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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2011 at 03:35
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

With all of the phantom tags of 2nd base on double plays and the general rule on steals that when the ball beats the runner, the runner is assumed out, it is a shame that the Umpire made the call the way that he did but I guess that is how he saw it.  Quite the shame that an epic game had to end that way. 


Well the ump went on record to state that he saw the replay and he blew the call for what that is worth. Maybe more plays like this and they'll bring more instant replay to the game. I'd hate to see them miss the playoffs because of this call.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 16:16
They're traded Lee for sh*t before. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 16:10
Brandon Inge Ryan Raburn for Cliff Lee is on the table.
Err...wait that is for an autographed Cliff Lee 2nd year Topps card.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 16:09
I'm getting nervous that the Phillies are going to make a stupid trade. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 16:06
Clap  A win versus the Evil Empire is almost worth a 17-game losing streak. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 16:05
Seattle is on a roll now...........1-17.....no stopping us now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 15:03
Ugh!!!  9 guys left on base in the last 4 innings and 10 Tigers have struck out through 6 innings.  A career high for John Danks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 14:56
Seattle is beating the Yankees 7 to 1 late in the game.  Will they be able to hold on?
 
Angels beat the Indians 3 to 1, with Santana throwing a no-hitter. Clap
 
Tigers are stranding runners left and right and gave up a 2-run homer to a kid making his season debut today who had no home runs in his previous 200 Major League at bats.  Hopefully they get something going soon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 14:37
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

With all of the phantom tags of 2nd base on double plays and the general rule on steals that when the ball beats the runner, the runner is assumed out, it is a shame that the Umpire made the call the way that he did but I guess that is how he saw it.  Quite the shame that an epic game had to end that way. 
 
Well to me the 2nd base arguement is such that the ump has to watch the SS foot hit the bag, and listen for the ball to hit the glove, supposedly at the same time. If he hears/sees that runner out, on a DP situation. I would think on a steal, the missed calls are very few, % of a %. What looks to be an easy tag, on replay the runner actually slid under the tag or the tag was applied high up where you see the feet hit the bag first.
 
To me it was an epic mistake by McKenry to not apply the tag on a sliding runner, there was no collision to chance the ball popping loose.
 
Epic way for a game to end for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 14:27
With all of the phantom tags of 2nd base on double plays and the general rule on steals that when the ball beats the runner, the runner is assumed out, it is a shame that the Umpire made the call the way that he did but I guess that is how he saw it.  Quite the shame that an epic game had to end that way. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 14:17
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

This clip from MLB is much better than the ESPN one.....at about 1:49 you get the best view of what looks to be a swipe no tag by McKenry.
The ump was in the best position to make the best call he could. McKenry does not argue too much, I don't think.
 


Inexperience on McHenry's part. He had the plate blocked. He should have tagged him more aggressively. Everyone was tired at that point., If the Umps didn't want to be there then they should have suspended the game once that inning was over to be picked up today.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 10:32
This clip from MLB is much better than the ESPN one.....at about 1:49 you get the best view of what looks to be a swipe no tag by McKenry.
The ump was in the best position to make the best call he could. McKenry does not argue too much, I don't think.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 09:39
Based on that video it still looks like an umpire wanted to go home. Wink

Royals had a rough night because the starter Duffy only made it 4 innings and the bullpen had been all used up from the night before. They brought in the situation man to pitch the bottom of the eighth. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 09:30
Well...if you pause/play the video on ESPN, it certainly looks like McKenry misses the swipe tag. His glove does not seem to stop or break the path as when you actually touch the leg. Its a continuous motion as if nothing hampered his gloves path.
If there is a camera shot from say right field that might show if his glove actually touched Lugo. Although in 99.9999% of the time this play is a no brainer....Lugo is out.
 
 
Based on this I think the ump got the call right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 08:20
Terrible call. I doubt the umpire missed it. Something tells me they weren't thrilled about calling another inning. The out would have been a double play too. Sucks for the Pirates a lot, but sucks for Phillies fans too. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2011 at 04:06
The Buccos got robbed. Lugo was out at the play at the plate. Then again they should have won it in 9 innings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2011 at 10:45
I fell asleep before it was over but I guess the Royals had somewhat of an awesome game in Boston last night. Good to see.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2011 at 02:43
Nice to see the pitching come through and win it. McDonald has won his last four starts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2011 at 15:12
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Looks like our offense is going to have to win this one.


Yeah. What a bizarre game.


Oh well, 3 out of 4.  Looking forward to the SF series.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2011 at 14:33
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Looks like our offense is going to have to win this one.


Yeah. What a bizarre game.
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