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JJLehto
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Posted: December 14 2012 at 22:49 |
Padraic wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Way too early to make a definitive statement but this Foles has talent. Maybe the QB for the Eagles after the failed Vick experiment?
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I say he's earned the chance to be their starter next year. There's not really much of an alternative anyway. There's definitely potential for this kid to be good (not great).
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It's just too soon to say that though. A few games....he could be a SB winner, a bust, a solid QB. Why can't he be great? I know I never seem to take a firm stance on QBs but remember...Eli. It wasn't until well into 2008 I was "sold" on him. Josh Freeman really looked great in 2010, regressed last year, but now with Jackson and Martin is verging on the Pro Bowl in my book. These things take time. I'd say dump Vick, but we'll see. And I know it's pure rumor but all the talk is of Chip Kelly and his crazy ass Oregon offense. It'd set Vick back as a passer 15 years but he'd be a fit!
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Padraic
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Posted: December 14 2012 at 07:13 |
JJLehto wrote:
Way too early to make a definitive statement but this Foles has talent. Maybe the QB for the Eagles after the failed Vick experiment?
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I say he's earned the chance to be their starter next year. There's not really much of an alternative anyway. There's definitely potential for this kid to be good (not great).
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MillsLayne
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Posted: December 14 2012 at 00:34 |
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
To put it lightly, that was a f**king terrible, sloppy game. The Bungles
better find a way to shore up that O-line sometime within the next 10
days, or else they won't have a prayer against the Steelers.
And 6 sacks against Dalton too! You know if the Steelers get that many opportunities, the Bengals might as well give up on their playoff chances.
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I think you're giving the Steelers D too much credit. At this point, they're banged up and showing their age and not nearly what they were over the past few seasons. They allowed the Norv-lead Chargers 34 points in last week's game at home, and the Bengals (I honestly believe) are a better team than the Chargers.
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manofmystery
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Posted: December 14 2012 at 00:33 |
I'm frankly shocked the Bungles have gone on the streak they have, since they lost to the Steelers, and are currently in the playoff picture. I'll tell you this, though, if the Steelers end up getting beat out of the playoffs by that team withthat head coach then Tomlin should be run out of town on a rail.
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JJLehto
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 23:52 |
Still a young team...very solid defense and the offense has really clicked at times. Maybe inconsistent but they're young man. If Andy and AJ keep developing could be some good days ahead.
The nerds at PFF actually rank their o line very highly. I think it may have just been the Eagles man. They always have rushed the QB well. Maybe not as well this year but they still have some beasts on the line.
Edited by JJLehto - December 13 2012 at 23:54
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 23:31 |
To put it lightly, that was a f**king terrible, sloppy game. The Bungles
better find a way to shore up that O-line sometime within the next 10
days, or else they won't have a prayer against the Steelers. And 6 sacks against Dalton too! You know if the Steelers get that many opportunities, the Bengals might as well give up on their playoff chances.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 22:46 |
LOL @ the eagels. Also, LOL @ tampa bay for losing to them last week.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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JJLehto
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 19:23 |
pretty much neutral on this game, it has 0 impact on the Giants soo I hope it's a good one! It could be, guess I'm pulling for the Bengals just because but really I want a fun game is all.
Edit: Wow...was pretty tight for a while, and the Eagles D really was playing damn well but what a torrent of fumbles. When you give up that many, and in a short span, you're toast.
Way too early to make a definitive statement but this Foles has talent. Maybe the QB for the Eagles after the failed Vick experiment?
Edited by JJLehto - December 13 2012 at 22:16
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 18:32 |
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Padraic
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 18:18 |
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
I hate to look at it this way, but tonight is probably a must-win for us against the Eagles. Although I don't think it should be too much trouble. Their O-line has been fairly terrible, and the Bengals lead the league in sacks, so I don't think it's much of a mystery as to how this game will turn out.
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Didn't you just predict Houston to win?
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 17:51 |
I hate to look at it this way, but tonight is probably a must-win for us against the Eagles. Although I don't think it should be too much trouble. Their O-line has been fairly terrible, and the Bengals lead the league in sacks, so I don't think it's much of a mystery as to how this game will turn out. Unless of course the Bengals piss away another golden opportunity, as they're so used to. Like last Sunday!
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JJLehto
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 17:52 |
rdtprog wrote:
Those who thinks that only the NFC have good teams, watch for those Pats!
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Well, not the only good teams but cmon...outside the Broncos the only other legit threat in my mind are the Pats, and while they are very good, certainly have issues. Seriously, I already had a qualm with the Texans because their pass offense is 99% Schaub to Andre...but now the run is looking worse, and the defense is hurting (and lacks pass rushers). I'm far from sold. Broncos have a ticket to the SB, it's theirs to lose. I will give the Pats credit (much as it pains me) they have certainly gone back to a more balanced offense and have really let up on running up the score. They have some great LBs but the line is suspect and can't trust the pass defense. Still, the D doesn't seem as horrendous as last year.
Edited by JJLehto - December 11 2012 at 17:54
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manofmystery
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 09:18 |
The Cheatriots are not a very good team. Don't get too excited about one game. I assume this will be a wake up call loss for Houston. That said, I repeat my call for Roger GODell's head for allowing this Cheatriot sillyness to continue. The fact that Bill Belichick is still allowed to be a coach in this league after cheating the sport for years, effectively stealing the legitimacy of season after season, is disgraceful. It's a shame the Rooneys didn't make a stink about it at the time and everyone's still paying for it. The way the NFL is run sickens me.
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rdtprog
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 04:38 |
Those who thinks that only the NFC have good teams, watch for those Pats!
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MillsLayne
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 03:19 |
^And BS touchdowns that help them win games.
But hey, let's face it, the Pats are in true form right now and will be tough for any team to take down. Maybe the Broncos now that they're hitting their stride. I'm sensing a possible Super Bowl rematch from last year happening.
Edited by MillsLayne - December 11 2012 at 03:21
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JJLehto
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Posted: December 10 2012 at 22:47 |
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Jody and Raven's nation should be elated. Maybe Flacco will pass to players outside tight ends more than 15% of the time Well, I expected a Pats win but yikes! That was a beat down. I do enjoy being right though I said it: Texans' defense isn't the same, and have no pass rush outside Watt. Aren't running the ball as well and are limited to Andre Johnson really...lack of depth, too one dimensional!
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: December 10 2012 at 20:24 |
F**k the Pats....
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Man With Hat
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Posted: December 10 2012 at 16:07 |
Cam Cameron is gone.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: December 10 2012 at 14:58 |
I should be done with my first final and back in time to watch tonight's game. I'm really excited to see a potential AFC Championship matchup tonight. Also, if I had the money for it right now and was in Vegas, I would probably take that 5.5 point spread on the Pats and put it on the Texans to win. I'm interested to see how much their defense rattles Brady. Certainly moreso than the brooms they held up in front of his face in practice last week.
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Padraic
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Posted: December 10 2012 at 08:46 |
Interested to see how the Pats fare against the Texans and Niners. Of course, I have to miss the Pats-Niners game flying to the west coast.
Hopefully we can at least play Houston in the AFC Championship game. I'd almost prefer losing that than losing to the Giants in the Super Bowl again.
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