Tom Cruise Movies
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Topic: Tom Cruise Movies
Posted By: GaryB
Subject: Tom Cruise Movies
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 07:29
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Tom Cruise seems to be one of those actors that people either love or hate.
Be that as it may, he has made some excellent movies over the years.
Since he has a rather lengthy filmography, I have limited the poll to some of his later movies.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 07:32
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Collateral is really good. And the first Mission Impossible is way better than the second. Enjoyed war of the Worlds and Minority Report too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 07:40
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I agree with you on Collateral and War Of The Worlds.
One of my favorites that I don't seem to hear much about is The Last Samuri.
I think my IMF choices would be 3,4,1,2. But that changes from time to time.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 07:52
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I love Collateral, but my vote goes to Minority Report. Cruise has made consistently good movies for a long time now, and everyone who works with him says is extremely nice and humble. I can't understand why the press hates him so much.
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 07:55
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I couldn't agree more.
I think it has something to do with his personal life but that should not reflect on his ability as an actor.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 08:19
If Risky Business had been an option I would have gone for that for having Tangerine Dream in the soundtrack. 
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 08:21
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You had me at Jerry Maguire.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 08:28
I haven't seen The Last Samurai yet, or Valjyre...nor jerry Maguire. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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GaryB wrote:Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 08:33
But as you actually got 25 poll options to use, why not use them? Interview With a Vampire, Magnolia, Born on the Fourth of July, Eyes Wide Shut or Rain Man might very be someone's favorite. I can easily understand why people can't stand him but I think he is a somewhat underrated actor, and one of the best physical "action actors" (if that makes any sense). I think he woks best when his character is supposed to be unsympathetic or evil because then he doesn't have to try to convince us he is a good person. His breakdown in that awful Magnolia looks like a parody. I guess he's just not in touch with those kind of human feelings. So I think Tom's best performance is as the cruel and cynical vampire Lestat in Interview.... On this list I guess Minority Report, but not so much because of the acting.
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 08:39
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I know there is room for a lot more choices but it seems that when there are too many choices, many don't get voted for or commented on.
Here, there could easily be a Poll #1 and a Poll #2.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 08:46
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I must say I have had a long-festering dislike for the man going back to his early days. Probably has something to do with jealousy over all of the girls going gaga for him so it wouldn't be cool as a guy to like him. Similar to the Bon Jovi effect. I suppose of the above listed Jerry Maguire would probably be the one that I like the most since it is sports related. "Show Me The Money". I would say probably The Firm is probably my favorite involving him, since I am a big fan of John Grisham books and have enjoyed the movies related to the books. ------------- 
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 08:50
He was hired to go to Japan and train the military to put down a Samuri uprising.
Notable performances: Ken Watanabe as the Samuri leader and Billy Connolly as the sergeant that fought with Cruise against the indians.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 08:52
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 09:16
I know what it is about. Just haven't seen it.  ....although I did catch a bit of a battle on TV.------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 10:26
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All his Mission Impossible ones, Valkyrie (where he somehow nails the role of Von Stauffenberg) and The Last Samurai are my favorites. The media hates him for some reason but I think he's one of the most consistent actors of this generation. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 10:32
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I'd vote A Few Good Men if it was up there, only movie I can say I was really satisfied with his performance.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 10:39
I loved MI 1, but 2 I found underwhelming. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 11:07
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Minority Report, Collateral & War Of The Worlds were all good films (IMO), but for me, The Last Samurai tops them all - as well as Cruise playing to his best, you have Ken Watanabe, Tim Spall & even Billy Connolly giving great support.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 11:25
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Tropic Thunder, no contest.... He is hilarious in that.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 12:54
| Risky Business. It had a TD soundtrack as well. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 13:01
It's the inferior of the four for sure. -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 13:06
I thought MI:III was pretty bad as well. JJ Abrams may be good at TV, but I have been quite unimpressed with his movie career. -------------
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 13:09
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Never seen any of these ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 13:10
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Oh, wait, I've seen War of the Worlds, but that's it. No vote ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 13:57
Haven't watched MI:III yet but I'm hoping for an improvement. I've bought it so I'm to go.... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 14:05
It's a big improvment on MI:II, but given how bad that film was it couldnt have been worse. Still, an entertaining film. I voted for Collateral ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 14:49
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Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 14:51
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Where's Top Gun??? Love that movie But easily my vote goes with The Last Samurai, a truly wonderful film.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 14:55
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I'm afraid I have never forgiven him for Top Gun. The closest I have been to walking out of a film (I was with a girl I liked so I couldn't) . So the only one I have seen here is WotW and not all that good ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 15:43
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Love it or hate it, Top Gun made a lot of money.
Budget: 15 million
Box office: 353.8 million
I know that box office sales do not indicate how good or bad a movie was. It just tells you how many people bought tickets.
On a similar note;
MI-I 3rd highest grossing movie of 1996
MI-II highest grossing movie of 2000
MI-III 8th highest grossing movie of 2006
Ghost 5th highest grossing movie of 2011
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 15:47
Top Gun had some nice songs  also
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 15:49
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Agi, that is funny. I actually have the soundtrack to Days Of Thunder, but I don't think that i have ever seen the movie. -------------
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 15:51
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None of the movies on the list,because I think Born on the Fourth of July is his best film. -------------  |
Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 16:12
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I agree that Born On The Fourth Of July was one of his better movies. Willem Dafoe also gave a memorable performance and the movie was based on a real person.
As I mentioned earlier, this list reflects his later movies because he has an extensive filmography. A second poll for his earlier movies was considered.
These are some of the movies that would have been on a second poll:
Legend 1985
Top Gun 1986
The Color Of Money 1986
Rain Man 1988
Born On The Fourth Of July 1989
Days Of Thunder 1990
Far And Away 1992
A Few Good Men 1992
The Firm 1993
Interview With The Vampire 1994
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 19:18
Exactly this.  Vanilla Sky is a great film, plus Sigur Ros's Njosnavelin was featured in it.  Pretty good acting in it as well. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 21:40
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The movies that I think he is best in, you left out.... Tropic Thunder, The Color Of Money, A Few Good Men, and Rain Man. I've really never seen him as that great of an actor really, mainly his action movies though, I've hated all the Mission Impossibles, Minority Report is one of a very few movies I just could not finish watching, and the Last Samurai I didn't think was too great. But out of this list, I have to give it to Valkyrie, because that isn't a type of role he normally gets, but he did pretty good in it. Also, again tropic Thunder. Les Grossman is Tom Cruise. ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 21:53
| to me he was best early in his career; The Color of Money, Rainman, Taps, A Few Good Men |
Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 22:21
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 23:38
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 23:42
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: July 17 2012 at 23:49
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The ones I've seen with him areWar of the Worlds Tropic Thunder Austin Powers: Goldmember ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 01:57
Taps...hadn't thought about that movie in quite awhile.Never really considered it a Cruise movie because it's such a small part.Good movie though. Cruise at the end to Hutton while firing the machine gun.... "It's beautiful man....it's f**king beautiful!!!" ------------- |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 02:19
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Forget to comment on Valkyrie... excellent telling of the tale & Cruise (plus, again, a fantastic supporting cast) on great form throughout.
Others, too - Rain Man, Born On The Fourth Of July, Vanilla Sky... Makes one wonder why he gets quite so much flak  -------------
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 02:30
Cause he's a crazy egomaniac? Honestly,the whole Scientology thing really turns me off.I just can't understand why anyone would be into a religion founded by a bad sci-fi writer who started the whole thing as a tax dodge. But that's my personal opinion,and I don't mean to derail a thread about an actor with talk about religion. Just had to say my piece. ------------- |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 02:47
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I'm pretty down on the Hubbard thing myself, seemingly intelligent people(e.g. John Travolta) caught up in a philosophy of common sense they already posses. Bizarre. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 02:49
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 04:19
That's just silly talk. It's a great film, so much better than the original. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 06:25
Snowie - you can't say that!!! Everyone knows that if a film is in black & white, made at least 40/50 years ago & poorly acted, no modern re-telling can ever be as good! For Shame! -------------
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 06:26
That's it - I knew there was a reason -------------
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 06:35
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The 1958 film(which was in Technicolor) is legendary and was a milestone for special effects,for which it won an Academy Award.You can watch the film today and still be amazed at what they were able to achieve at that time. While Cruise's movie might be flashy with all the CGI and so on,in my opinion it is sub par compared to the 1958 version(which was considered important enough to merit inclusion in the National Film Registry of the Library of Congress,which attempts to preserve films that are culturally,historically,or aesthetically significant) ------------- |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 07:05
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While I haven't seen the original War of the Worlds, I'll agree that the remake was pretty lame.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 07:17
Sorry Jim. I forgot the rules. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 07:20
I never actually said the original was bad. I've seen it many times and like it and regard it with some fondness. The Spielberg version is just far more involving for me personally. What i would actually prefer above all though is a version which is actually like the book set in late 19th century England. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 07:41
I've no doubt the film was good for its time; all I'm saying is I much prefer the remake, nothing to do with the CGI (good as they were), but the sustained air of menace throughout & Cruise's everyman-father-character. There's a lot implied, rather than seen, as well: another director may have shown the passenger aircraft crash, but in this, we only see the wreckage; the same director may have shown a huge CGI generated battle, but here we only see the military disappear over the hill & are left to imagine the carnage. Considering the possibilities for large set-pieces in the remake, I think it was directed with remarkable restraint, concentrating more on the story than the effects (are you listening, whoever directed '2012'? ).-------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 07:54
How about the chilling part where the train rattles past on fire? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 09:14
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The Outsiders was a really good movie from his early days that he played a smaller role in. The cast of that movie was quite the who's who of who was going to become big movie stars before they were. What is funny is that C. Thomas Howell was the lead actor in that movie and he really didn't go on to do much else afterwards. Other actors included Patrick Swayze, Emilio Estevez, Matt Dillon, Rob Lowe, Ralph Macchio (The Karate Kid), Leif Garrett, Diane Lane, and some guy named Tom Waits.
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 09:51
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 09:59
There's also the argument that the same criticism could have been made of the first movie at the time, being compared to Orson Welles's original radio play... things change & people have their own preferences, I guess -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:06
Well at least as older members we don't automatically feel the older film was better. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:25
Many remakes are better than the originals (Fail Safe, yes, maybe even 12 Angry Men) but some are not. This is a case of that. You can't handle the truth.  -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:30
It's you that can't handle it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 10:55
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 11:47
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Minority Report, but that's mostly down to the fact that I love all the Philip K. Dick adaptations.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 12:03
I'm going to get my father on you.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 12:30
Even Paycheck? I found that one profoundly disappointing given the utter genius of the original story. -------------
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Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 12:36
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 14:35
I liked Paycheck. Not quite as good as the original story, nor up there with what was done with Blade Runner, Minority Report and Total Recall, but I still thought it was good. Love may be too strong a word for Paycheck though. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 14:50
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I also though Adjustment Bureau was pretty good.
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 15:03
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I liked The Adjustment Bureau and thought it was an interesting idea for a movie.
I've seen Matt Damon in a variety of roles and have enjoyed them all.
That is not the case with Ben Afflect though.
In regard to Paycheck, the leading role was originally offered to Matt Damon but he had prior commitments and suggested Ben Affleck for the part.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 15:34
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It would have been so much better with Damon in the lead.
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 15:57
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Yes, I think it would have been.
I don't know exactly why I can't be more of an Afflect fan.
I really liked him in Armageddon and I'm starting to come around to The Sum Of All Fears (it's still my least favorite Jack Ryan film though).
He was tolerable in Town but I still can't find a way to get him onto my Favorite Actors list.
I think it's because he always seems to come off as very arrogant no matter what role he is playing.
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 16:01
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Last Samurai was a wonderful film. Excellent historical background as well. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 16:10
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I'm surprised at how well it's done in the poll.
It was my choice from the beginning but I didn't think it would be in first place because there are some really good movies on the list.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 17:15
I never knew Tom was Japanese. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 17:34
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 17:47
Of the ones here I would have to go with Collateral, but Jerrry Maguire, Minority Report and The Last Samurai is also very good.
BTW, comedian Rich Hall is spot on about the plots in Tom Cruise's movies
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 18:01
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Surprised to see that the Mission Impossible movies didn't do so well. Four movies, one vote. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 19:16
Seconded. I really like that one. I'd probably vote for it if it was on the list; however, there are other ones I haven't seen and/or haven't given a proper ... err ... watch(ing). Of the ones I have seen that are on the list, probably "Collateral". As for WotW, I've seen it in its entirety only once. I thought it was pretty good, even though I did feel a bit underwhelmed. Maybe I should see it again, as well as the original, just for a comparison.
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 19:52
| If you do decide to watch both versions of WotW, try to think of them as two different movies instead of an original and a remake. There are a lot of differences between the two versions other than special effects. |
Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 21:42
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Neither version does an admirable job of telling Jeff Waynes Musical Version in film. IMO, the old film is way to campy and sappy. At least the newer version is more like the original tale in tone. ------------- This space intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 18 2012 at 21:59
Indeed, an American soldier finds himself wrapped in a dying Japanese culture that's rebelling against an industrialized empire. Beautiful story ending in the seppuku of Saigo Takamori of the Satsuma rebellion against the Meiji restoration government. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 00:09
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Don't like him much, but I do like Minority Report.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 02:21
I'd say because they are just generic action movies; nothing to separate them from the morass of dozens of others -------------
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 04:06
^ They sure did NOT grab me. It's not like watching, say, ... I don't know ... "The Dark Knight" with Heath Ledger. 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 04:41
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Exactly - I think TC does them just as easy money; they may not be good movies per se, but they're popular -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 04:53
I would agree with that except for the first Brian De Palma one. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 04:54
You make it sound as if Jeff Wayne was the original. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 05:32
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 05:40
Psst, you're on a progressive rock website. We don't like things just because they are popular. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 05:53
I would hope that most people here post their replies based on their opinions and not based on what type of site they are on.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 06:23
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How exactly did a series of movies in a poll do poorly in your poll? Were you expecting a massive turnout and didn't get it? ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 06:37
I'd tend to agree, to be honest - happens though with so many films which start off as a one off, then become a franchise in their own right -------------
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Posted By: GaryB
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 06:46
I have no further comment on this subject.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 08:04
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I haven't seen any of these, but I know that Eyes Wide Shut is better than all of them I voted Minority Report because Philip K Dick is awesome. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 09:04
Insinuating? ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 10:48
^ Beats me.
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