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Posted: July 18 2012 at 17:47
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Born on the Fourth of July
I would've voted that if I could. He was excellent in that one. I bet he woud've got an Academy Award for that one if it hadn't been for Daniel Day-Lewis' equally excellent performance in "My Left Foot".
Of the ones here I would have to go with Collateral, but Jerrry Maguire, Minority Report and The Last Samurai is also very good.
BTW, comedian Rich Hall is spot on about the plots in Tom Cruise's movies
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Posted: July 18 2012 at 14:35
thellama73 wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Minority Report, but that's mostly down to the fact that I love all the Philip K. Dick adaptations.
Even Paycheck? I found that one profoundly disappointing given the utter genius of the original story.
I liked Paycheck. Not quite as good as the original story, nor up there with what was done with Blade Runner, Minority Report and Total Recall, but I still thought it was good. Love may be too strong a word for Paycheck though.
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:30
The T wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
The T wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
Flyingsod wrote:
For this reason I voted for WoTW.
but it was such a crappy movie
So inferior to the 50s one...
That's just silly talk. It's a great film, so much better than the original.
Snowie - you can't say that!!!
Everyone knows that if a film is in black & white, made at least 40/50 years ago & poorly acted, no modern re-telling can ever be as good! For Shame!
Jody said it all before me so I will just say: for its time, the old movie was close to a mini sci-fi masterpiece; for its time, the new one was a cgi brainless fest with little to owe to Wells' novel but turned instead into the worst kind of Tom Cruise movie you can find, one where he, not even his character, becomes the point. I actually like him a lot but that particular movie is not his best.
Many remakes are better than the originals (Fail Safe, yes, maybe even 12 Angry Men) but some are not. This is a case of that.
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Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:25
Jim Garten wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
The T wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
Flyingsod wrote:
For this reason I voted for WoTW.
but it was such a crappy movie
So inferior to the 50s one...
That's just silly talk. It's a great film, so much better than the original.
Snowie - you can't say that!!!
Everyone knows that if a film is in black & white, made at least 40/50 years ago & poorly acted, no modern re-telling can ever be as good! For Shame!
Jody said it all before me so I will just say: for its time, the old movie was close to a mini sci-fi masterpiece; for its time, the new one was a cgi brainless fest with little to owe to Wells' novel but turned instead into the worst kind of Tom Cruise movie you can find, one where he, not even his character, becomes the point. I actually like him a lot but that particular movie is not his best.
Many remakes are better than the originals (Fail Safe, yes, maybe even 12 Angry Men) but some are not. This is a case of that.
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Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:06
Jim Garten wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
The 1958 film(which was in Technicolor) is legendary and was a milestone for special effects,for which it won an Academy Award.You can watch the film today and still be amazed at what they were able to achieve at that time
I've no doubt the film was good for its time; all I'm saying is I much prefer the remake, nothing to do with the CGI (good as they were), but the sustained air of menace throughout & Cruise's everyman-father-character.
There's a lot implied, rather than seen, as well: another director may have shown the passenger aircraft crash, but in this, we only see the wreckage; the same director may have shown a huge CGI generated battle, but here we only see the military disappear over the hill & are left to imagine the carnage. Considering the possibilities for large set-pieces in the remake, I think it was directed with remarkable restraint, concentrating more on the story than the effects (are you listening, whoever directed '2012'? ).
How about the chilling part where the train rattles past on fire?
There's also the argument that the same criticism could have been made of the first movie at the time, being compared to Orson Welles's original radio play... things change & people have their own preferences, I guess
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Well at least as older members we don't automatically feel the older film was better.
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Posted: July 18 2012 at 09:59
Snow Dog wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
The 1958 film(which was in Technicolor) is legendary and was a milestone for special effects,for which it won an Academy Award.You can watch the film today and still be amazed at what they were able to achieve at that time
I've no doubt the film was good for its time; all I'm saying is I much prefer the remake, nothing to do with the CGI (good as they were), but the sustained air of menace throughout & Cruise's everyman-father-character.
There's a lot implied, rather than seen, as well: another director may have shown the passenger aircraft crash, but in this, we only see the wreckage; the same director may have shown a huge CGI generated battle, but here we only see the military disappear over the hill & are left to imagine the carnage. Considering the possibilities for large set-pieces in the remake, I think it was directed with remarkable restraint, concentrating more on the story than the effects (are you listening, whoever directed '2012'? ).
How about the chilling part where the train rattles past on fire?
There's also the argument that the same criticism could have been made of the first movie at the time, being compared to Orson Welles's original radio play... things change & people have their own preferences, I guess
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