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The T
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 08:24 |
If you put Dean's and ExittheLemming's avatars together you realize it all makes sense: a lady covering her ears, a rodent.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 08:19 |
Bugger. There was me about to post a completely spurious response about how Dean, being a software engineer, chose this avatar because of his admiration for the person who invented the LISP programming language. Another flimsy gag opportunity bites the dust
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 07:46 |
Dean isn't a girl's name? I've been living a lie.
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Dean
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 07:10 |
chopper wrote:
Dean wrote:
If you were slightly more knowledgeable on 80s music you may have recognised the lady in my avatar, if you were more savy on Progressive Rock you may even know her relationship to Prog. I have used several images of females as my avatar, none of them were me.
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You mean you're not actually Toyah? |
It appears not, and as I recall remonstrating at the tv when she said the name of Roald Dahl's famous book was Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory when she appeared on Pointless Cenobites Celebrities, I don't think we are in any way connected.
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chopper
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 06:44 |
Dean wrote:
If you were slightly more knowledgeable on 80s music you may have recognised the lady in my avatar, if you were more savy on Progressive Rock you may even know her relationship to Prog. I have used several images of females as my avatar, none of them were me.
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You mean you're not actually Toyah?
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Dean
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 03:05 |
StaaViinsZ wrote:
Dean wrote:
Nope. Song-length is not a dictum of Prog. Power Metal is Power Metal,
Prog Metal is Prog Metal. I've seen Gamma Ray live and they are Power
Metal. |
Okay, first of all, it's incredibly awesome that you've actually seen Gamma Ray live. Once
I get past the silver haze that fills my eyes after hearing that a
woman (?) saw Gamma Ray, which basically totally rips my judgment and makes
me think you're the most beautiful thing in the world, I actually have a
few comments. |
Indeed I am the most beautiful thing in the world and I can easily imagine that having been on this earth 40 years longer than you I have seen and heard more bands than you have. I'm sure I can even name-drop a fair number of metal bands you've never heard, not that I'd ever indulge in such tawdry oneupmanship, for that would be tedious. But let's face it, given the total number of metal bands in the world it is physically impossible to have heard all of them.
StaaViinsZ wrote:
Well, NO, Song-Length is NOT a "Dictum" of Prog. But
would you be willing to admit that a 9 minute track with at least 2
mood changes could be SLIGHTLY PROGRESSIVELY INFLUENCED-- without
actually being Prog? |
Why put dictum in irony-quotes? It is a perfectly valid use of the word: there is no formal pronouncement from an authoritative source that song-length is a characteristic of Progressive Rock (or Metal).
But No, I would not be willing to admit that any long song with mood changes (!?!?) is even remotely progressively influenced, that is simply not what Prog is, nor is it an indication of influence.
StaaViinsZ wrote:
Dean wrote:
So you're a reptile. Your deductive logic is impeccable. |
Okay, so maybe I'm in the club of weird avatars-- but I was never compelled to stick a woman avatar in front of all my posts-- I mean, this is the face that goes with all your posts, it affects everything from the way people look at you to how they react to your comments. If I don't want people looking at me like I'm a girl-- why would I make my avatar a picture of one? |
Do you think that David is a pear? Teo is a dog? Silverpot is a tree? Iain is a small rodent?
If you were slightly more knowledgeable on 80s music you may have recognised the lady in my avatar, if you were more savy on Progressive Rock you may even know her relationship to Prog. I have used several images of females as my avatar, none of them were me.
StaaViinsZ wrote:
Also, though, on another note, if you are a woman, then why is your name "Dean", and why didn't you name yourself, at least for the forum, something like "Floriana" or "Jeanell181"? These are the things that confuse me. |
btw - you have responded to a female in this thread, (clue: she isn't me either).
StaaViinsZ wrote:
StaaViinsZ wrote:
Can I get a... A-OKAY WITH ME? |
Dean wrote:
lol. |
Oh, come on, I been trying to get a " A-Okay", a " Alright", maybe even a " AWWWW", but nobody does it. It's like sticking your hand out there for a Fist Bump and getting denied... You just sit there staring sad-faced at the other person, and it irrevocably scars your mood for the next 10 minutes.
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lol.
Edited by Dean - March 07 2014 at 03:07
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Chris S
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 01:38 |
^ Nothing......it's all an illusion anyways. To each their own individual reality. For those of us around in the 70's this StaaViinsZ comments reveal so much
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uduwudu
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 01:32 |
proggman wrote:
[QUOTE=StaaViinsZ]
But I guess what I'm saying is, for me, right now, thinking of anything all that great before 1980 (before 1981, really), is impossible.
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The crucial word here is "thinking". The second crucial term is "for me". This is important because this makes the above close to an opinion, which is ok. It is not just an opinion once the "me" bit is absent. Then it becomes a judgment which requires objective justification. I always look forward to this on a music site. Well, anyway, if you attempt thought (now, or later) the bucket load will happen... actually the bucket loads happen whether you, or I or anyone thinks, or not. There are times I wonder what prog - or even normal - music listeners (such as we are) expect.
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proggman
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Posted: March 07 2014 at 00:43 |
StaaViinsZ wrote:
No. And in the 80's, there was no Hair Metal. In the seventies, There was no Hard Rock. In the sixties, there was no Rock N' Roll. In the fifties, there was no Jazz. In the fourties, there was no Swing (or was that fifties?) In the 30s, whatever there was then, that was even slightly rockin', it didn't happen. DON'T YOU GET IT?! THE ONLY MUSIC THAT EVER EXISTED WAS DAVID AND THE HARP!! EVER!! My other drastic opinion would be that no music existed before 1980, considering the large quantity of lame hard rock bands in the 70s, and the lack thereof of any music of the "Heavy" nature before 1970, however, that opinion is one that gets you the WRONG PLACES in a forum, especially a Prog Forum, so that was not the opinion I elected to joking state, mostly because it's surprisingly accurate, and just may get mistaken for my actual attitude. These two would be my drastic opinions. My actual opinion? Well, lets just say before 1980, it gets pretty sparse in the territory of me liking it. However, that, of course, does not mean music created before 1980 is not "Real", but it does mean that it is UNBEARABLE and probably should be eradicated from the earth. At least, to me In retrospect: Close to the Edge would be the sole exception that comes to mind for my "1980" rule of thumb, coming in at a measly 1972! I mean, it is Prog and all, but that doesn't mean it can't still be good! However, lets face it, in all honestly, even Judas Priest's 1978 Hell Bent For Leather was, at times, pretty lame. I mean, sure, maybe it's actually pretty good, if you ignore the fact that "Delivering The Goods" is the best track, and that it seems like a early, lamer version of "Breaking the Law", with an annoying sexual theme, but lets face it, anything that came out before 1980 just didn't really have the quality standards that things did by at least 1984. Consider the quantities of awesome things coming out by 1985! Stryper's "Soldiers Under Command" (1985), Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force's "Marching Out" (1985), even Tony Carey's "Some Tough City" (1984), even if it was a little on the softer side. Try to think of that many awesome albums before 1980. For me, it's impossible. As much as I want to say they aren't there, I'm sure there are some ultra-awesome Prog masterpieces, at least in some opinions, that came out before 1980. But I guess what I'm saying is, for me, right now, thinking of anything all that great before 1980 (before 1981, really), is impossible. Feel free to slam me with a bucketload of Prog albums that go over my head. StaaVi
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cstack3
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 21:38 |
lazland wrote:
Can I have a pint of what you are on, please? |
I wish I could buy you a pint of your favorite, Steve! I lean towards Murphy's Stout (a lesson I learned on the train from Exeter to London).
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 20:26 |
The T wrote:
Or Thorazine. |
I'm thinking whatever he is on comes in suppository form; either that, or he has spent too much time looking for a melody line in a Yngwie Malmsteen song.
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The T
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 19:23 |
Or Thorazine.
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Dean
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 17:01 |
More probably tartrazine overdose.
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The T
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 15:51 |
Dean wrote:
The T wrote:
I demand more StaaViinsZ. |
You need to visit your GP, they normally don't prescribe them to people your age unless your diet consists entirely of lard...
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Then I'll be OK, but StaaViinsZ here is definitely not on statins... crystal meth seems to be more likely
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chopper
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 14:43 |
StaaViinsZ wrote:
^If I may quote Harry Potter?
TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!! [FAINTS]
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Sigh.
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StaaViinsZ
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 14:29 |
^If I may quote Harry Potter?
TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!! [FAINTS]
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"Let us scream like Tom Mallicoat, and whisper like Geoff Tate, for the difference between the two is nigh."
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chopper
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 14:25 |
What the hell have I wandered into here?
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StaaViinsZ
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 14:23 |
Lazland wrote:
Can I have a pint of what you are on, please? |
That would be a hearty pint of nothing, fair sir! Either that or freebase crack. Take your pick.
Edited by StaaViinsZ - March 06 2014 at 14:24
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"Let us scream like Tom Mallicoat, and whisper like Geoff Tate, for the difference between the two is nigh."
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lazland
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 14:09 |
Can I have a pint of what you are on, please?
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StaaViinsZ
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Posted: March 06 2014 at 14:06 |
Dean wrote:
lol.
Iain is in Australia, I'm in England. It is not 4:35 for either of us. |
That explains why you're STILL ONLINE AFTER I'VE WOKEN UP!!either
that or you're some crazed maniac who decided to quit her job simply to
be a " Professional Prog Archives Forumer", which, come on, you know it
has to have happened before...
silverpot wrote:
A new nutter, yay! Benign trolls always bring out the funniest posts
from the humorous bunch here. For lack of a pop corn icon I'll have to
bring out the beer one. Cheers! | Nutter? What are you, British? Oh, my bad, SWEDISH. I
would make some potentially offensive joke about Sweden, however,
considering many of my favorite bands ( Golden Resurrection, Eclipse,
Europe) are potentially from around that area, and that apparently all
good Melodic Metal has apparently been banished to Sweden in recent
years, I would betray myself with that remark. Ha, this isn't a show
for three users to watch silently-- LOL I guess it shows even though
people aren't writing, it doesn't mean they aren't reading. Weird cause
this thread could have about 4 followers that are silent hawks waiting
in the Great Wildebeast of Quiet-Forumness, simply to strike whenever
someone says something outrageous like "ALL PROG IS LOUSY!"**Please
note, StaaViinsZ is exempt from all possible flame war repercussions
that this, obviously, UNINTENDEDLY ATROCIOUS remark may or may not have
upon this thread, other threads, private Admin discussion threads
(should there be such a thing), or the rest of the forum in general,
including possible discussions on other music forums.
silverpot wrote:
Looking forward to the rest of the show.
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The T wrote:
I demand more StaaViinsZ. |
Does this mean they like my humor?
Dean wrote:
You
need to visit your GP, they normally don't prescribe them to people
your age unless your diet consists entirely of lard... |
Well, no, not entirely, just mostly, with a large percentage of Bean Curd & Tofo thrown in. As I always say, if you can't have fat, why not have something equally as nasty that they cut into cubes or strips? Actually, forget lard, I going to start living off of scones-- THOSE THINGS ARE GOOD.
Dean wrote:
Nope. Song-length is not a dictum of Prog. Power Metal is Power Metal,
Prog Metal is Prog Metal. I've seen Gamma Ray live and they are Power
Metal. |
Okay, first of all, it's incredibly awesome that you've actually seen Gamma Ray live. Once
I get past the silver haze that fills my eyes after hearing that a
woman (?) saw Gamma Ray, which basically totally rips my judgment and makes
me think you're the most beautiful thing in the world, I actually have a
few comments. Well, NO, Song-Length is NOT a "Dictum" of Prog. But
would you be willing to admit that a 9 minute track with at least 2
mood changes could be S LIGHTLY PROGRESSIVELY INFLUENCED-- without
actually being Prog?
Dean wrote:
So you're a reptile. Your deductive logic is impeccable. |
Okay, so maybe I'm in the club of weird avatars-- but I was never compelled to stick a woman avatar in front of all my posts-- I mean, this is the face that goes with all your posts, it affects everything from the way people look at you to how they react to your comments. If I don't want people looking at me like I'm a girl-- why would I make my avatar a picture of one? Also, though, on another note, if you are a woman, then why is your name "Dean", and why didn't you name yourself, at least for the forum, something like " Floriana" or " Jeanell181"? These are the things that confuse me.
StaaViinsZ wrote:
WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THIS THREAD!?!? |
Dean wrote:
Is that a rhetorical question? |
The question was directed at me, so, yes, it wasn't intended for you to answer it, but by all means, if you feel you have the answer, feel free to spit out your chewing tobacco on your Yessongs record and tell it to me.
StaaViinsZ wrote:
Can I get a... A-OKAY WITH ME? |
Dean wrote:
lol. |
Oh, come on, I been trying to get a " A-Okay", a " Alright", maybe even a " AWWWW", but nobody does it. It's like sticking your hand out there for a Fist Bump and getting denied... You just sit there staring sad-faced at the other person, and it irrevocably scars your mood for the next 10 minutes.
Exitthelemming wrote:
Are you the AntiWalter? i.e. a vengeful
demon sent up from the fiery abyss to which he was condemned for serial
trolling about the iniquities of music post 1989? BTW That's a JOKE, I don't expect you to know who the infamous Walter was round these parts y'all
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By the way, can I ask why you type in like, CRAZY STUPID GIANT FONT, are you like, blind or something? I mean, sure, I've been known to blurt out a inane comment at ALL CAPS on size 52 color red before, (Ask for example link to see one ) but what's up with this size 22 thing you have going on, 100% of the time?And no, I don't know who " Walter" was. But I can tell you that I'm no " Vengeful Demon" or even " Benign Troll"... Well, maybe just a little " Benign Troll"- ISH, but for the most part I'm different from typical trolls. I avoid saying any obscene comments and I try not to make rude personal remarks. That said, even when I'm serious, I try to be funny, which, therefor, obtains me at least an HONORARY PLACE in the " Troll Dungeons Hall Of Fame", just because I was so influential in the development of later trolls. Not saying I am a troll, but for pioneering my style of posting, at least an honorary status of Troll is expected. (anybody getting the joke here from the "Classical Influence Prog" Thread?) So, in closing, I wish peace to the Brothers of the Tree with which the Wind of the Willow Wisps nigh does shine down upon their hairy noggins. Anybody who can figure out what that means, 3 stars to them. StaaVi
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"Let us scream like Tom Mallicoat, and whisper like Geoff Tate, for the difference between the two is nigh."
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