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Poll Question: Who is your favourite revolutionary?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 13:21
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

"Most quotes on the internet are made up" - Abraham Lincoln

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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

PS: I would had mentioned Jesus Christ, but it could cause some negative reactions, so lets leave it in contemporary men and women

I am not particularly religious but I have a lot more respect for figures such as Jesus Christ or Siddhartha Gautama than I do for any advocate of violence.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 13:13
Originally posted by Otto9999 Otto9999 wrote:

Nothing more damn disgustiong than this bunch of "revolutionaries" listed here, so sorry.. but I hate all of them.
 
I can make an objection though. just for science celebrities obviously.
 
Can someone ever tell me when I have the permission to throw just a single vote here? Confused, thanks.
 
 
40 posts will get you to the level where you can vote in polls.
 
p.s. agree with your point about the people listed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 12:59

  

 
 
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 12:44
Originally posted by GKR GKR wrote:

Talking about africans: Frantz Fanon (actually a martinican, but fight in the Algeria revolution), Amílcar Cabral, Nkrumah, Lumumba, Biko...
 
 
Tito and Julius Nyerere, President of Tanzania
 
 
 
Tito and Jomo Kenyatta, President of Kenya
 
 
 
Tito and Kenneth Kaunda, President of Zambia
 
 
 
Tito and Musa Traore, President of Mali
 
 
 
Tito and Ahmed Sekou-Toure, President of Guinea
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 11:49
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I'm defending Svetonio Dean, but just asking a question. How long does it take someone that has been brainwashed by decades of propaganda from an amoral political structure, that was further fueled by paranoia, to see the truth of that country's past, if ever?

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

If ever?

A good point well made.

Never in their lifetime?
A classic case of someone choosing the slightly lesser of two disgusting evils. It's really pathetic it this point. There's nothing else I can say about his warped perceptions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 10:57
Talking about africans: Frantz Fanon (actually a martinican, but fight in the Algeria revolution), Amílcar Cabral, Nkrumah, Lumumba, Biko...
- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 10:20
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:




Apparently you are not very selective in picking your pleas for Josip Broz Stern Smile.
Actually, Robert Mugabe was becoming well known and respected  revolutionary in the seventies when he was led his people to freedom from racist tyranny of the White minority. Yes I know that many people were lost thier lifes back then, but the freedom is always expensive, isnt?
In the seventies, Yugoslavia was helped his fight with a lot of war material. Btw, Yugoslavia had one of the biggest arms production in Europe in the seventies; even A-bomb we were able to produce easily as we had material for that aswell, but Tito, as an humanist, was against the nuclear weapons in general.
Robert Mugabe became prime minister in 1980, exactly the same year when Tito died. So even if President Mugabe really was so much corrupted and "evil" later, as the Western propaganda says, Tito had nothing to do with that, simply because Marshal Tito was already dead when Robert become the prime minister.

Edited by Svetonio - September 05 2015 at 10:27
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 06:59
Originally posted by Skalla-Grim Skalla-Grim wrote:

Quote Who is your favourite revolutionary?


Giordano Bruno
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
 
A very interesting character...I enjoyed this book some years ago.....
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 02:46
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

If ever I have any doubts whatsoever about the futility, evil, and sheer stupidity of men governed by blind ideology, I shall go back to Dean's exceptional post, and then wonder in utter amazement at Svetonio's ridiculous attempt to continue defending that position.

Sir, you are a bloody idiot, and your like is damned dangerous.
Oh, you're all very sweet and pretty smart ones and yet well educated in the history, especially in the history of the Balkans, if you thought that Marshal Tito and his partisans were supposed to practice satyāgraha when dealt with the guys like these:
 
 
 
Serbian chetniks:
 
 
 
::snip::

 
Sorry you nice people for these disturbing pictures, but believe me, I carefully chose for you the less disturbing ones.
Oh and when you once find the pictures or any relevant evidence (not from chetniks' & ustashe's "literature" and neo-nazi web pages) of the mass graves with the children, woman and old people but caused by the Yugoslav partisans, please just let me know.
What the Axis collaborators did during WWII in the Balkans was horrific and shameful on the entire human race. The post-WWII retaliation and reprisals by the Partisan forces was not on the same scale but it was no less horrific and just as deplorable, again you can pretend this never happened but the official forensic evidence says otherwise. Mass-murder of unarmed prisoners and civilians can never be justified, regardless of whatever ideology you support. One crime does not condone another.

I take no sides here, I detest war, murder and killing regardless of the cause. My own country has a shameful 400 year history of war-crimes that I am not proud of. Just recently a mass grave of Scottish prisoners captured after the Battle of Dunbar in 1650 was discovered in Durham - it seems that these prisoners died from neglect (hunger, exhaustion and dysentery) rather than execution but that is no excuse.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2015 at 00:51
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I'm defending Svetonio Dean, but just asking a question. How long does it take someone that has been brainwashed by decades of propaganda from an amoral political structure, that was further fueled by paranoia, to see the truth of that country's past, if ever?

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

If ever?

A good point well made.

Never in their lifetime?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 14:52
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Svetonio's got some interesting revisionist history


Says the guy who posts pics of Mussolini. My parents lived under Fascism and through WWII, and it surely was no picnic.


What does that have to do with the fact that Tito was as much of a tyrannical despot as every other communist leader?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 13:26


Sophie Scholl, she had a real cause and wasn't a politician with petty interests

And of course



I would never vote for a criminal as Guevara, a genocide as Lenin, Stalin or Mao

PS: I would had mentioned Jesus Christ, but it could cause some negative reactions, so lets leave it in contemporary men and women




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 13:13
Quote Who is your favourite revolutionary?


Giordano Bruno
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 13:08
If ever I have any doubts whatsoever about the futility, evil, and sheer stupidity of men governed by blind ideology, I shall go back to Dean's exceptional post, and then wonder in utter amazement at Svetonio's ridiculous attempt to continue defending that position.

Sir, you are a bloody idiot, and your like is damned dangerous.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 12:58
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:




Apparently you are not very selective in picking your pleas for Josip Broz Stern Smile.

Wow...just wowLOLConfusedDead
Mugabe was probably one of the worst African leaders - ruthless and evil.

Kinda like standing up for Richard Wagner by quoting Hitler.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 12:24
Looking at some of the comments above.....
... is why I quoted Repairman Jack ( a fictional character btw...)
'Never trust anyone who wants to change the world.'

Usually those 'revolutionaries' end up killing people to achieve their 'enlightened and lofty goals'.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 10:48
King Zog of Albania must be worth a mention soon..another unenlightened despot!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 10:28
"Most quotes on the internet are made up" - Abraham Lincoln
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 09:35
I have a quote I'd like to share as well


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2015 at 09:03
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:




Apparently you are not very selective in picking your pleas for Josip Broz Stern Smile.


Edited by someone_else - September 04 2015 at 09:04
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