Do you support the Zeitgeist Movement?

thellama73 wrote: SolarLuna96 wrote: stonebeard wrote: That awkward moment when a new thread gets eviscerated by 5 libertarians. Happens too often n I thought I was quite kind, considering the ridiculousness of the movement in queston.

SolarLuna96 wrote: stonebeard wrote: That awkward moment when a new thread gets eviscerated by 5 libertarians. Happens too often

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I thought I was quite kind, considering the ridiculousness of the movement in queston.

Just saw this thread.

That awkward moment when a new thread gets eviscerated by 5 libertarians.

I tend to disagree with many of the people here on politics (the main reason why I tend to keep out of such threads) but I think most of us here are in agreement that the ZGM is a complete load of fantastical rubbish.

Slartibartfast wrote: I support the bowel movement.

thellama73 wrote: The Truth wrote: ^ That statement makes no sense. My personal opinion on this matter is that the US is already capable of having everyone above the poverty line and a methodology like this would eliminate the need for innovation which is the most poisonous thing that could happen to a country. People just need to at least try to make money, they can't simply give up and want the government to give it to them. That's the beautiful thing about the country, as much as some malign it for being unfair, everyone has the same shot at becoming successful it just takes innovation and hard work. So no, I think this movement would suck to the extreme. This is quite easy. Simply lower the poverty line, which is utterly arbitrary. The international definition of poverty is income of $1 a day or less. Since you can find that much lying on the street in any U.S. city, I think we have met that goal.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/eight-million-americans-rescued-from-poverty-with,3951/

http://www.theonion.com/articles/poverty-rate-hits-17year-high,26086/

The Truth wrote: ^ That statement makes no sense. My personal opinion on this matter is that the US is already capable of having everyone above the poverty line and a methodology like this would eliminate the need for innovation which is the most poisonous thing that could happen to a country. People just need to at least try to make money, they can't simply give up and want the government to give it to them. That's the beautiful thing about the country, as much as some malign it for being unfair, everyone has the same shot at becoming successful it just takes innovation and hard work. So no, I think this movement would suck to the extreme.

This is quite easy. Simply lower the poverty line, which is utterly arbitrary. The international definition of poverty is income of $1 a day or less. Since you can find that much lying on the street in any U.S. city, I think we have met that goal.

^ That statement makes no sense.

My personal opinion on this matter is that the US is already capable of having everyone above the poverty line and a methodology like this would eliminate the need for innovation which is the most poisonous thing that could happen to a country. People just need to at least try to make money, they can't simply give up and want the government to give it to them. That's the beautiful thing about the country, as much as some malign it for being unfair, everyone has the same shot at becoming successful it just takes innovation and hard work.

So no, I think this movement would suck to the extreme.

I'm the first one wishing that human society would change for better but all utopian attempts so far have failed. Look at Christiania in Copenhagen, originally a self-governed commune of freedom and equality which today is just a tourist attraction because cannabis is openly sold.