PA's Official Pick the 5th Beatle Poll.

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   I agree that the only credible contender for so-called 5th Beatle is George Martin but I also believe his creative input and contribution diminished significantly over time as attested by Abbey Road engineer Ken Scott:

I think they actually reached the point where they didn’t even need him (George Martin) for orchestral arrangements, since they would play what they wanted the string lines to sound like on a piano and George just scored what they played. He wasn’t so much creating the arrangement as just transcribing it.

Even his Orchestral film score for their contractual obligation album 'Yellow Submarine' smacks of someone left in the lurch by his previous collaborators to plug a 20 minute shortfall.

BTW contrary to popular belief, only the Amp Room staff at Abbey Road wore white lab coats

Poll Question: Who was really the 5th Beatle?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Stu Sutcliffe	2	[5.26%]
Pete Best	1	[2.63%]
Brian Epstein	2	[5.26%]
George Martin	25	[65.79%]
Geoff Emerick	2	[5.26%]
Mal Evans	1	[2.63%]
Yoko Ono	3	[7.89%]
Klaus Voorman	2	[5.26%]
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ExittheLemming Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415	Posted: February 14 2015 at 21:00
	I agree that the only credible contender for so-called 5th Beatle is George Martin but I also believe his creative input and contribution diminished significantly over time as attested by Abbey Road engineer Ken Scott: I think they actually reached the point where they didn’t even need him (George Martin) for orchestral arrangements, since they would play what they wanted the string lines to sound like on a piano and George just scored what they played. He wasn’t so much creating the arrangement as just transcribing it. Even his Orchestral film score for their contractual obligation album 'Yellow Submarine' smacks of someone left in the lurch by his previous collaborators to plug a 20 minute shortfall. BTW contrary to popular belief, only the Amp Room staff at Abbey Road wore white lab coats

The Dark Elf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13064	Posted: February 14 2015 at 20:07
	This is silly. All you have to do is listen to the superb Beatles' Love album to know that without a doubt the 5th Beatle was Sir George Martin.
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emigre80 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 25 2015 Location: kentucky Status: Offline Points: 2223	Posted: February 14 2015 at 19:06
	No votes for Yoko? How puzzling.

The.Crimson.King Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596	Posted: February 14 2015 at 18:46
	Definitely George Martin...the Beatles would have sounded drastically different without his guidance and arrangement abilities...
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Michael678 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 02 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2466	Posted: February 14 2015 at 15:43
	ADER, Martin!!
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Polymorphia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856	Posted: February 14 2015 at 13:21
	I'm going to stick to people who made musical contributions: George Martin was invaluable to the Beatles sound and their long-lasting appeal. While Billy Preston and others made performance contributions, George Martin often played a role in the very identity of the songs. Every Lennon/McCartney song, at least Revolver and on, was, in a way, Lennon/McCartney/Martin.
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TeleStrat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 27 2014 Location: Norwalk, CA Status: Offline Points: 9319	Posted: February 14 2015 at 12:48
	George Martin for sure.

someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24302	Posted: February 14 2015 at 12:42
	George Martin is the only one who qualifies.


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	Surely we've already decided they never existed? But if they had, it would have been Sir George Martin.

sublime220 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 21 2015 Location: Willow Farm Status: Offline Points: 1563	Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:44
	Toss up between George and Mal. Went with George.
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LearsFool Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: November 09 2014 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 8642	Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:30
	I'll go with what Paul says: If there was a fifth once the Fab Four as we knew it took shape, it was Brian.

SteveG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20609	Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:19
	First off, there's no way I'm going list that many people as there's only so many hours in a day, minutes in an hour and so on... And your list is incomplete because it left out John Woloschuk from Klaatu!
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Stool Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 30 2007 Location: Anti-Cool (anag Status: Offline Points: 2689	Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:12
	C&P from wikipeeja: Mitch Benn, Liverpudlian musical comedian, performed an Edinburgh Festival Fringe show entitled Mitch Benn is the 37th Beatle in which he counted up everyone claimed to be the fifth Beatle and tried to arrange them, "in descending order of Beatledom", including himself. This show was later performed on BBC Radio 4. The fifth Beatle on his list was Pete Best, with the rest of the list consisting of Stuart Sutcliffe (6th), Tony Sheridan (7th), the rest of the original Quarrymen (8th-12th), Andy White (13th), Jimmie Nicol (14th), Billy Preston (15th), Eric Clapton (16th), Brian Epstein (17th), George Martin (18th), Derek Taylor (19th), Mal Evans (20th), Neil Aspinall (21st), Badfinger (22nd-25th), Jeff Lynne (26th), Monty Python (27th-32nd), Neil Innes (33rd), David Catlin-Birch (34th), Neil Harrison (35th) and Elvis Costello (36th).^[30]
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SteveG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20609	Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:05
	^Double Douh!
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Stool Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 30 2007 Location: Anti-Cool (anag Status: Offline Points: 2689	Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:04
	and Jimmie Nicol
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SteveG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20609	Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:01
	^Douh!
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Stool Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 30 2007 Location: Anti-Cool (anag Status: Offline Points: 2689	Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:01
	Stu was the best in the band You forgot Billy Preston, by the way Edited by Stool Man - February 14 2015 at 10:02
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	The other Paul
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SteveG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20609	Posted: February 14 2015 at 09:48
	It's time to decide once and for all. Who was really the 5th Beatle? The contestants. Stu Sutcliffe: Original bassist for the Beatles who died of a brain hemorrhage shortly after leaving the Beatles in 1962. Pete Best: Original drummer for The Beatles who dumped in favor of Ringo Starr. Brain Epstein: Manager of the Beatles before his untimely death in 1968. George Martin: Beatles' long time producer and classically trained musical arranger. Geoff Emerick: Boy genius recording engineer for the Beatles from Revolver through to "The White Album". Mal Evans: Long time Beatles' roadie and "Man Friday". Yoko Ono: Second wife of John Lennon and appendage that seemed to grow out of his side during recording sessions for "The White Album". Klaus Voorman: Long time Beatles' friend and artist/designer for the album cover for Revolver.