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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2006 at 13:18

The review is harsh, but appears to represent the reviewer's genuine opinion.

I have moved subsequent comments to the reviews discussion thread, and posted a more detailed response there. Happy to discuss further in that thread.
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somehow this "review" comes across as extremely insulting to the neo-prog team and fish fans..!!
 
 

MARILLION — Script For A Jester's Tear

Review by bristolstc

1 stars I used to LISTEN seriously to THIS!!!!? What was I on!? Marillion together with Arena (who just happened to be a much later spinoff/imitation) were the most vulgar insult to progressive music ever created, because they not only created "neo prog," but all the evil hypocrisies that go along with it. Let's start first in the vocal/lyric department. Fish is an awful singer who tried not very hard to clone Peter Gabriel's approach circa Lamb Lies Down and Trespass. His screeching, histrionic, overbearing vocals sound more like a really bad imitation of Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson and though I'm not a great fan of Maiden, at least they didn't pretend to be something they weren't. The lyrics are written at first you think from someone whose heart is at least in the right place, but then you realize a tantrum throwing track like "Forgotten Sons" which sounds pro British Soldier anti IRA on first listening is just an excuse to write another twisted and violent song about death. Fish is the real problem here, choking you and suffocating you, but the whole band are a problem. This whole record is a lie. Progressive rock? No way!!! Marillion like all neo prog are like a bad marriage of overproduced heavy metal and smug allusions to a kind of music not only the band could care less about or understand, but a kind of music people didn't understand who liked this nonsense. There isn't one passage here that I can listen to, in fact I will never listen to anything by Marillion with Fish again and haven't for years! To give credit where credit is due, after Fish left Marillion released TWO good albums- Season's End (I've really just been told its good by a friend of mine) and Holidays In Eden (this is great and you should listen to what an improvement Steve Hogarth is), actually- make that two good records and one pretty good attempt at making a concept album- the underrated and very listenable Brave. Back to this disaster, though, no matter how hard Marillion would try to avoid the mistakes of their past, they had commited the worst insult to progressive music ever with Fish and there is no forgiving them for it. The production is horrible and sounds like any other bad 80s production job, the lyrics are made even worse by Fish's delivery which is to scream, grunt, and yowl every word like someone has just stuck a knife in his back (wishful thinking), and the playing is so clunky that every tempo or mood change turns into a nightmarish exercise in inept arrogant w**king. The whole sound is bad, and Fish gets the bad music he deserves here. Neo prog? I'm even growing tired of IQ who I still have to admit I have a soft spot for (maybe because they didn't fake things and were honest) and I strongly feel there were things more "progressive" in Shy, Grand Prix, Tobruk, and the other Brit/American hard pomp rock bands. Pomp was what prog turned into, not this neo nonsense. The absolute worst track on the album is "Forgotten Sons" made even worse by the fact you know a bad imitation of "The Knife" is coming for a whole album. He even has the nerve to use the line "For Those Who Trespass Against Us" in it! What would the average soldier who Fish is trying to convince do to him? Sock him in the jaw! He'd probably more likely be a Deep Purple fan than a Marillion fan anyway. Give me Maiden if I want to be put into a painful state of mind when listening. The problem is that Bruce Dickinson was technically a very good singer who didn't always have the best material, Fish is a TECHNICALLY HORRIBLE SINGER who writes awful lyrics to go with awful material. There is no way to erase the shameful stain left on music by neo prog, and it began and was obnoxious here. Not even music

 

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@ Rico: reviewer will have a new opportunity to better explain his/her rating.
 
@ Trickster: reviewer had received a communication about the first deletion. Unless s/he's using a fake e-mail address s/he should be aware of the situation.
 
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IHSAHN — The Adversary

Review by archivep (jano peter)

2 stars It´s a strange that I´ve made a review on this record yesterday and it simply disappeared from this site... Ok, I will repeat my words again on this album... For me this record is noting else than some hybrid from black metal music, the same as for example Opeth (hybrid from Death metal scene) and the others similar to this kind of "pseudo progressive metal"... I can not understand how can be this ratted as a progressive metal... the production and sound is poor and the whole music is repeating and boring... No more to say.

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So his poor excuse of a "review" was deleted, and he decided to repost it again... Very persistant... Please handle on...
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MARATHON — Norm
Review by Kingsnake

— First review of this album —

5 stars One of those instant classics.

Melodic and very progressive rock from the Netherlands. Sounds a bit like Saga, Rush and Marillion in the softer parts.

Outstanding production, vocals, and musicianship.



let's ask mr. Kingsnake for a more...elaborate review. Wink

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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Nothing about the music,just raves about this band and bands like Opeth not belonging here.

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=96885
    
 
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Nothing about the music,just raves about this band and bands like Opeth not belonging here.

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=96885
    

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Dealt with!
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CAMEL %2860'S%29 Under Age progressive rock album and reviews Psychedelic/Space Rock
(Studio Album, 1970)
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CAMEL (60'S) — Under Age
Review by komun

2 stars Progressive? Where? "Under Age" are versions of rock of the sixties. There is a version of "Pinball Wizard" (The Who), "Where is my mind" by Pixies, etcetera. I can't see the "Psychedelic Space Rock" anywhere. Two stars and thanks.

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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=96547

Hardly a review - just some facts already stated in the album description and a unfounded statement about the genre...
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Thanks anyway, Iván! Smile
 
Someone (EL?) already dealt with "jalas" reviews, Rico!Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ricochet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2006 at 16:16
I'm reporting two reviews by member jalas (jose alas), regarding Fripp & Eno's Equatorial Stars and It's A Beautiful Day's self titled album. lousy two phrases, both situations.

(not to believe that I hold grundge against him for saying Tangerine Dream are boring over at one topic)  LOL


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Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=96342

Review by krx_adex

hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! soy chileno y me llamo carlos c. primero que todo quiero dar mi opinion sobre el grupo y como lo conoci: era de noche, dormia y derrepente eran las 3:30am, iro a mi alrrededor y veo a mi padre en mi pieza con unos dvd, uno de stratovarius y otro de dream theater, feliz me levante de mi cama vaje por las escaleras, prendi la tv y el dvd, y puse el de dream theater primero, era el live and tokio/5 years in a live time, y de hay no pude parar de escuchar la mejor musica que jamas alla escuchado. el dvd es "exelente" de verdad, dream theater for my is my life, cada cancion es como los entimientos que expreso..... por eso....................................................... LARGA VIDA PARA "DREAM THEATER".


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Hi!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm Chilean and my name is Carlos C, in first place I want to share my opinion of the band and how I knew them: It was in the night and was sleeping then it was 3:30 am, I look around and find my father in my room with some DVD's, one by Stratovarious and another by Dream Theater, I woke happilly and plugged on the TV and DVD and placed the DT first, it was Live and Tokyo/5 years in a live Time, and from then I couldn't stop listening the best music I ever listened. the dvd is excellent really Dream Theater for my is my life, each song is like the feelings I express...................for that reason............................."LONG LIVE FOR DREAM THEATER"
 
Sorry, I couldn't do any better with the translation because it's poorly written even in Spanish, the punctuation is placed randomly and the use of capital leters is not existing.
 
Not a review at all, a fanboy scream of love.
 
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@ OG: I used the Mandy's Fast Translation Engine! Big smile
 
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This review is not in English.
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Review by krx_adex

hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! soy chileno y me llamo carlos c. primero que todo quiero dar mi opinion sobre el grupo y como lo conoci: era de noche, dormia y derrepente eran las 3:30am, iro a mi alrrededor y veo a mi padre en mi pieza con unos dvd, uno de stratovarius y otro de dream theater, feliz me levante de mi cama vaje por las escaleras, prendi la tv y el dvd, y puse el de dream theater primero, era el live and tokio/5 years in a live time, y de hay no pude parar de escuchar la mejor musica que jamas alla escuchado. el dvd es "exelente" de verdad, dream theater for my is my life, cada cancion es como los entimientos que expreso..... por eso....................................................... LARGA VIDA PARA "DREAM THEATER".







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@ Guigo


you always say handling on, a better English phrase would be "dealing with"

handling on is awkward phrasing


Don't hate me just trying to help. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

@ Atkingani: You're doing a great job!!Clap
 
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@ Tony R: gone! Approve
 
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