Print Page | Close Window

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard

Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=106646
Printed Date: December 02 2024 at 01:52
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
Posted By: Polymorphia
Subject: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
Date Posted: May 04 2016 at 23:21
A garage rock band definitely taking influence from prog. Their new album Nonagon Infinity is a 9 track suite that is created to be able to play in an infinite loop, not just in terms of key and tempo, but pacing as well. It has odd time signatures, recurring motifs, motoriks, ridiculous sci-fi lyrics. I think they belong somewhere on the site. I've not listened to their previous albums, but I know that their prog influence isn't new, however far they take it.



-------------
https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music



Replies:
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 10:30
Any thoughts on this?

-------------
https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 13 2016 at 03:48
Gotta love that Gamma Knife vid!! Druids doing rock is always enjoyable...and here oddly enamouringEmbarrassedLOL

As for PA purposes: I'm not sure I hear anything other than brilliantly played old school rock n roll with doomy psych and bluesy garage aesthetics.  

The second track won't play, but I found some jootoob clippings of my own that hopefully will help things alongSmile (which I haven't yet heard btw. I'll give em a whirl when I have time)


and I found another upload of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlcJHO5elFs" rel="nofollow - Nonagon Infinity which works for me.

P.S.
Whilst scribbling away I've had the album spinning and it does sound more...erm fickle and technical than Gamma Knife. Still sounds a little too close to pure blues based rock n roll for PA methinks. I don't mean that in a negative way. I love that stuff. 

Anyway, I will tap the PSIKE team on the shoulder in case they hear something I'm missingSmile




-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: May 13 2016 at 15:28
interesting band indeed ... anyway, what I've heard so far, describes a garage rock band adopting some rare prog characteristics ... though not vice versa a heavy psych prog band solely offering some garage expeditions ...



-------------
https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">



Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 19 2016 at 11:42
I was thinking crossover prog, actually, but I didn't know if they'd fit in anywhere else. I was listening to Renaissance at the time I suggested the band, and aside from "Song of Scheherazade," nothing strikes me as particularly more complex than these guys; however, David's right in that these guys stick to simpler and bluesier harmonic language than most, though Hawkwind strikes me in the same way, but are a bit spacier.

Any chance these guys might make it into crossover, you think?


-------------
https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music


Posted By: DreamsReign
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 23:06
Although I am new to this site, I must strongly recommend these guys be included. The issue is NOT whether Gamma Knife has prog inflections. The album NONAGON INFINITY as a whole is definitely prog. It is a 40 minute continuous rock symphony where the songs repeat musical themes and even (in Evil Death Roll) flash forward to future themes yet to occur. The album works seemlessly as a song cycle, in a way reminiscent of Shine on You Crazy Diamond, or perhaps The Incident by Porcupine Tree, and yet in a highly unique way. The album features the virtuosity of its members, particular it lead guitarist Stu MacKensie, but also their lead drummer. Their use of polphony, poly-rhythms and complex song structures (especially Evil Death Roll, but trust me the whole album IS a 40-minute epic in a similar vein to A Passion Play but actually even more organically interworked) is prog through and through. Like Pink Floyd, many will classify them as psychedelic, but the truth is that their symphony structuring and showcasing virtuosity makes them at least as much prog and psych. Please do not base any decision on one song like Gamma Knife - this is classic hard rock prog - look at the album as a whole. I can't emphasise strongly enough how much these guys deserve to be featured on this website - and the sooner the better since they are about to do Coachella and release a swathe more albums this year. Is there anything formal I can do to help the approval process?


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 11 2017 at 01:01
^ Relax, there's a careful process of addition, they may or may not be added.   Your "the sooner the better since they're about to start touring and promoting" comment doesn't help things.  

Retro vintage post-progressive.   But from the samples given so far, not really prog.   If added, I'd say Heavy prog.  



-------------
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 11 2017 at 02:15
I have bought three of their albums since commenting in this thread (including Nonagon Infinity) and have found exactly zero prog in their output. Doesn't mean they aren't great - merely that they aren't prog. More like deliciously played garage rock with psych aspirations.

-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: SamMac
Date Posted: January 12 2017 at 19:53
...


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 25 2017 at 04:44
After living with their most recent for a couple of months now I think it's fair to say that this band at least deserves a go from the psychedelically inclined prog rock connoisseur. I'll tap the PSIKE guys on the shoulder myself. Just thought I'd pop in here as well...and maybe sell you tomatoes farmed under the sea.

http://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/flying-microtonal-banana" rel="nofollow - Flying Microtonal Banana


-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 25 2017 at 08:18
I've actually heard of this band. I didn't realize they weren't already on here though. 


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 25 2017 at 13:07
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I've actually heard of this band. I didn't realize they weren't already on here though. 


neither did I, really

But my discovery of this band dates from two or three months ago, TBH... and I didn't bother to check the DB, partly because I wasn't sure they elonged, despite their obvious debt to Hawkwind.


Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: March 26 2017 at 08:43
I have added the band to our evaluation chart. This is a really tough case, as we generally are not  interested in opening the doors for alternative rock styled bands ...

new one 'Flying Microtonal Banana' is an enjoyable album for sure, will need some rounds ...
There are leanings towards the prog rock genre to state.
The garage style is still evident though, this partially krautrock/indo raga flavoured.
They themselves don't even claim to be a prog band as far as I can see.




-------------
https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">



Posted By: TheReachedDagger
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 03:45
Using elements of folk music heavily that belongs to a far culture (in flying mb) is absolutely a progressive idea. They don't fit in any style of music and don't limit themselves in any way. Also, they're extremely productive, so i'm sure they will make a lot of great albums in the future. In my opinion, this bands addition is necessary.


Posted By: RadioGnomeVisible
Date Posted: December 27 2017 at 18:05
Any updates with regard to adding them?  The albums they put out in 2017, particularly Polygondwanaland, are very proggy.  The band (along with Haken) tends to be mentioned a lot by younger progressive rock fans.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 28 2017 at 06:03
Try as I might I still don't hear this as prog. I love their last 5 albums but I struggle to see where they'd fit in.
Just because a band is popular among a certain age group that calls said band prog doesn't necessarily mean it belongs on PA. I've read many younger supposedly prog fans call Tame Impala, Coldplay, Fleet Foxes and Temples prog. If that is the yardstick these days then the Gizzards probably belong in avant.

Experimental garagey blues based rock n roll at its finest

-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: December 28 2017 at 16:00
^I primarily would agree to that, David, we should not expand the boundaries too much ...
though it's way way way more difficult, the last albums are very prog oriented for sure
they are a talented multi-varianted band, no doubt ... please let us take some time ...



-------------
https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">



Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 14:54
New album out today! Fifth album of the year! They made it! And its great stuff obviously.  http://https://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/gumboot-soup" rel="nofollow - Gumboot Soup  
(not their proggiest but more progressive than... a lot of stuff) 

To me, if anything King Gizz are overqualified for PA. Personally this is what a modern, progressive rock band should be about: undeniably rock but always stretching, always exploring, sprawling, ever-changing and fun! Hey they've got more complex time signatures than not! I'm sure both the band and I will survive without their PA-inclusion but why say no to our greatest hope for the future? 



Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 15:21
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Try as I might I still don't hear this as prog. I love their last 5 albums but I struggle to see where they'd fit in. 
Psychedelic/Space Rock - it's a no brainer.
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


Just because a band is popular among a certain age group that calls said band prog doesn't necessarily mean it belongs on PA. I've read many younger supposedly prog fans call Tame Impala, Coldplay, Fleet Foxes and Temples prog.
Totally indifferent to all of those
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

 If that is the yardstick these days then the Gizzards probably belong in avant.
Yeah? Well, I'll settle for psych/space
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


Experimental garagey blues based rock n roll at its finest
Wut no! Ok, but so is Captain Beefheart
 



Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 15:33
Hey Saper. Seems we're both digging the Gizzards. Thanks for the heads up on the new album. Much appreciated.

Well we obviously differ in opinion with regards to inclusion. Seems a bit like you just want your favourite new toy brought along to the birthday. Nahh just pulling your leg. One thing though, the eval process here is never about the quality of music but whether or not its prog.

I have no say in this matter though. I trust the team to make the decision. If they do get included I certainly won't lose any sleep over it. Like you, and Gloria Gaynor, I will survive

-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 16:00
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Seems a bit like you just want your favourite new toy brought along to the birthday. 
Exactly! And why won't you give it to me? No, I don't know - I thought "complex time signatures" worked like magic over here.   


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: December 31 2017 at 10:36
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Psychedelic/Space Rock - it's a no brainer.
I think one could also argue for their inclusion in Eclectic Prog.
 
But regardless of which subgenre, I think they definitely belong here in Prog Archives.
 


-------------
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 01 2018 at 08:43
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Psychedelic/Space Rock - it's a no brainer.
I think one could also argue for their inclusion in Eclectic Prog.
But to me that's such a silly genre. Psych/Space actually means something and I think King Gizz fits nicely. 


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 02 2018 at 10:23
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Psychedelic/Space Rock - it's a no brainer.
I think one could also argue for their inclusion in Eclectic Prog.
But to me that's such a silly genre. Psych/Space actually means something and I think King Gizz fits nicely.
I'd be perfectly happy for them to be in Psychedelic/Space Rock. However, I suggested Eclectic Prog in recognition of the variety they exhibit in their music.


-------------
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 02 2018 at 10:43
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

New album out today! Fifth album of the year! They made it! And its great stuff obviously.  http://https://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/gumboot-soup" rel="nofollow - Gumboot Soup  
(not their proggiest but more progressive than... a lot of stuff)
 
After several listens, I give it a definite Thumbs Up


-------------
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: katatonia
Date Posted: January 02 2018 at 17:25
well,after all it's time to add this amusing band
kinda like motorpsycho of australia
very creative


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 06:50
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Psychedelic/Space Rock - it's a no brainer.
I think one could also argue for their inclusion in Eclectic Prog.
But to me that's such a silly genre. Psych/Space actually means something and I think King Gizz fits nicely.
I'd be perfectly happy for them to be in Psychedelic/Space Rock. However, I suggested Eclectic Prog in recognition of the variety they exhibit in their music.
I'd be happy either way too really. But no matter how eclectic their approach, its always with some kind of psych-vibe. I think.


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 09:13
Very good band but not prog.   Just my opinion.


Posted By: katatonia
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 16:23
if you listen to their last 5 releases in 2017 it varies between psychedelia,krautrock,jazz fusion,psychedelic rock


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 05 2018 at 10:43
Originally posted by katatonia katatonia wrote:

if you listen to their last 5 releases in 2017 it varies between psychedelia,krautrock,jazz fusion,psychedelic rock
Indeed! - often with a delightful middle-eastern twang to their riffing (but of course indo/raga is a bit of a stretch). Seriously, I really don't get how one can listen through their 2017-outings and somehow not think of King Gizzard as Progressive Rock. 


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 10 2018 at 16:35
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Very good band but not prog.   Just my opinion.

When has that stopped other bands and artists from being included on here? Tongue


Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: January 11 2018 at 04:00
because there isn't any dogma given for that, simple as that
every member, every collaborator has a differing view on what prog is about
teams have to decide, we have rules, the genre definition as a guideline, as a rough orientation
we are discussing, we try to reach for unanimous decisions, we are unsalaried, we are humans, not machines ...



-------------
https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">



Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 11 2018 at 04:11
Exactomundo UweClap

A small group of regular people who impose their own understanding of the genre and accordingly work on bettering the database in the best possible way they can manage. That's it really.



-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: DreamsReign
Date Posted: January 17 2018 at 23:18
Multiple media outlets refer to KGATLW as prog: The Sydney Morning Herald refers to their "prog rock forebears" and Pitchfork media say they are "knee deep in prog rock".

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/king-gizzard--the-lizard-wizard-review-kings-of-pyschrock-are-ego-free-20171124-gzs6ii.html

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/king-gizzard-and-the-lizard-wizard-polygondwanaland/


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 18 2018 at 02:46
Pitchfork also believes that Animal Collective and Fleet Foxes are prog so I guess that disqualifies them right off the bat
Nahh just pulling your leg.
Oh and please keep in mind the PSIKE team, just like any other here on PA really, solely bases its evaluation on the music of KGATLZ...not how other sites view them

-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 18 2018 at 05:50
Disregarding the whole pork discussion here's a current live clip off of jootoob. Damn these guys can play with a drive and groove that really connects with me. I am most definitely going to see them come March. In fact I can't wait. Let's hope they bring the same energy as they exhibit here:



-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 18 2018 at 06:02
I don't envy the Psych team on this one, sounds like Hawkwind revisited but one could argue pure psychedelic rock instead of psych-prog. Anyway, sounds good


Posted By: epistan
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 08:48
Just entered this forum for the first time in years to give my +1 for adding King Gizzard to Archive. I know, that the topic of KGALTW was discussed some time ago, but during 2017 they released 5 albums from which at least 3 are pure progressive rock albums. The band has garage sound, which is not so common in the genre, but they put it into prog-rock song and album structures. Long suites, changing time signatures, jazzy and oriental influences, rich arrangements with unusual instrumentation put together in the form of concept album with strong narration. What more to expect from progressive rock music? Please reconsider them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLP8rFrL1W0


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 11:36
I've heard.  I like it.  But its not Prog.   The Shins, Ween, Broken Bells, Neutral Milk Hotel, String Cheese Incident, Fleet Foxes, and Jellyfish are as Prog as King Gizzard and Lizard Wizard.  That being said, if you have to stick them in Progarchives I suggest Prog-Related. Maybe... 




Posted By: ultracoola
Date Posted: February 15 2018 at 17:05
Recently discovered them and came here to check their discography, was kind of surprised to find this thread instead. But anyway, I felt compelled to log in after several years just for the sake of vouching for them.
The albums from last year all have such a diverse set of soundscapes, lot of them remind me of Gong and other canterburish bands, yet there is a loot of jazz and psychedelia (and more) going on there. Complex time signatures and song/album structures are also prominent.
What I don't know is.. where to put them? Psych sounds like a good choice, but from the previous 5 albums, you could say they are also very eclectic. 


-------------
...finding out at last that freedom is a state of mind...

But still not knowing how to get along with this mankind


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: February 15 2018 at 18:05

Does this:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112629" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112629

mean that King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard have been assessed to be not suitable for inclusion on this site?

 
 
 


-------------
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: February 16 2018 at 02:50
I heard that the leader, Stu MacKenzie, learnt to play a Turkish instrument, the baglama, which plays in quarter-tones, and ask a friend to modify his guitar to be able to play micro-tonal.

IMHO, this fact alone shows a way of thinking and playing much more progressive than many so-called modern prog bands, in the sense of it makes "rock progress", and adds a point to the inclusion of this band on PA, at least in Prog Related category...


-------------
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqf2srRfppHAslEmHBn8QP6d_eoanh0eW" rel="nofollow - My compositions


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 16 2018 at 05:15
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:


Does this:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112629" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112629

mean that King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard have been assessed to be not suitable for inclusion on this site?

 
 
 


I obviously can't speak for the PSIKE team, but my guess is that they're still evaluating the Gizzards...maybe waiting out for possibly new material that qualifies them for inclusion.
Some times these things take time. The team has a bunch of other bands on their table as well, and if the band in question furthermore is borderline, then you need to be a little patient

-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: April 12 2018 at 20:47
Any word on these guys? Or are they still sort of on the waiting list?


Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: April 12 2018 at 23:06
Looks like they've been rejected.

-------------
http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: zzchrisp
Date Posted: April 26 2018 at 06:14
How bizarre. It would be good to have an explanation. Listening to KGLW only yesterday and hearing a range of influences, predominantly Gong in this particular sitting. They are without doubt more akin to Progressive Rock than many already in the database including a significant amount of Prog' Related and Jazz/Fusion etc. I am confident that there are many people eagerly waiting for Collaborators to review their back catalogue and having such a resource on ProgArchives will allow people to explore their work. I am not a huge fan of KGLW but I am huge fan of ProgArchives and question what is behind the decision for total rejection.


Posted By: menpete
Date Posted: May 12 2018 at 07:29
This entire thread is hilarious to me. Is there a secret council that meets in a smoke filled room to define prog? If so, that is the most prog thing ever. 

I present one more case for King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - the best band on planet Earth today, by the way - The Gizzverse. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEIEmRyLPzY

Basically, around the time of the release of Nonagon Infinity two years ago, fans began realizing several Easter eggs in the bands songs, musical and thematic callbacks, as well as similar imagery on the band's record covers and videos. Fans speculated that this was by design, an attempt to create a unified narrative throughout the band's releases. When asked about this, frontman Stu Mackenzie confirmed its existence. From that point, the band has gone full bore in its attempt to tie together characters and story-lines throughout its subsequent releases. 

Whether accidental or not, King Gizzard is now knee deep in its own conceptual continuity. I would consider this a hallmark of prog. (And ultimately, who gives a f*** anyway).


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: May 19 2018 at 16:17
Haha, I suppose it can seem a bit pretentious. The reality is that no single person or group of people can absolutely and objectively define whether or not a band is prog or not. There will never be an official consensus on every single band that has ever been prog and every one that is not. ProgArchives looks to serve as a collection of as many prog artists and albums as possible; effectively, to serve as a database for the prog listener. However, they have to have some sort of system in place for the addition of new bands. If anyone were able to add an artist as they wish, it would render the site kind of pointless; past suggestions include Tame Impala, ...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of the Dead, XTC, The Damned, Chiodos, Thirty Seconds to Mars, Soundgarden, Green Day, hell, even Spinal Tap. Whether all, some, one, or none of these bands are prog is not my point (although I'd be happy to share my opinion if you wish); I'm just saying that without the current system, everybody and his/her/their cousin would be adding their favourite band as prog. 

Personally, I totally agree with you. I think that, especially from Nonagon Infinity onward, King Gizzard is a full-on prog band, and one of the greatest of the modern era. However, I'm not on the PSIKE team, and at the end of the day, they chose not to add it. Maybe they thought it was too close to the edge of being prog or not that it would open the door for bands that are definitely not prog to be added to the website. Maybe they just didn't hear it, or maybe they skipped over Polygondwanaland. At the end of the day, you're right; who gives a f***. ProgArchives does its job as a progressive music database extremely well, but no database is 100% comprehensive; it's not the end-all, be-all authority that it is often thought of as (though probably the closest we have to one), and if we want to continue thinking of King Gizzard as a prog band (which I intend to do), then we are at the complete liberty to do so.

Anyways, that was a bit of a wordy, half-pointless rant, but I just thought I'd share my thoughts on it.


-------------
I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!)

Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp !


Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: May 19 2018 at 20:51
I like King Gizzard. I would vote to include them on the site, potentially in the cross-over category


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: May 20 2018 at 07:20
Should be here by now IMO, and I say that as a non-fan of the Gizz. 

-------------
https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 01:02
Read the full thread. They were just rejected by the Psych/Space team. I agree that they belong here though.

-------------
I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!)

Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp !


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 01:38
These are the tags the band have under their bandcamp profile, also under Polygondwanaland:
alternative garage soul surf Melbourne

I think they're bang on....and that is coming from Denmark's biggest fan
Btw Gumboot Soup has really started to speak to me after the weather has changed for the warmer. Then again it was recorded during Aussie summer, so I guess it isn't that strange to have it complement summertime here in Scandinavia.

-------------
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 06:04
So one of the worlds leading progbands right now fails to get recognised as progressive rock at progarchives. Absurd. And really? - more soul, surf and garage than psychedelic, space rock, progressive rock, jazz-rock...? 

Genre tags for Polygondwanaland at RYM: 
 Psychedelic Rock, Progressive Rock, Space Rock, Krautrock, Acid Rock

Descriptors: 
uncommon time signatures, psychedelic, male vocals, progressive, mysterious, repetitive, epic, atmospheric, hypnotic, space, futuristic, existential, surreal, science fiction, concept album, complex

If one looks at their five/six latest albums I guess eclectic is probably what they are.




Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: June 06 2018 at 15:21
Dropped by PA to hear some clips of more recent King Gizzard albums to prepare for their upcoming gig in Austin, but......no KGWL?  File 'em under proto, space, Kraut, Canterbury, psych, eletic, fusion.....whatever, just find a place for 'em.

I'd file them along with the Grateful Dead under "Missed Opportunity" as in those who come to PA to discover new music will miss out on some absolutely groovy progressive rock.


-------------
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 08 2018 at 15:49
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

So one of the worlds leading progbands right now fails to get recognised as progressive rock at progarchives


i know right?


Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 08 2018 at 19:56
If they are definitely prog then one of their next albums will get them on the site. :) 

-------------
http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/



wtf


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: June 10 2018 at 01:13
My guess is that the Psych team looked at the time frame of their output, and saw that for their first several years, their albums were primarily psychedelic rock rather than progressive. Despite having released 6 (in my opinion) prog albums by now, it's only been two years. My guess is the same as Smurph's above: if they continue their musical trajectory into the world of prog, they will eventually land themselves on the site.

I will note again, though, that I fully agree with some of the previous points; I think King Gizzard is one of the greatest contemporary prog bands.


-------------
I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!)

Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp !


Posted By: jiminyCrikett
Date Posted: June 14 2018 at 12:16
I feel like the question isn't really whether or not they belong on this site, but where they fit. But everything you guys are saying about the timeline makes sense. I definitely hope they continue on their trajectory towards prog greatness and put out more albums like Polygondwanaland!


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: May 03 2019 at 13:24
A week ago, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard released their latest album, Fishing For Fishies :
 
 
 
 
Do you think this album increases or decreases their prog credentials? After listening to the album a few times, it seems to me that a few tracks decrease their prog credentials and a few tracks increase their prog credentials, but overall I am undecided (though leaning towards a decrease). The music on the album does seem to be a natural progression from their previous album, Gumboot Soup, although without the microtonal sounds.
 
 
 
 


-------------
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: May 03 2019 at 19:26
^ Regardless of their progressiveness, this album is definitely fantastic for me.

-------------
http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 04 2019 at 02:32
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

A week ago, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard released their latest album, Fishing For Fishies :Do you think this album increases or decreases their prog credentials? After listening to the album a few times, it seems to me that a few tracks decrease their prog credentials and a few tracks increase their prog credentials, but overall I am undecided (though leaning towards a decrease). The music on the album does seem to be a natural progression from their previous album, Gumboot Soup, although without the microtonal sounds.

FFF is certainly not prog but I think that's beside the point. Its just another album from a band who couldn't give a rat's ass about genres or labels - but who are progressive in spirit. Imo they've proven long ago both musically and in attitude that they belong here - more than most relatively successful contemporary bands related to rock. Personally FFF is my least favorite release of theirs post-Paper Mache Dream Ballon (which the cute title track and first heard "teaser" initially reminded me of) but still a fun album. The Cruel Millenial is kind of awful and I'm sort of hoping its ironic but the rest is enjoyable.

+ I got their next album sometime later this year to look forward to. Hoping for more enviromental thrash metal:




Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: May 19 2019 at 06:39
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

FFF is certainly not prog but I think that's beside the point. Its just another album from a band who couldn't give a rat's ass about genres or labels - but who are progressive in spirit. Imo they've proven long ago both musically and in attitude that they belong here - more than most relatively successful contemporary bands related to rock. Personally FFF is my least favorite release of theirs post-Paper Mache Dream Ballon (which the cute title track and first heard "teaser" initially reminded me of) but still a fun album. The Cruel Millenial is kind of awful and I'm sort of hoping its ironic but the rest is enjoyable.
I think the album gets proggier as it progresses. I very much enjoy the last three tracks, the second last track ("Acarine") being my favourite from the album. However, overall I prefer their previous album "Gumboot Soup" to this one.
 
 
 
 
 


-------------
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: May 26 2019 at 16:48
I'm quite surprised these guys aren't on the website yet, I mean at least 3 of their albums are certainly progressive rock. They're certainly more progressive than many artists already on the site. Come on now.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 26 2019 at 16:58
^ they've been cleared. This is a volunteer based site. Things move slow.

-------------

https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy


Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: May 26 2019 at 17:37
anyway ... come on now ...


-------------
https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">



Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 27 2019 at 04:04
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ they've been cleared. This is a volunteer based site. Things move slow.
Cool! Last we heard was that they were rejected - so we couldn't know things were just moving along slowly 


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: June 04 2019 at 18:14
Has anyone written a biography for the band yet? If not, I'd be happy to write one.

-------------
I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!)

Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp !


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 04 2019 at 19:15
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ they've been cleared. This is a volunteer based site. Things move slow.
Cool! Last we heard was that they were rejected - so we couldn't know things were just moving along slowly 

They probably were rejected. It's only their newer albums that qualify them.


-------------

https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 09:56
Do we know when they will be added? They've been cleared for a month now.

-------------
I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!)

Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp !


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 10:58
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

It's only their newer albums that qualify them.
 
What do you think of this (their second) album?:
 
 
AllMusic says that Morricone would have been proud of their efforts.
 
 
 
 
 


-------------
No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: July 10 2019 at 06:06
Bump

-------------
I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!)

Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp !


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 10 2019 at 09:02
Sketches of Brunswick East just entered the car cd player.

is it prog? I don't care...but sunny, hot and breezy indeed.

-------------



Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: August 17 2019 at 07:49
And they just released their thrash metal álbum! LOL

http://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/infest-the-rats-nest-2" rel="nofollow - http://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/infest-the-rats-nest-2


-------------
"Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen)


Posted By: ziltoid101
Date Posted: December 19 2019 at 19:13
Just wondering why one of the leading prog bands of this decade aren't on this site? Sure, some of their earlier efforts are closer to psych rock, but there really shouldn't be much of an argument on their status as a prog band. Just file them under psychedelic prog and call it a day (or even prog related would be better than nothing). 


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: December 20 2019 at 16:33
As mentioned above, they have in fact been cleared for addition to the psychedelic prog section. However, ProgArchives is run on a volunteer basis, so bands aren't always added right away, especially when they have such a large discography as King Gizzard has. Without more information as to what's going on behind the scenes, I personally think that's it's been quite a while and they should have had enough time to add them. However, we can never know what exactly the situation is, and it's entirely possible that the PSIKE team has simply been swamped and hasn't had the time to add such a large discography; given that it's a very small team of four members and they manage four sub-genres, I think this is most likely the case, and that we just have to give them more time. I'm sure they will get to it eventually; three of them voted in favour of addition, so it's not like the band is being snubbed.

-------------
I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!)

Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp !


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 20 2019 at 16:38
this might help
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/king-gizzard-and-the-lizard-wizard


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 20 2019 at 17:04
With so many fans around here of the band, we would appreciate the help in form of a biography.

On the site we like to provide biographies written by our members instead of copy pasting it from other resources and for a band like this that seems to be this eclectic and complicated it would be fair to write something that would do them justice, it can be intimidating and a lot of work to get into when you're busy and it's not a band that you're very well familiar with so you need to do a lot of exploring.

With that said, if a decent biography is provided, we can get the band added with all the the details that the page needs, like the albums, in a very short time, basically a matter of minutes.


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: January 01 2020 at 17:43
Update: The band has officially been added!!!

-------------
I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!)

Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp !


Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: January 01 2020 at 17:44
Originally posted by tempest_77 tempest_77 wrote:

Update: The band has officially been added!!!


YESSS

-------------
The sun has left the sky...
...Now you can close your eyes


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: January 02 2020 at 10:29
Originally posted by tupan tupan wrote:

And they just released their thrash metal álbum! LOL

http://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/infest-the-rats-nest-2" rel="nofollow - http://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/infest-the-rats-nest-2
 
And a pretty damn fine thrash metal album I might add Clap


-------------
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives

https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 02 2020 at 21:14
Funny how they got in and yet a much older band like Monster Magnet is nowhere to be found. Then again maybe MM is more stoner rock(I'm not really an expert). 


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: January 03 2020 at 02:42
^ I never heard of Monster Magnet but they were never suggested to our team. Feel free to write a suggestion if you think they deserve a place here.


Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: January 03 2020 at 06:10
I have Monster Magnet's albums and love them but they cannot find any place in PA, I guess.

Anyway, KG/LW have already been added so the role of this thread has ended up. Wink


-------------
http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow">



Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd. - http://www.webwiz.co.uk