to it it should have been a hit. Catchy song, great arrangements and playing... what's not to like? I also love the troubadour style of Phyfe. Never heard of him, but this one makes us time travel. Beautiful.
mathman: Interesting match of solo artists! Wonderful playing by Dmitry Lisenko, impressive to watch and a really good song just coming out of a bass guitar. Author & Punisher is intriguing. I don't like the growling, but musically it is to me very interesting: a kind of minimalist industrial tinge that appeals to me. Intriguing but I'm not sure if I also really like it, but it is good enough to want to explore more of him, just to find out.
suitkees: Crap! They just don't know how to play a cello and in the other one they're just caressing it...
Cristi: Ah, Place Vendôme really sounds good. It's rather straight forward hard rock to my ears, but it works for me - great singing and playing, well written song. Although not surprising it is very solid and captivating. Nicely paired up with Helloween's ballad Longing: a beautifully orchestrated song. Don't know from when this one is, but to me it's up to Helloweens' best.
dr_wu23: Great choices! Love this song by The Byrds: beautiful melody and playing and very romantic. Haven't heard this one since a long time and it is maybe one of their songs that I like most. Never listened much to the James Gang, but I also love this song, a typical late 60s early 70s song - I mean typical of what I like from that period: just great rock with nice organ playing in it. Nice to hear again, because it's not necesarilly something I turn back to often, nowadays.
Now scratching my head to decide which ones to vote for...
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 11:40
My votes:
Lipstick to Void & Disney Town
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 11:52
Honorable mentions include "Strange New World", "Hearts Ease" and "Everybody's Been Burned".
In the end I think I am not that much of a fan of voting for duos, because in many cases I like one song much better than the other.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 12:04
Glad you enjoyed "Heart's Ease," The Anders.
In this one, I didn't necessarily vote for what I liked, more how I felt the poster juxtaposed two pieces next to one another. So I hear you on that, in particular, this time if I didn't vote "for" a duo, it had much less to do with what I enjoyed. I did like one or the other of everyones, though, so that's why I decided to base my voting the way I did.
and suitkees, I must tell you, I love reading your synopses, especially the ones you give to yourself.
Plus, everything pretty much that Owain Phyfe recorded is available on YT, should you care to further explore him.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 13:58
-jamesbaldwin-Carolyn and Strange New World ....I was a fan of Dream Syndicate back when I was a young man of 33 so these two tracks resonated with me...sadly I no longer own Medicicne Show ,Wynns early band ...another lp that got lost over the years before I kept track of my vinyl.
-Tcats-You Aint Alone and Mother Is Not... I like the Alabama Shakes....many of the new alt blues rock bands who are fun to listen to ...Mother Was...... not something I would get hooked on but still very interesting
-snicolette-No Myth and Hearts Ease.....I used to have that Penn lp...liked it..don't recall where it went after all this time..
the Hearts Ease trad ballad was beautiful..I like those old folk things , early lute songs, and madrigal type things... etc...
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 14:49
^ I really liked "Everybody's Been Burned & Tend My Garden". That's a particular one where I regretted not giving it a vote.
While I recognised that "this approach might very well lend itself to a listener liking one of the selections while disliking the other" I had been planning to do duos or short song trios for this round for a long time. Of course Lorenzo did duos last round. I've done polls like that at PA before and received complaints when they were done as duos of contrast (but then I went quite extreme in the contrast, so it would not surprise if someone hated one selection and loved the other). Done in fun in the extreme case, but also I was curious to see how people would approach it. I thought also about doing a lightning round where we are back to nominating one and limited to one week.
I wouldn't want a duos approach to become the standard. I hope people will come up all sorts of challenges and twists in this series, which will make people think about how they will approach their nominations and develop strategies for how they will vote. For me it's not just about finding and sharing music we like, but is the whole process and the challenges that come with it. Every one has been challenging and creative in its own way.
By the way my last post didn't come out quite right. Alternative Rock isn't something that I very much associated with Kashmir (reminded me of some "Indie Rock" too I like whether one likes the term or not), though my mind does tend to automatically subcategorise based on ones they remind me of no matter how vaguely, and if alt. rock in any way (and at least I'm not calling it vanilla rock), then it is not the kind that I ever would have taken issue with, but this silly stab at humour came to mind (control alt delete etc.) and I ran with it. So instead of being substantive, the alt.rock association I made (even if not much thought out) was serving an intended joke that worked in my head, but not well in text (or at least not in my text).
It is kind of interesting, Anders, that we voted for two of the same, and the other was for each others option.
I did partially consider how they juxtaposed to me. At one time I was thinking, because I listened to all a few times on different days, this is really tough cause there were many duos that I could have gone with depending on my approach, but all three duos I voted for did work together for me. In the case of Kee's choice, Elevation was the standout (and my personal favourite of this poll) and with Lewian's Adnos I-III is the one that pushed me in that duo direction (listening to it at night with my closed I really appreciated it).
All interesting choices and approaches.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 15:11
Don't worry, I got the joke about ctrl alt delete :)
Quite a lot of the music I listen to is often categorized as alternative or indie, but it's just not words I use very often.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 15:49
I'm gonna listen and vote tomorrow
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 15:56
dr wu23 wrote:
-snicolette-No Myth and Hearts Ease.....I used to have that Penn lp...liked it..don't recall where it went after all this time..
the Hearts Ease trad ballad was beautiful..I like those old folk things , early lute songs, and madrigal type things... etc...
I do still have that Medicine Show LP! We do have a lot of the same musical taste, I'm always intrigued to see what you bring forth. Glad you enjoyed "Heart's Ease." As mentioned above, Owain's work is easily found if you want to listen to more.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 15:59
suitkees wrote:
Cristi: Ah, Place Vendôme really sounds good. It's rather straight forward hard rock to my ears, but it works for me - great singing and playing, well written song. Although not surprising it is very solid and captivating. Nicely paired up with Helloween's ballad Longing: a beautifully orchestrated song. Don't know from when this one is, but to me it's up to Helloweens' best.
Streets of Fire is the title song of Place Vendome's 2009 album.
Longing is on Helloween's 1993 album, the controversial Chameleon. I like that album, but metalheads often dislike it.
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 16:30
My podium:
1) No Myth & Hearts Ease : angelic music
2) Grateful When You're Dead / Jerry... & Sir Psycho Sexy: very good elaborate and rhythmic music
3) You Ain't Alone & My Mother is Not the White Dove: heartland music, great performances
Honorable mention:
4) The Cynic & The Push: until the end competing for the bronze medal
Special mentions:
* Special mention by the critics for the noise avant-garde:
Algebra of the Sky & Adnos I-III
** Special mention by critics for contemporary cultured music:
Kottos & Elevation
*** Special mention by critics for music that explores the boundaries of instrumental technique:
Prometheus & Nihil Strength
****Special mention by critics for music relaxes and lulls you into a state of receptive emptiness:
Lipstick to Void & Disney Town
But every pair of songs was good.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 17:02
I'll be voting tomorrow; and the next day, unleash my own poll and conquer the universe.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 29 2021 at 17:17
jamesbaldwin wrote:
My podium:
1) No Myth & Hearts Ease : angelic music
But every pair of songs was good.
So glad you enjoyed! if I had approached this one as just music I liked, certainly your two would have been there, I enjoyed very much hearing Steve Wynne again.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 30 2021 at 07:46
this is hard, with duo songs option, one of the songs stands out and the other one not so much, makes voting really hard
my choices for now
The Cynic & The Push
Everybody's Been Burned & Tend My Garden
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 30 2021 at 18:24
A few comments for a starter:
Logan: I love both of these, as you could maybe imagine. Lipstick to Void has some proper quality, it's not just functional. The Mono one is even better. Of course as a Broadcast fan I was going to like this. I was thinking about buying the album, but unfortunately it doesn't all reach this standard.
Shadowyzard: I was actually tempted to vote for this pair because although I'm not the biggest fan of the music, I like your approach to this. In the past I occasionally listened to the Grand Prix Eurovision and thinking about what's best and why just can make it fun. In fact I must say I don't agree with you. I don't have problems with the first song, but I think the singer's voice is not quite up to it, and also I'd have thought there are three instances of this kind of thing in every competition. The second one, well, I can see how to easily criticise this and in fact I don't like the song much, but the vocal performance is outstanding, and it has some more originality.
suitkees: Well, yeah, I'm not disappointed. Although I've got to say the major contrast for me is that I couldn't get into the Xennakis one at all, whereas Elevation is stunning. Let's see whether that's enough for a vote, but Yin and Yang for sure...
Not sure whether I'll find the time to comment on them all, but some others that I love are My Mother is not the White Dove, Heart's Ease, and the Prometheus/Nihil Strength combination... not sure yet whether I'd say I like them, but they work very nicely together and for sure they kept me interested. And Kashmir is also still in the race.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 31 2021 at 03:48
It's Sunday morning, the sun is shining, the cat is flying in the garden chasing birds (don't worry, she's flying too low to catch them...), the coffee is... well finished while listening to the playlist. Thanks George for this and thanks also for the wonderful surprise: the mashup mix between The Monkees and Iron Maiden.
I'll have to listen to all this again, because even Author & Punisher's growling starts to grow on me... damned...
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 31 2021 at 06:01
suitkees wrote:
It's Sunday morning, the sun is shining, the cat is flying in the garden chasing birds (don't worry, she's flying too low to catch them...), the coffee is... well finished while listening to the playlist. Thanks George for this and thanks also for the wonderful surprise: the mashup mix between The Monkees and Iron Maiden.
I'll have to listen to all this again, because even Author & Punisher's growling starts to grow on me... damned...
Whoops. I meant to save that mashup to another playlist. Even though most of you have voted, I just added Cristi and dr wu23's entries. Had been away from this. I will be voting later today. And then check out the next one!
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 31 2021 at 07:46
Now, I have to get rid of this... Out of the 12 options I could vote for there are 10 contenders. So, what to do? My votes are thus a bit arbitrary and I tried to make it reflect the eclecticism of the music put up here:
- You Ain't Alone & My Mother is Not the White Dove: With Alabama Shakes we're maybe a bit too much in an imitation game, but it is highly effective. It is especially Jane Siberry's/Arcane's track that is the highlight of everything put up here. And both convey in a very different way a powerful emotion.
- No Myth & Hearts Ease: quality singer/songwriter pop-rock (very effective) vs. singer/songwriter troubadour travels (I listened to Owain phyfe's album today; quite nice, but Heart's Ease is maybe the best song on it...)
- Wouldn't think this after a first listen, but Prometheus & Nihil Strength is an intriguing couple: The playing skills of the first vs. the inventiveness of the second. Maybe they're not the best of this competition, but they are both fascinating (maybe some day I will start to like growling...).
Have been hesitating between many others... My hard-rocking me popped up this week-end, so I could have chosen Place Vendôme and Helloween. I really loved the Kula Shaker song, beautiful homage to Jerry Garcia/The Grateful Dead. I had to disqualify Lewian because he hacked my musical brain (by lack of real reason... )... and so forth, and so forth... It was a great pleasure listening to all suggestions!
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 31 2021 at 09:44
I left in the mashup on the playlist and tacked on the individual songs as they do make for an interesting duality that mashed well together.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 31 2021 at 15:58
I must vote for Lipstick to Void & Disney Town, this looks as if it was put together just in order to grab my vote, and of course it'll do so.
For votes no. 2 and 3 it's between four others.
Kashmir is pretty good, didn't know them and like the first song a lot. The Push is OK but nothing all too special.
Would've said the same thing about No Myth at first listen, but this has a nice Beatles-like feel and is pretty catchy, so makes a great duo with the wonderful Heart's Ease.
Prometheus and Nihil Strength is the one that does most to widen my horizon. These require me to be in the mood, but ultimately I appreciate their boldness.
And then there's my Dutch-French friend suitkees (I hope you don't take exception to the "Dutch-French" ), actually I see what Xennakis is doing there and it has something, and Elevation is exactly up my alley, so...
Kashmir is maybe a little bit behind but still it seems I need four votes...
Ultimately I must vote for the mathman, and between Nicky and suitkees I go for the two melodic songs on the mood of the day, tomorrow I could have voted differently.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 31 2021 at 16:02
Lewian wrote:
I must vote for Lipstick to Void & Disney Town, this looks as if it was put together just in order to grab my vote, and of course it'll do so.
For votes no. 2 and 3 it's between four others.
Kashmir is pretty good, didn't know them and like the first song a lot. The Push is OK but nothing all too special.
Would've said the same thing about No Myth at first listen, but this has a nice Beatles-like feel and is pretty catchy, so makes a great duo with the wonderful Heart's Ease.
Prometheus and Nihil Strength is the one that does most to widen my horizon. These require me to be in the mood, but ultimately I appreciate their boldness.
And then there's my Dutch-French friend suitkees (I hope you don't take exception to the "Dutch-French" ), actually I see what Xennakis is doing there and it has something, and Elevation is exactly up my alley, so...
Kashmir is maybe a little bit behind but still it seems I need four votes...
Ultimately I must vote for the mathman, and between Nicky and suitkees I go for the two melodic songs on the mood of the day, tomorrow I could have voted differently.
Thank you, glad you were in a melodic mood, even though I know what suitkees did IS right up your alley.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 31 2021 at 16:45
Tough one as usual. Went with these:
Lipstick to Void & Disney Town
The Cynic & The Push
Everybody's Been Burned & Tend My Garden
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 31 2021 at 19:31
So glad you enjoyed! if I had approached this one as just music I liked, certainly your two would have been there, I enjoyed very much hearing Steve Wynne again.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: February 01 2021 at 07:47
Sorry for the delay, and sorry for just mentioning the names of my winners this time. I just wasn't in the mood.
My votes go to:
1-) Logan: Lipstick to Void & Disney Town 2-) Lewian: Algebra of the Sky & Adnos I-III 3-) Cristi: Streets of Fire & Longing