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Posted: January 12 2018 at 04:14

How do you define "Modern" and better than what?

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Posted: January 12 2018 at 03:12

This thread is a loaded assertion/posit, IMHO.

I don't think modern prog vs classic prog should even be a thing. Era shouldn't matter. Real prog transcends the ages and is timeless. I have yet to hear anything that rivals the classic 70's stuff. I'm genuinely unimpressed by most modern bands because it sounds like they're trying to be prog instead of the style arising as a natural consequence of their passion for writing and playing.

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Posted: January 12 2018 at 02:04

It depends from what you consider "modern".

There was a lot of good prog in 90thies. Is it modern or ancient?

from modern bands who started after 2000x, I love Riverside, because they established their own style, and do not clone prog from 70thies

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Posted: January 11 2018 at 23:22

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Posted: January 11 2018 at 23:17

I like Knifeworld and Opeth and some Finnish bands after seventies. That´s all to me from modern prog and I don´t think they´re better than 60-70 prog.

Don´t like Dream Theater at all.

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Posted: January 11 2018 at 21:12

No, really I don't think modern prog is better. I do enjoy a lot of modern prog, and there are many great bands/albums/songs, but really I mostly think the 70's had something special that can't be easily recreated. Perhaps it was because many of the bands did their music without trying to do prog, but only wanting to do the music that they liked and loved, and now the idea of prog is very much in the mind of prog musicians, and the new ones try to do prog itself, and then they have to include the elements of prog just for the sake of making prog.
However, if I want to go along with the thread and mention the things (not just songs) that makes me think modern prog is better (I would rather say that it is worthy and just as great as the classic ones), it would be:
First, Dream Theater. OK, they are not so modern any more, but they are not from the original classic bands, and they are one of my very favourite bands. Actually, from my top 5, they are the only one that didn't start in the 70's. There are too many songs that I love from them, though I don't really think they did any full masterpiece albums, because they always include songs that don't really do it for me.
The album "The Final Breath before November" by Edison's Children is just sublime. So, if we want to give songs, it would be "Silhouette", which takes just about the whole album with all of it's segments.
Transatlantic with the album "The Whirwind". Once again, the whole album is supposed to be a single track, so it might just as well fit the criteria.
Perhaps Cast's song "El Puente".
Opeth's "The Drapery Falls". And that's what I can think of at the moment.

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Posted: January 11 2018 at 14:59

This and Spark in the Ether

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Edited by condor - January 11 2018 at 15:00

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	How do you define "Modern" and better than what?

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	This thread is a loaded assertion/posit, IMHO. I don't think modern prog vs classic prog should even be a thing. Era shouldn't matter. Real prog transcends the ages and is timeless. I have yet to hear anything that rivals the classic 70's stuff. I'm genuinely unimpressed by most modern bands because it sounds like they're trying to be prog instead of the style arising as a natural consequence of their passion for writing and playing.
	*"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021*

awaken77 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2008 Status: Offline Points: 374	Post Options Post Reply Quote awaken77 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 12 2018 at 02:04
	It depends from what you consider "modern". There was a lot of good prog in 90thies. Is it modern or ancient? from modern bands who started after 2000x, I love Riverside, because they established their own style, and do not clone prog from 70thies Edited by awaken77 - January 12 2018 at 02:05

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	Between The Buried And Me Haken Devin Townsend
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	I like Knifeworld and Opeth and some Finnish bands after seventies. That´s all to me from modern prog and I don´t think they´re better than 60-70 prog. Don´t like Dream Theater at all.

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	No, really I don't think modern prog is better. I do enjoy a lot of modern prog, and there are many great bands/albums/songs, but really I mostly think the 70's had something special that can't be easily recreated. Perhaps it was because many of the bands did their music without trying to do prog, but only wanting to do the music that they liked and loved, and now the idea of prog is very much in the mind of prog musicians, and the new ones try to do prog itself, and then they have to include the elements of prog just for the sake of making prog. However, if I want to go along with the thread and mention the things (not just songs) that makes me think modern prog is better (I would rather say that it is worthy and just as great as the classic ones), it would be: First, Dream Theater. OK, they are not so modern any more, but they are not from the original classic bands, and they are one of my very favourite bands. Actually, from my top 5, they are the only one that didn't start in the 70's. There are too many songs that I love from them, though I don't really think they did any full masterpiece albums, because they always include songs that don't really do it for me. The album "The Final Breath before November" by Edison's Children is just sublime. So, if we want to give songs, it would be "Silhouette", which takes just about the whole album with all of it's segments. Transatlantic with the album "The Whirwind". Once again, the whole album is supposed to be a single track, so it might just as well fit the criteria. Perhaps Cast's song "El Puente". Opeth's "The Drapery Falls". And that's what I can think of at the moment.

condor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 24 2005 Location: Norwich Status: Offline Points: 1069	Post Options Post Reply Quote condor Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: January 11 2018 at 14:59
	This and Spark in the Ether And yes, I have changed my mind. I have no idea how long this feeling will last. Edited by condor - January 11 2018 at 15:00