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aglasshouse 
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No stereotypes against Americans are false. I'm fat, loud, and obnoxious.
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SteveG
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Posted: July 01 2016 at 14:45 |
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Perhaps a better thread would be to ask if stereotypes originate from something true.
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A Person
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Posted: July 01 2016 at 14:35 |
 Dean wrote:
Modrigue wrote:
Logan wrote:
Q: How many gears does a French tank have?
A: 4 reverse and 1 forward, in case the enemy attacks from the rear. |
Ok, thanks... But I'm really sorry I swear I still honestly don't understand to which stereotype it refers, the relation with Frenchs or why it can be considered racist? It's the first time I hear this joke.
Or maybe this is a stereotype on Frenchs that I didn't know?
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It is a cheap joke rather than a stereotype. He/they are referring to the French surrender in 1940 after the British and French forces were beaten during the Battle of France - needless to say this stereotype is used by mostly by Americans and seldom by Brits (certainly not by any Brit who knows the history). |
yeah there is this idea that the French are "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" that has gotten into popular culture. People who think that though must not be very grateful for them winning the revolutionary war for us.
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SteveG
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Posted: July 01 2016 at 14:00 |
Dean wrote:
It is a cheap joke rather than a stereotype. He/they are referring to the French surrender in 1940 after the British and French forces were beaten during the Battle of France - needless to say this stereotype is used by mostly by Americans and seldom by Brits (certainly not by any Brit who knows the history).
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Dean, my dear chap, you couldn't be more wrong. We Americans have never felt that the French are cowards and have never made jokes to that effect. At least that I'm aware of. And I speak from long experience.
We Americans do, however, view the French as arrogant snobs who are hung up on their precious croissants. 
Edited by SteveG - July 01 2016 at 14:37
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CPicard
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Posted: July 01 2016 at 06:19 |
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Strangely, the positive stereotypes about France and Paris tend to annoy me, but I guess that's because I can see the darker stuff and the grim reality of living in Paris.
Also, I come from Marseille, and I'm somewhat fed up to see/hear/read people describing my hometown as a mix of Napoli, Detroit, the 70's New York and nowadays Syria: there are problems of poverty and violence (drug dealers shooting each others nearly every month), but most of its inhabitants can live rather peacefully without fearing everyday for their lives or their money like there were gangs in every street waiting with knives and kalashnikoves for the innocent passer-by!
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 17:50 |
Logan wrote:
The right to bear doughnuts is practically a constitutional right |
 We have bear doughnuts, but mostly in Yosemite as a novelty.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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MillsLayne
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 17:31 |
Man With Hat wrote:
I feel like America deserves whatever stereotypes it's acquired over the years. |
I was about to say the same thing.
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A Person
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 16:32 |
Logan wrote:
It's a poor joke, rather like:
Q: How many gears does a French tank have?
A: 4 reverse and 1 forward, in case the enemy attacks from the rear.
Atavachron wrote:
Oh come on, you guys are hella polite; if "Nincompoopish tomfoolery" is the worst thing you can say, that just proves it. (And what's this quiet mythology about Canadians and their doughnuts?)
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I must say, I felt like washing my mouth out with soap after uttering those words. It's no myth about doughnuts, we are a nation of doughnut loving, doughnut slinging people. Threaten to take away our dougnuts and there will be trouble. The right to bear dougnuts is practically a constitutional right, and if it isn't, it should be. Our national anthem here is practically, "You've always got time for Tim Hortons". No joke, I ate three today (well yesterday, since it's almost 3:00 am). Like with coffee, nowadays, we've got the cheap doughnuts for the hoi polloi and the really upscale, gourmet doughnuts for the hoity toity, I want my chocolate truffles made out of real truffles, crowd. |
Tim Hortons is not the best but the frozen capp thing is pretty addictive. I rarely go to Tim's though.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 15:33 |
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I feel like America deserves whatever stereotypes it's acquired over the years.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 14:38 |
Logan wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
Oh come on, you guys are hella polite; if "Nincompoopish tomfoolery" is the worst thing you can say, that just proves it. (And what's this quiet mythology about Canadians and their doughnuts?) |
I must say, I felt like washing my mouth out with soap after uttering those words. It's no myth about doughnuts, we are a nation of doughnut loving, doughnut slinging people. Threaten to take away our dougnuts and there will be trouble. The right to bear dougnuts is practically a constitutional right, and if it isn't, it should be. Our national anthem here is practically, "You've always got time for Tim Hortons". No joke, I ate three today (well yesterday, since it's almost 3:00 am). Like with coffee, nowadays, we've got the cheap doughnuts for the hoi polloi and the really upscale, gourmet doughnuts for the hoity toity, I want my chocolate truffles made out of real truffles, crowd. |
Nice. You should write a Canadian doughnut book, Greg. Donucks or something.
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 12:52 |
Modrigue wrote:
Logan wrote:
Q: How many gears does a French tank have?
A: 4 reverse and 1 forward, in case the enemy attacks from the rear. |
Ok, thanks... But I'm really sorry I swear I still honestly don't understand to which stereotype it refers, the relation with Frenchs or why it can be considered racist? It's the first time I hear this joke.
Or maybe this is a stereotype on Frenchs that I didn't know?
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It is a cheap joke rather than a stereotype. He/they are referring to the French surrender in 1940 after the British and French forces were beaten during the Battle of France - needless to say this stereotype is used by mostly by Americans and seldom by Brits (certainly not by any Brit who knows the history).
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 12:24 |
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All stereotypes are crass, even positive ones
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Ozark Soundscape
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 12:08 |
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A lot of other countries' stereotypes about america are justified tbh.
I do hate how judgemental a lot of americans are about our southern states.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 10:31 |
Modrigue wrote:
All Frenchs buy baguettes and wear a beret... False. |
Actually all Frenchs buy baguettes and wear scarves. 
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Dean
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 10:15 |
Yeah, we know. 
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 10:05 |
All the stereotypes about Americans are true.......everyone watches NASCAR, owns guns, and drinks Miller Lite beer.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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progaardvark
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 07:22 |
Logan wrote:
1. Canadians live in igloos: sometimes, but come late July our igloos melt and we move into Tim Hortons until winter sets in in late August.
2. Canadians drink copious amounts of beer and are always eating back-bacon: Incorrect, we also eat side-bacon.
3. Canadians are polite: What a witless thing to consider. Nincompoopish toomfoolery!, though perhaps I am being too harsh.
4. We all play hockey: most of us just watch hockey on TV from the comfort of our igloos while swigging beer and eating back and side-bacon.
5. We like fish in our drinks: Actually, true. A Caesar is a popular cocktail made with vodka and Clamato (Clamato is a tomato based drink that has clam broth in it). We like to chase it down with beer (while watching hockey in our igloos of course). |
One thing I have always admired about Canadians is their amazing sense of humor. I'm a big fan of Tim Hortons. Always have to stop at one when I'm in New York State. Still don't have a passport to get into Canada; but before 9/11 always enjoyed trips to Toronto. I have some distant relatives in Alberta and British Columbia that immigrated from County Antrim, Northern Ireland a long, long time ago.
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progaardvark
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 07:15 |
ALotOfBottle wrote:
Poles can't speak languages... I guess this one is founded....
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In my experience, I have met two Poles that speak English very well. One is a colleague at work that was born in Poland, but is now a U.S. citizen; the other is an archivist and genealogist that came into the U.S. to give a lecture on Polish genealogy last year. Two branches of my family immigrated to the U.S. from the villages of Borek Wielki and Krzywa (both in Podkarpackie) between 1899 and 1910. I don't know how well my great-grandparents spoke English as both died before I was born. Admittedly those are the only Poles I have met in person.
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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag
that's a happy bag of lettuce
this car smells like cartilage
nothing beats a good video about fractions
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zappaholic
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 07:04 |
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Here's a stereotype about Americans that happens to be true:
"A European says: I can't understand this, what's wrong with me? An American says: I can't understand this, what's wrong with him?" -- Terry Pratchett
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Modrigue
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Posted: June 30 2016 at 05:32 |
^^Ok... I learned something today...
BTW, concerning Frenchs going on strike, it's rather due to French constitution than to a genuine French mentality. Very few employees are syndicated in France, but the importance of strikes is inversely proportional.
Edited by Modrigue - June 30 2016 at 07:14
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