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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 11:38

My current personal fave is Genesis' "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway." It is such a great album with more and more to delve into everytime you listen to it

Other current faves include; Frances the Mute by The Mars Volta, Nude by Camel & Tales From The Topographic Ocean by Yes.

You gotta buy them all and they will all be a big step up from Tommy!!

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 11:20
Savatage has some of the best stories in their concepts. Streets is a good album, but Dead Winter Dead is my favorite story. It is about 2 people from different sides in Yogoslavia, One battle forthe moslums and the other for the christians. It does not take sides. Paul Oneil who writes the lyrics and story showed a true sence of what it is like to be apart of it. It is not some fantasy story but a look at a horrable time in our own true recent history. It has very heavey agressive guitar work. Some of the best lead. To pieces with orchestra. It flows nicely and can really move you. One child has a vocal layering segment that can almost make you cry. It is about a soldgier who comes a school hit by a bomb and sees whats left. As a father myself it is very heart wrenching. Savagate may not have the same musical prowless as DT, but this to me is true concept tht a much more meaningful story then Scenes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 08:15
Originally posted by tangerine62 tangerine62 wrote:

Isn't Pictures at an Exhibition a concept album, whether by ELP or other artists, after all it is about a walk through an art gallery (correct me once agin if i'm wrong).


Yes Mussorgsky wrote the piece based on an art exhibition of one of his friends works - you can see some of the pictures here

I suppose that can be regarded as a concept album - perhaps we need a new category Progressive Classical!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2005 at 19:18
Isn't Pictures at an Exhibition a concept album, whether by ELP or other artists, after all it is about a walk through an art gallery (correct me once agin if i'm wrong).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 17:14
opeth - still life
ayreon - the human equation

have the best concepts imo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 17:12
Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory
(^kick ass)


Dead Air Fidelity - Revolutions
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 14:54

Originally posted by dreamtheater91 dreamtheater91 wrote:



Also whats best Yes, ELP, and Genesis to start with

If you are completely new to these three groups -- and trying to take into account your enjoyment of DT -- I would recommend the following:

YES - "Close To The Edge" (or "Fragile" if you want something a little more accessible.)

ELP - s/t first album (As you're a DT fan, you may enjoy the heavier parts of this album - the first track starts with a real punch.)

GENESIS - "Foxtrot" (I think you'll enjoy Watcher Of The Skies, for starters, plus this album should be known and understood by all Prog Rock fans.)

Good luck! Let us know what you think of them.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 14:37

Here's some more metal concept albums:

  • Avantasia - The Metal Opera ( no prog here)
  • Adagio - Underworld
  • Symphony X - V
  • Pain of Salvation - Entropia, OHbtCL, Perfect Element Pt. 1, Remedy Lane
  • Kamelot - Karma, Epica, The Black Halo
  • Sonata Arctica - Silence (no prog, but prog influences)
  • Shadow Gallery - Tyranny, Room V

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 14:23
nope, but I like the stories of Dunsany, in which the little folk (as a truly superstitious Irishwoman who puts a bowl of red wine in front of the door for the little folk each evening I dare not call them anything else. by the way, the bowl is empty each morning, which is proof they do exist ) get a sinister touch and are not the rather amusing little creatures with wngs

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 14:21
Here's an unusual one that no one has mentioned yet:

Bob Johnson & Peter Knight: The King of Elfland's Daughter

Two members of Steeleye Span, and based on the book by Lord Dunsany.

Has anyone else heard this, or even heard of it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 14:14
Originally posted by dreamtheater91 dreamtheater91 wrote:

What concept albums are very good but metal?

Also whats best Yes, ELP, and Genesis to start with

And best Pain of Salvation to start with (which are concepts?)


If you are lookign for metal concept albums try:

Savatage - Streets
Savatage - Dead Winter Dead
Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
Iron Maiden  - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (sort of a concept album....)

and of course Dream Theater, but looking at your name i guess you already know about them!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 10:06

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

in my opinion the combination of "metal" and "concept album" does not work, unless you would either alllow the band to include a few non-metal songs or the concept of the album would have to be about violence and destruction all the time. or another idea, the concept could be "contest of metal bands", and then a few metal bands with different styles that take part in that contest would have to be invented (of course all would have to be portrayed and incorporated by the same band). but playing full power all the time (whch is my understanding of "prog metal"; anything else I would not give that name) just reduces the range of emotions and situations to be described (which is why I am not a great fan of prog metal).
I am quite sure there will be a lot or responses now that will prove to me there are prog metal concept albums, but how many of them are metal through and through? I am pretty sure that on such a concept album at least one ballad would appear


How about Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son?  It has quiet moments, but there's nothing there that could really be classified as a ballad.

7th son isnt a heavy metal album.. Is a prog rock concept album for me.. and its grand.. my fav Maiden album... And there's absolutley no metal in it...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 10:01
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

in my opinion the combination of "metal" and "concept album" does not work, unless you would either alllow the band to include a few non-metal songs or the concept of the album would have to be about violence and destruction all the time. or another idea, the concept could be "contest of metal bands", and then a few metal bands with different styles that take part in that contest would have to be invented (of course all would have to be portrayed and incorporated by the same band). but playing full power all the time (whch is my understanding of "prog metal"; anything else I would not give that name) just reduces the range of emotions and situations to be described (which is why I am not a great fan of prog metal).
I am quite sure there will be a lot or responses now that will prove to me there are prog metal concept albums, but how many of them are metal through and through? I am pretty sure that on such a concept album at least one ballad would appear


How about Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son?  It has quiet moments, but there's nothing there that could really be classified as a ballad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 09:59
Originally posted by ErotomanicGhost ErotomanicGhost wrote:

I see no one has posted it and i can't believe it...

AYREON - The human equation

wow, that's concept, that's progression surely one of my favs.

Yous  sure 'bout that?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 09:55

I see no one has posted it and i can't believe it...

AYREON - The human equation

wow, that's concept, that's progression surely one of my favs.

The Erotomanic Ghostly Angel marching down the Solitary Road to Purgatory.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 09:37
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

in my opinion the combination of "metal" and "concept album" does not work, unless you would either alllow the band to include a few non-metal songs or the concept of the album would have to be about violence and destruction all the time. or another idea, the concept could be "contest of metal bands", and then a few metal bands with different styles that take part in that contest would have to be invented (of course all would have to be portrayed and incorporated by the same band). but playing full power all the time (whch is my understanding of "prog metal"; anything else I would not give that name) just reduces the range of emotions and situations to be described (which is why I am not a great fan of prog metal).I am quite sure there will be a lot or responses now that will prove to me there are prog metal concept albums, but how many of them are metal through and through? I am pretty sure that on such a concept album at least one ballad would appear




I know thats fine. I was just looking for something like Dream Theater
Moments wasted Isolated Time Escaping Endless Sacrifice

As Far as I could tell theres nothing more I need and still i ask my self can this be everything

TRAPPED INSIDE THIS OCTAVARIUM!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 09:33
in my opinion the combination of "metal" and "concept album" does not work, unless you would either alllow the band to include a few non-metal songs or the concept of the album would have to be about violence and destruction all the time. or another idea, the concept could be "contest of metal bands", and then a few metal bands with different styles that take part in that contest would have to be invented (of course all would have to be portrayed and incorporated by the same band). but playing full power all the time (whch is my understanding of "prog metal"; anything else I would not give that name) just reduces the range of emotions and situations to be described (which is why I am not a great fan of prog metal).
I am quite sure there will be a lot or responses now that will prove to me there are prog metal concept albums, but how many of them are metal through and through? I am pretty sure that on such a concept album at least one ballad would appear


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 09:28
I second Jesus Christ superstar BUT ONLY THE ORIGINAL CAST RECORDING with Ian Gillan and Murry Head as Jesus and Judas respectively....

and now for something completely different:

Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention- We're only in it for the money
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 09:17
What concept albums are very good but metal?

Also whats best Yes, ELP, and Genesis to start with

And best Pain of Salvation to start with (which are concepts?)

Edited by dreamtheater91
Moments wasted Isolated Time Escaping Endless Sacrifice

As Far as I could tell theres nothing more I need and still i ask my self can this be everything

TRAPPED INSIDE THIS OCTAVARIUM!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2005 at 07:50
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Fitzcarraldo Fitzcarraldo wrote:

German:

MAGMA - Mekanik Destructiw Kommandoh

Magma are French, not German . but a great band and a great album  . in fact MDK is just a part of a nonology of albums. arguably the biggest concept in prog, featuring the adventures of the "Kreuhn Khörmahn" (not sure about the spelling), the fictitious crew of a spaceship. just what exactly the story is I don't know though, since the lyrics are in Kobaiah, the language spoken on the planet Kobah. I once stumbled across a rudimentary English - Kobaiah dictionary, but unfortunately did not bookmark the page. anyway, there were only about 50 or 60 entries in it; definitely not enough to understand the lyrics of Magma

Whoops! And I even mentioned that Vander is French in my review of the album.

Anyway, I find the following site is a good reference on MAGMA:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/magma.html

Vander's wife is a member of the ProgArchives forums, but has not posted for over a year. She used her Kobaian name as her forum nickname.

 

 

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