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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2018 at 05:15
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:


Does this:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112629

mean that King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard have been assessed to be not suitable for inclusion on this site?

 
 
 


I obviously can't speak for the PSIKE team, but my guess is that they're still evaluating the Gizzards...maybe waiting out for possibly new material that qualifies them for inclusion.
Some times these things take time. The team has a bunch of other bands on their table as well, and if the band in question furthermore is borderline, then you need to be a little patient
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I heard that the leader, Stu MacKenzie, learnt to play a Turkish instrument, the baglama, which plays in quarter-tones, and ask a friend to modify his guitar to be able to play micro-tonal.

IMHO, this fact alone shows a way of thinking and playing much more progressive than many so-called modern prog bands, in the sense of it makes "rock progress", and adds a point to the inclusion of this band on PA, at least in Prog Related category...


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Points: 4801 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2018 at 18:05

Does this:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112629

mean that King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard have been assessed to be not suitable for inclusion on this site?

 
 
 
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Points: 4 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2018 at 17:05
Recently discovered them and came here to check their discography, was kind of surprised to find this thread instead. But anyway, I felt compelled to log in after several years just for the sake of vouching for them.
The albums from last year all have such a diverse set of soundscapes, lot of them remind me of Gong and other canterburish bands, yet there is a loot of jazz and psychedelia (and more) going on there. Complex time signatures and song/album structures are also prominent.
What I don't know is.. where to put them? Psych sounds like a good choice, but from the previous 5 albums, you could say they are also very eclectic. 


Edited by ultracoola - February 15 2018 at 17:09
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I've heard.  I like it.  But its not Prog.   The Shins, Ween, Broken Bells, Neutral Milk Hotel, String Cheese Incident, Fleet Foxes, and Jellyfish are as Prog as King Gizzard and Lizard Wizard.  That being said, if you have to stick them in Progarchives I suggest Prog-Related. Maybe... 




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Just entered this forum for the first time in years to give my +1 for adding King Gizzard to Archive. I know, that the topic of KGALTW was discussed some time ago, but during 2017 they released 5 albums from which at least 3 are pure progressive rock albums. The band has garage sound, which is not so common in the genre, but they put it into prog-rock song and album structures. Long suites, changing time signatures, jazzy and oriental influences, rich arrangements with unusual instrumentation put together in the form of concept album with strong narration. What more to expect from progressive rock music? Please reconsider them.

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I don't envy the Psych team on this one, sounds like Hawkwind revisited but one could argue pure psychedelic rock instead of psych-prog. Anyway, sounds good
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2018 at 05:50
Disregarding the whole pork discussion here's a current live clip off of jootoob. Damn these guys can play with a drive and groove that really connects with me. I am most definitely going to see them come March. In fact I can't wait. Let's hope they bring the same energy as they exhibit here:
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2018 at 02:46
Pitchfork also believes that Animal Collective and Fleet Foxes are prog so I guess that disqualifies them right off the bat
Nahh just pulling your leg.
Oh and please keep in mind the PSIKE team, just like any other here on PA really, solely bases its evaluation on the music of KGATLZ...not how other sites view them
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Multiple media outlets refer to KGATLW as prog: The Sydney Morning Herald refers to their "prog rock forebears" and Pitchfork media say they are "knee deep in prog rock".

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/king-gizzard--the-lizard-wizard-review-kings-of-pyschrock-are-ego-free-20171124-gzs6ii.html

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/king-gizzard-and-the-lizard-wizard-polygondwanaland/
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A small group of regular people who impose their own understanding of the genre and accordingly work on bettering the database in the best possible way they can manage. That's it really.
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because there isn't any dogma given for that, simple as that
every member, every collaborator has a differing view on what prog is about
teams have to decide, we have rules, the genre definition as a guideline, as a rough orientation
we are discussing, we try to reach for unanimous decisions, we are unsalaried, we are humans, not machines ...



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Points: 18301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2018 at 16:35
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Very good band but not prog.   Just my opinion.

When has that stopped other bands and artists from being included on here? Tongue
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Originally posted by katatonia katatonia wrote:

if you listen to their last 5 releases in 2017 it varies between psychedelia,krautrock,jazz fusion,psychedelic rock
Indeed! - often with a delightful middle-eastern twang to their riffing (but of course indo/raga is a bit of a stretch). Seriously, I really don't get how one can listen through their 2017-outings and somehow not think of King Gizzard as Progressive Rock. 
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Points: 112 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2018 at 16:23
if you listen to their last 5 releases in 2017 it varies between psychedelia,krautrock,jazz fusion,psychedelic rock
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Points: 6343 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2018 at 09:13
Very good band but not prog.   Just my opinion.
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Points: 11696 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2018 at 06:50
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Psychedelic/Space Rock - it's a no brainer.
I think one could also argue for their inclusion in Eclectic Prog.
But to me that's such a silly genre. Psych/Space actually means something and I think King Gizz fits nicely.
I'd be perfectly happy for them to be in Psychedelic/Space Rock. However, I suggested Eclectic Prog in recognition of the variety they exhibit in their music.
I'd be happy either way too really. But no matter how eclectic their approach, its always with some kind of psych-vibe. I think.
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Points: 112 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2018 at 17:25
well,after all it's time to add this amusing band
kinda like motorpsycho of australia
very creative
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

New album out today! Fifth album of the year! They made it! And its great stuff obviously. Gumboot Soup 
(not their proggiest but more progressive than... a lot of stuff)
 
After several listens, I give it a definite Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Psychedelic/Space Rock - it's a no brainer.
I think one could also argue for their inclusion in Eclectic Prog.
But to me that's such a silly genre. Psych/Space actually means something and I think King Gizz fits nicely.
I'd be perfectly happy for them to be in Psychedelic/Space Rock. However, I suggested Eclectic Prog in recognition of the variety they exhibit in their music.
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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