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Posted: October 22 2010 at 12:41
jampa17 wrote:
JLocke wrote:
himtroy wrote:
jampa17 wrote:
Well... I think we see this too much from the US and Europe point of view, but you know that in Latin America and maybe in half of the World, to be "legalized" something do not offer any change at all. I know many druggers, and even if "only" abuse of weed they do not have any more neurons and they became into just a gang of stupid trippy people. Sorry, I know I could say that moderation is the key, but when kids start trying that at 12 or 13, there's no moderation at all and they consume their lives on an addiction. Our world is no horrible, and weed do not make things better... just worse...
Are you still in high school? Because I'd be shocked if you haven't reached the age where you realise that many completely functional and normal people are smoking pot AND being fine in life. The same as theres people who are successful and go out and drink on the weekends.
No amount of sense you try to talk into him will ever change his narrow, narrow mind.
Funny... I'm 25 years old and I have several friends who try weed once in a while and everything is fresh, but I know alot more that abuse of it and yes, they do not have a life, they only live and work to buy it... and yes, it's adictive, you can say is because they like it but they HAVE, they NEED to be smoking that cr*p all day, and yes, I can't have a cleaver conversation with them... yes, their minds have lost many of the regular working and the get into abuse.
Sorry if I'm not hipocrit and say "yeah, everything is cool and there's no problem". Of course there's a problem, don't mind -I tell you- if someone want to waste his life on it, but sure it destroys life man... and I have seen it plenty of times now...
Well, you're wrong as usual. Pot in and of itself is not an 'addictive' substance. As I said way earlier in this very thread, there is a difference between something having physically addictive ingredients in it, and something just being really hard for some people to stop. The first example involves addiction itself. The second scenario I describe is simply a self-induced habit. Big difference. People can literally become addicted to alcohol. And it's a thousand times more dangerous to people's health and well-being that pot ever will be. Yet, it's legal. It's amazing to me how many people still buy into this 'refer madness' nonsense.
As for your last paragraph . . . if you honestly think any of us here are saying ''there's no problem'' with drug use, then you sir are blind as well as thick. I'm pretty sure we have all universally agreed that taking drugs does you harm. That has nothing to do with whether or not I think pot should be legalized. Much more dangerous things than pot are legally provided to folks, so less crime and deaths surround those situations. In contrast, because pot is illegal, kids have a much greater risk of starting it early, getting hooked on harder drugs, and dying as a result of an angry dealer than if the middlemen would be cut out completely, and pot would be legally provided. That shouldn't be the case! Pot on its own would never cause such trouble.
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 11:59
Marijuana is not physically addictive. It has the potential to be mentally addictive, just as anything that makes you happy does. Ever really get a craving for chocolate? Giving in to eating chocolate is the same thing with different side effects. Neither have physical addictions. Coffee, however, has a physically addictive substance in it. No one's banning coffee or chocolate, and marijuana should be no different.
Read up on it and maybe even "study" it yourself, but only weak-willed people who have no ambition or motive to do anything anyway let the comfort of pot ruin their lives.
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 11:50
JLocke wrote:
himtroy wrote:
jampa17 wrote:
Well... I think we see this too much from the US and Europe point of view, but you know that in Latin America and maybe in half of the World, to be "legalized" something do not offer any change at all. I know many druggers, and even if "only" abuse of weed they do not have any more neurons and they became into just a gang of stupid trippy people. Sorry, I know I could say that moderation is the key, but when kids start trying that at 12 or 13, there's no moderation at all and they consume their lives on an addiction. Our world is no horrible, and weed do not make things better... just worse...
Are you still in high school? Because I'd be shocked if you haven't reached the age where you realise that many completely functional and normal people are smoking pot AND being fine in life. The same as theres people who are successful and go out and drink on the weekends.
No amount of sense you try to talk into him will ever change his narrow, narrow mind.
Funny... I'm 25 years old and I have several friends who try weed once in a while and everything is fresh, but I know alot more that abuse of it and yes, they do not have a life, they only live and work to buy it... and yes, it's adictive, you can say is because they like it but they HAVE, they NEED to be smoking that cr*p all day, and yes, I can't have a cleaver conversation with them... yes, their minds have lost many of the regular working and the get into abuse.
Sorry if I'm not hipocrit and say "yeah, everything is cool and there's no problem". Of course there's a problem, don't mind -I tell you- if someone want to waste his life on it, but sure it destroys life man... and I have seen it plenty of times now...
Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 05:48
Yes and No. Can I say that? No. I do think it makes a mess of people. Not everybody who takes (smokes) it but some people either cos they have problems in the first place or cos they smoke too much too often. But, it would be better to take it out of the criminal world and stop it being a gateway drug to people who otherwise would just smoke a bit and then stop there.
I guess it causes less problems than alcohol mind.
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 02:43
himtroy wrote:
jampa17 wrote:
Well... I think we see this too much from the US and Europe point of view, but you know that in Latin America and maybe in half of the World, to be "legalized" something do not offer any change at all. I know many druggers, and even if "only" abuse of weed they do not have any more neurons and they became into just a gang of stupid trippy people. Sorry, I know I could say that moderation is the key, but when kids start trying that at 12 or 13, there's no moderation at all and they consume their lives on an addiction. Our world is no horrible, and weed do not make things better... just worse...
Are you still in high school? Because I'd be shocked if you haven't reached the age where you realise that many completely functional and normal people are smoking pot AND being fine in life. The same as theres people who are successful and go out and drink on the weekends.
No amount of sense you try to talk into him will ever change his narrow, narrow mind.
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 01:43
jampa17 wrote:
Well... I think we see this too much from the US and Europe point of view, but you know that in Latin America and maybe in half of the World, to be "legalized" something do not offer any change at all. I know many druggers, and even if "only" abuse of weed they do not have any more neurons and they became into just a gang of stupid trippy people. Sorry, I know I could say that moderation is the key, but when kids start trying that at 12 or 13, there's no moderation at all and they consume their lives on an addiction. Our world is no horrible, and weed do not make things better... just worse...
Are you still in high school? Because I'd be shocked if you haven't reached the age where you realise that many completely functional and normal people are smoking pot AND being fine in life. The same as theres people who are successful and go out and drink on the weekends.
Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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Posted: October 21 2010 at 20:15
Deleuze wrote:
THC doesn't kill your neurons, it only makes them work slower...maybe the problem isn't these stupid trippy people..it's your perception of them...and I've never EVER saw anyone becoming addicted to weed. Anyway, I don't wanna get in any kind of debate, just wanted to give out my point of view. Peace.
Of course you can fix that by doing meth.
Edited by Slartibartfast - October 21 2010 at 20:15
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: October 21 2010 at 17:39
jampa17 wrote:
Well... I think we see this too much from the US and Europe point of view, but you know that in Latin America and maybe in half of the World, to be "legalized" something do not offer any change at all. I know many druggers, and even if "only" abuse of weed they do not have any more neurons and they became into just a gang of stupid trippy people. Sorry, I know I could say that moderation is the key, but when kids start trying that at 12 or 13, there's no moderation at all and they consume their lives on an addiction. Our world is no horrible, and weed do not make things better... just worse...
THC doesn't kill your neurons, it only makes them work slower...maybe the problem isn't these stupid trippy people..it's your perception of them...and I've never EVER saw anyone becoming addicted to weed. Anyway, I don't wanna get in any kind of debate, just wanted to give out my point of view. Peace.
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Posted: October 21 2010 at 16:40
Well... I think we see this too much from the US and Europe point of view, but you know that in Latin America and maybe in half of the World, to be "legalized" something do not offer any change at all. I know many druggers, and even if "only" abuse of weed they do not have any more neurons and they became into just a gang of stupid trippy people. Sorry, I know I could say that moderation is the key, but when kids start trying that at 12 or 13, there's no moderation at all and they consume their lives on an addiction. Our world is no horrible, and weed do not make things better... just worse...
Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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Posted: October 21 2010 at 15:47
andyman1125 wrote:
i know there will be many (many) people who will probably disagree, but it think weed is horrible. its just really, really bad.
Why?
It's a much safer mood altering substance than ethanol.
It's certainly not worth risking your career over (the situation for many of us who aren't self-employed), but I see no problem with legalization. (Might be a nice revenue stream for the gubment, lord knows they need more money.)
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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