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Posted: October 03 2012 at 13:05
dtguitarfan wrote:
I personally think this will be good for Nightwish. I never understood why they would replace a soprano with a three octave range and an operatic singing style with an alto who sings through her nose in more of a rock style. That, to me, would be like replacing James Labrie with an emo singer. Totally changed the dynamic of the band.
If I remeber right, Tuomas said he felt Tarja was thebest operatic singer in metal and they would never find someone as good. Frankly, I always felt that Floor and, in particular, Simone Simmons were better (or at least I prefer their vocals) than Tarja.
If Floor becomes the new permenant singer, I hope she's allowed to use the full range of her voice with them, when I sa ReVamp last year she had one of the most convincing death metal growls I've ever heard!, certainly put her band mate to shame at least.
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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:31
Don't know Tuomas so can't agree with metions about his ego, but Nightwish enterprise he created has spinned some coins as the mythical sampo or biggest business corporations of Finland on the band's most profitable money making years.
If the ego should be a case, how about searching some grander singvögel than those who couldn't keep on pace of the north-eastbound musician boys? Maybe the infantile heavy music could also be matured to some other directions and HEY, you would get to the high culture, lesser fans but even moar money > PROFIT
Anette's departure seems abrupt, until you factor in that a veteran and highly respected singer like Floor is immediately filling in for the rest of the tour. Makes me think this was planned for awhile, and Anette getting sick created the opportunity.
Floor is an outstanding singer, and it would be something else if she became a fulltime member or at least recorded something with them, but Tuomas' control-freak ego would clash with Floor. He'll probably go with some young newbie with a ton of skill as a permanent replacement.
No, this happened because Nightwish doesn't know how to settle personal differences. Anette publicly blogged her disapproval when Nightwish did a show without her because she was sick, and Nightwish wasn't happy about that blog post so they fired her.
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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:12
Anette's departure seems abrupt, until you factor in that a veteran and highly respected singer like Floor is immediately filling in for the rest of the tour. Makes me think this was planned for awhile, and Anette getting sick created the opportunity.
Floor is an outstanding singer, and it would be something else if she became a fulltime member or at least recorded something with them, but Tuomas' control-freak ego would clash with Floor. He'll probably go with some young newbie with a ton of skill as a permanent replacement.
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Posted: October 03 2012 at 09:45
Hi folks, my first post on here :)
Surprised by this but I must admit Imaginaerium never really clicked with me. I don't know where the "direction and the needs of the band" will be in the future, whether there will be a return to their previous sound, but as a longterm fan the Imaginaerium tour was the first time since I started listening to Nightwish in 2001/2002 that I havn't rushed to get tickets as soon as they're on sale. In fact I never bothered. I really enjoyed Dark Passion Play, but did anyone else find Imaginaerium a bit dull or reckon it'll click with time? Perhaps Anette leaving spells a return for Tarja?
I think having Nightwish on progarchives is fine, in particular considering some of their multipartite songs.
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Posted: October 03 2012 at 08:39
Progdaybay wrote:
There will be again a hiring process, like for Anette.
Hmmm - Don't know about that.
When After Forever disbanded in 2009, Floor formed her own band 'ReVamp', and so far just one album has been released (though they are apparently working on a second for release in the spring of next year). If the remainder of the Imaginaerum World Tour goes well, and she feels at ease with the band, then I have a sneaky feeling that they might not need to go through that long drawn-out hiring process again. They certainly wouldn't find anyone better, and I reckon Floor probably misses the action she saw fronting a headline act like After Forever (the split up of that band was after all more of a 'drifting apart' after a long lay-off to assesss the health of vocalist and guitarist Sander Gommans than a genuine bust-up). This might just be a 'marriage made in Heaven' for both Nightwish and Floor...
I personally think this will be good for Nightwish. I never understood why they would replace a soprano with a three octave range and an operatic singing style with an alto who sings through her nose in more of a rock style. That, to me, would be like replacing James Labrie with an emo singer. Totally changed the dynamic of the band.
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Posted: October 03 2012 at 05:18
Well...not everybody considers Nightwish to be prog, but they're on here...and the Anette vs Tarja debate has come up in the forum a few times, so I guess this is relevant.
Press statement on Monday:
"Another chapter of the Nightwish story has ended today. Nightwish and Anette Olzon have decided to part company, in mutual understanding, for the good of all parties involved.
In recent times it has become increasingly obvious that the direction and the needs of the band were in conflict, and this has led to a division from which we cannot recover.
Nightwish has no intention of cancelling any upcoming shows, and as a result we have decided to bring in a substitute vocalist starting in Seattle 1.10.2012. Her name is Floor Jansen from The Netherlands (ex-After Forever, ReVamp), and she has graciously stepped in to help us complete the Imaginaerum world tour.
We are all strongly committed to this journey, this vehicle of spirit, and we are sure that this will lead to a brighter future for everyone.
We forever remain excited about the adventures to come, and we are extremely proud of the two beautiful albums and the wonderful shows we shared together."
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