Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Music Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Progressive Ears forum
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedProgressive Ears forum
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 12>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
SteveG View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 11 2014
Location: Kyiv In Spirit
Status: Offline
Points: 20616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2015 at 14:37
^Yes, this a forum where people can express opinions, up to a certain point. There are many extremely knowledgeable members on this site and opinions that don't hold water are easy to shake out. Having so many knowledgeable people in one place is also extremely enjoyable to me, as I pick up something new at least a good portion of the time.
 
All members can't be experts in genres like krautrock or RIO/Avant, so opinions from people who are is welcome, at least to me.


Edited by SteveG - September 18 2015 at 15:28
Back to Top
infandous View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 23 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2447 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2015 at 12:53
To be honest, I've had far less problems with people on PE than I have on this board over the years.  Though, because of all the horror stories about PE I heard over the years, I only joined there back in 2011 or so.  I got on the forums here back in 2005, when things were quite wilder than they are now.  However, people like Sean Trane, Mickey, Dean and a few others made it worthwhile to stay.

As to cliques......well, I spend most of the past 5 or 6 years over on the Flower Kings Appreciation thread here at PA.  Which was basically a handful of people posting regularly with the occasional drive by.  So that seems pretty cliquish to me.  I'd say both boards have that "issue" (I don't see it as a problem personally, and we at the TFK thread were always welcoming and nice to newcomers, so we never tried to exclude anyone).

One thing that never seems to get through to some people that bothers me sometimes......everything everyone posts (that isn't official news of some sort) is OPINION.  Your views on whatever band or style or album is just that, YOUR VIEW.  Music appreciation is almost entirely subjective and I get the feeling a lot of prog fans never quite understand that their view is not shared by most, if not all, other prog fans.  That isn't a problem, it's just how we humans are.  Music isn't something that can be simply labeled good or bad....... at least, outside of pure personal opinion.
Back to Top
jayem View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 21 2006
Location: Switzerland
Status: Offline
Points: 995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2015 at 10:15
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

I recall many years ago using the classification "oriental" in the wrong way. I used it as a reference to Asian and additionally the reference of oriental had just been dismissed and found defensive . Not politically correct, but not everyone in the world had latched on to this as of yet. On P.E. a bunch of losers told me that oriental was like "negro". As a matter of fact to quote the post reply, it said this....."More like negro". I absolutely hate these people and would never want to sit or stand near them at a concert. They are dirt under my feet and they can pound sand. One minute they are telling you how great King Crimson are and the next minute they are praising Stadium Rock. Morons!

Their mothers would pray everyday before their birth: "Please give me a very sturdy, strong and confident child everyone will abominate"... You don't seem to have to take that kind of people in your own family, though. I have very, very close relatives eager to crush and smother anyone whose taste isn't within their league. I have to rejoice at any of their possible hardships to keep my balance. Survival tactics are necessary also in countries called prosperous.
Support mine-clearing !
bandcamp collection
Back to Top
TODDLER View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: August 28 2009
Location: Vineland, N.J.
Status: Offline
Points: 3126 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2015 at 08:22
Some members of Prog websites are twisted and I can't relate to their logic. They have this abundance of confidence when making a total absurd statement. I don't get it? One time I watched Michael Rutherford on film saying: "I was banned through my entire career from playing guitar". I thought: "Well...maybe you weren't that good"  He played some nice 12 string , but seriously..what is he complaining about? God forbid if you mentioned on P.A. or P.E.  that he was mediocre on guitar. They are so bias it's moronic. Why can't people just be honest and say that he is average? Don't be so bias that you are stupid. He is not Steve Hackett or Jeff Beck. 
Back to Top
TODDLER View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: August 28 2009
Location: Vineland, N.J.
Status: Offline
Points: 3126 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2015 at 07:53
I recall many years ago using the classification "oriental" in the wrong way. I used it as a reference to Asian and additionally the reference of oriental had just been dismissed and found defensive . Not politically correct, but not everyone in the world had latched on to this as of yet. On P.E. a bunch of losers told me that oriental was like "negro". As a matter of fact to quote the post reply, it said this....."More like negro". I absolutely hate these people and would never want to sit or stand near them at a concert. They are dirt under my feet and they can pound sand. One minute they are telling you how great King Crimson are and the next minute they are praising Stadium Rock. Morons!
Back to Top
presdoug View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 24 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 8651 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2015 at 17:48
One thing about Progressive Ears that I will never forget, and think back with fondness to, is, when I joined years ago, there was a poll on what was the best German prog album, not krautrock, just German prog band album in general, and-lo and behold, Triumvirat's album Illusions On A Double Dimple won number one spot.Thumbs Up

Edited by presdoug - September 17 2015 at 17:49
Back to Top
Raff View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 29 2005
Location: None
Status: Offline
Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2015 at 14:30
Just for laughs (though I am just a little bit flatteredWink), someone (not Ian) quoted my blog in that thread about how to build an audience for prog bands. Perhaps I should think about joining the forum once again...
Back to Top
Nogbad_The_Bad View Drop Down
Forum & Site Admin Group
Forum & Site Admin Group
Avatar
RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team

Joined: March 16 2007
Location: Boston
Status: Online
Points: 20974 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2015 at 07:55
Seems people want it both ways. You miss the good old flame war days but lots of comments that PE is too mean and nasty for lots of PAers. Personally I like a balance.
Ian

Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com

https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
Back to Top
Sean Trane View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Prog Folk

Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20313 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2015 at 01:54
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:



Funny thing is today's admins are just as much so... god we could have some fun today Hugues. Who could stop us from stampeding Neo fans through the forum ...but times have changed. The west isn't as wild, SWilson fans aren't half bad as DT fans were. and we made DT fans extinct and we pity Neo fans more than anything... so where is the fun... and more to the point.


Didn't we achieve that with Agent Orange spraying?? EmbarrassedLOL

Though they were persitant buggers  and we had to add some Round-up in the third spraying

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


We either added the controversial artists already.. or forever cast them aside.  We've talked of this before.. that is the biggest thing missing from this forum today. Passion.. passion for the music. We had it as collabs.. the forum had it when they would try to draw and quarter us for additions they didn't agree with. Today I don't think they care.. and I'm not sure if that is a good thing or bad thing. It makes for a peaceful forum.. but underscores the larger real world problem that whatever progressive rock/prog rock scene has fragmented to a bunch of people out for themselves rather than feeling affinity for the music and the bands.


Yeah, they'd flame us for adding stuff they didn't think was prog

Nowadays we get flamed for refusing once in a while their suggestions
Back to Top
micky View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 02 2005
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:53
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:



I agree... This place was wild, exciting and also dangerous, partly due to the first generation Admin's laissez-faire attitude .



yeah... but there was always Reed Lover/Tony R Heart An exception to the rule.

Funny thing is today's admins are just as much so... god we could have some fun today Hugues. Who could stop us from stampeding Neo fans through the forum ...but times have changed. The west isn't as wild, SWilson fans aren't half bad as DT fans were. and we made DT fans extinct and we pity Neo fans more than anything... so where is the fun... and more to the point. 

We either added the controversial artists already.. or forever cast them aside.  We've talked of this before.. that is the biggest thing missing from this forum today. Passion.. passion for the music. We had it as collabs.. the forum had it when they would try to draw and quarter us for additions they didn't agree with. Today I don't think they care.. and I'm not sure if that is a good thing or bad thing. It makes for a peaceful forum.. but underscores the larger real world problem that whatever progressive rock/prog rock scene has fragmented to a bunch of people out for themselves rather than feeling affinity for the music and the bands.


The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Back to Top
Meltdowner View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: June 25 2013
Location: Portugal
Status: Offline
Points: 10262 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:42
I only heard of Ut Gret when it was time to vote. I still listened to it once, but I'm sure it's not enough to discover its qualities.
Back to Top
Raff View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 29 2005
Location: None
Status: Offline
Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:31
Originally posted by progrockdeepcuts progrockdeepcuts wrote:

Number 12? 12?! Seems awfully low ...


Here's the link to the Collabs Best of 2014 list: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=101166 

My own had Ut Gret at #1, and two albums in my own top 10 made the general list (not too bad, all things considered).
Back to Top
Sean Trane View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Prog Folk

Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20313 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:28
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Dear god its not the wild west its an internet forum where most of the participants are friendly, knowledgeable and welcoming, like most places there are a few trolls to avoid but they can't be more than 2 to 3 percent of the posters.


in that PA's has become much more like PE's.  God almighty was this place a glorious chaotic mess in its glory days..  the admins had to refresh the sawdust on the floor twice a day for all the blood spilled with both trolls and the innocent gunned down in broad daylight by roving bands of forum terrorists.
 
And I arrived too late for the party.  Damn.


yeah.. this forum has matured greatly over the last 6 or 7 years.  I am prone to hypebole.. but ask any of the 05 or 06'rs.. for we talk of it often.. this forum is VERY different from what it it used to be. Much friendlier.. less drive by shootings... more condusive to friendly discussions.. yet in it's own strange way.. a more boring forum. I love the change.. yet in a way miss the old forum.  You got as far as your speed on the draw and how straight you shot..  (wit and knowledge).


I agree... This place was wild, exciting and also dangerous, partly due to the first generation Admin's laissez-faire attitude . Most of my 12000 posts (5/6, I'd say) date from the first four years or so. There were days where I spent most of my time posting away on the PA forums, never drawing my Colts first,but also  never fearing to get in the thick of things ... Though, at first, I hesitated, lurking for a few months before diving from the deep end and biting sharks and killer whales already in there

Micky has a sense of formula, which I like to emulateLOL, but yeah the place has become somewhat boring next to what it ob-nce was
Back to Top
progrockdeepcuts View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 14 2013
Location: West Virginia
Status: Offline
Points: 394 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:27
Number 12? 12?! Seems awfully low ...




Listen to older shows here: mixcloud.com/progrockdeepcuts/
Back to Top
micky View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 02 2005
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:24
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Well, Ancestor's Tale was voted as #12 in PA's Best of 2014 list, so there's still hope...


and would have been higher if I hadn't boycotted the voting for all the SWilson abuse heaped upon previous year's lists. LOL
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Back to Top
Raff View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 29 2005
Location: None
Status: Offline
Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:22
Well, Ancestor's Tale was voted as #12 in PA's Best of 2014 list, so there's still hope...
Back to Top
micky View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 02 2005
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:18
Clap
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Back to Top
progrockdeepcuts View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 14 2013
Location: West Virginia
Status: Offline
Points: 394 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:18
Micheal, Raff might be the writer in the family, but you sure do have a talent for turning a phrase! :-)

Maybe I'll start a couple of Roy and Ut Gret threads here and see what happens.




Listen to older shows here: mixcloud.com/progrockdeepcuts/
Back to Top
micky View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 02 2005
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:16
Originally posted by progrockdeepcuts progrockdeepcuts wrote:

Ha! Glad you guys dig the Harper and Ut Gret threads. I wonder who posted those? :)


while we continue to get SWilson's favorite breakfast cereal threads here...LOL  Fact... we actually did have a favorite Petrucci breakfast cereal thread here once.. and you all wonder why teh streets here once ran red with blood once Mick and his gang of Art-Rock thugs decended on the DT fans with lead pipes.
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Back to Top
progrockdeepcuts View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 14 2013
Location: West Virginia
Status: Offline
Points: 394 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2015 at 17:13
Ha! Glad you guys dig the Harper and Ut Gret threads. I wonder who posted those? :)




Listen to older shows here: mixcloud.com/progrockdeepcuts/
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.109 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.