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Points: 12794 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2013 at 20:20
Yeah, I made the rhythm pretty weird on that one. I'll have to just experiment and see what works.

Found this file and decided to make it even creepier.
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Points: 8856 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2013 at 17:54
Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

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Made some progress on this thing I'm working on.
Sounds great. I would repeat each part an insane amount of times, before moving to the next.
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I do have the problem of never repeating things enough. I guess it's that I'd rather have someone listen to something they really like twice instead of dragging it on until they don't like it.
Then try not repeating it. Perhaps it could be through composed. The drums, I think, are what make the amount of times it repeats a bit off. If the parts repeated a lot more, or nothing repeated at all, it might be a bit more coherent.
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^Thoughtful poetry doesn't necessarily mean complexity. It means taking into account a personal aspect rather than just writing a rhyming essay. Instead of writing "I'm sad," or "I'm in love," try writing the things you would say and do if you were lovestruck or sad. You insult the listeners' intelligence when you make their judgements for them. Give them something to empathize with, something to judge for themselves. Don't expect them to agree or even sympathize with what you're saying, good or bad, if you force it on them.
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Of course.
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^ That's probably why it's a good idea not to repeat certain things more than once. Don't try to second-guess the listener for how many times he wants to hear it. Let him repeat it.
I acknowledge this, but at the same time, as the creator, I've already heard the music dozens of times meaning that I get bored of it much faster. I hope that makes sense?
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^ That's probably why it's a good idea not to repeat certain things more than once. Don't try to second-guess the listener for how many times he wants to hear it. Let him repeat it.
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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

Made some progress on this thing I'm working on.
Sounds great. I would repeat each part an insane amount of times, before moving to the next.
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I do have the problem of never repeating things enough. I guess it's that I'd rather have someone listen to something they really like twice instead of dragging it on until they don't like it.
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Originally posted by Luna Luna wrote:

Made some progress on this thing I'm working on.
Sounds great. I would repeat each part an insane amount of times, before moving to the next.
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Made some progress on this thing I'm working on.
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^Thoughtful poetry doesn't necessarily mean complexity. It means taking into account a personal aspect rather than just writing a rhyming essay. Instead of writing "I'm sad," or "I'm in love," try writing the things you would say and do if you were lovestruck or sad. You insult the listeners' intelligence when you make their judgements for them. Give them something to empathize with, something to judge for themselves. Don't expect them to agree or even sympathize with what you're saying, good or bad, if you force it on them.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2013 at 16:34
^ Then that means that you won't be straightforward. Can you write meaningful lyrics without them being complex?
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The motto is "show, don't tell." The moral has to be implied. Also, don't spend your time on obvious and specific allegories. Give whatever issue you're wanting to convey some complexity.
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I try to avoid being preachy. Really, any time I try to make a point or express an opinion or moral in a song, it sounds pretentious, and I aim to be very unpretentious, especially with the kind of music I make. Instead I usually try to make abstract, unimportant lyrics that are only there to add to the sound. Stuff like this:

Space and time
Start to collide
Acid boats
Run thru out me
I killed rabbits
Inside my mind
Killed the pope
Sent a letter

My old dog
Killed my lizard
I smoked dope
And ate the leftovers
He Smiled
And said well done
It smelled weird
I ran for my life

I LOATH THE OCEAN
I remember Dark


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Points: 12794 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2013 at 23:31
The few lyrics that I've written are more abstract and not really about anything. As a writer, though, the preachiest that I get is in forms of satire. So my answer would be not really.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2013 at 23:26
LOL ... No, I mean lyrics in which you give moral advice ... as in ... .
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Points: 12794 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2013 at 23:22
I'm not religious.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2013 at 23:12
Anyone ever wrote preachy lyrics?
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Points: 26138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2013 at 11:23
Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

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I would recommend to you "Sahara" by McCoy Tyner. Its pretty intense and crazy and uses koto and other instruments non-traditional to jazz, but doesn't require as much focus as, say, the second great Miles Davis Quartet. It doesn't have guitar, though.
I'm familiar with that album, I like it.
Have you checked out Coltrane's post-bop or free stuff, then? "A Love Supreme" and "Om" are my favorites.

Yeah, I'm reasonably familiar with Coltrane, particularly the late stuff.  "Ascension" is prob my favorite of them.  I don't listen to him a lot though.
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Points: 8856 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2013 at 11:14
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

I would recommend to you "Sahara" by McCoy Tyner. Its pretty intense and crazy and uses koto and other instruments non-traditional to jazz, but doesn't require as much focus as, say, the second great Miles Davis Quartet. It doesn't have guitar, though.
I'm familiar with that album, I like it.
Have you checked out Coltrane's post-bop or free stuff, then? "A Love Supreme" and "Om" are my favorites.

Also, Mustard Sea, I've sampled your music and I plan to give it a full listen soon. Stay tuned for a small review.
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Points: 26138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2013 at 10:40
Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

I would recommend to you "Sahara" by McCoy Tyner. Its pretty intense and crazy and uses koto and other instruments non-traditional to jazz, but doesn't require as much focus as, say, the second great Miles Davis Quartet. It doesn't have guitar, though.
I'm familiar with that album, I like it.
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