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Hangedman
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 03 2004
Location: Canada
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Points: 1261
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 23:06 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Hangedman:
If you like Franks Wild Years, do you know The Black Rider, too? I love that album ... but the vocals can make people mad (it get's everyone out of the room quickly when I play it at work).
BTW: Does anyone know Mahogany Songspiel?
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no i dont, but ill check it out (i should like it if its anything like 80's tom waits)
ps. sorry it took me so long to reply
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IDDQD
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Joined: May 20 2005
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Points: 40
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 22:45 |
Again, Gong? Angel's Egg sounds rather relaxing to me. Maybe
this is because I come from a background of listening to extreme metal
that I don't find some of these albums to be all that difficult to
listen to.
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 20:08 |
Anything by Gong....just cannot get them...............makes my blod curl.
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IDDQD
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Joined: May 20 2005
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Points: 40
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 20:07 |
Trotsky wrote:
A few that have been mentioned here already ...
Can - Tago Mago Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica Magma - Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh Gentle Giant - The Power And The Glory
plus two borderline recordings by non-prog artists
Pat Metheny - Zero Tolerance For Silence Neil Young - Arc (35 mins of feedback)
and my new favourite ... a disc I bought last week
The Enid - Aerie Faerie Nonsense ... at the moment I need little convincing about the nonsense part ... |
There are parts of Tago Mago that are difficult, but when taken
into context with Can's surronding works of that era, it's rather easy
to digest. I still haven't braved a full listen to Trout Mask
Replica, and I admit that that Magma album is difficult as hell,
but The Power and the Glory difficult? Gentle Giant is just so
nice sounding, albeit with plenty of weirdness.
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shand
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Joined: May 22 2005
Location: United States
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Points: 9
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 20:00 |
The Minstrel wrote:
What album is the hardest for you to listen to,
not because it is bad but because the music is overly bizarre or
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Seems like about half of you missed the point here. For me, it's gotta
be Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - ...Of Natural History. A great, great
album, but sometimes the dissonance and bizarreness becomes just too
much.
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IDDQD
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Joined: May 20 2005
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 19:52 |
Someone mentioned Trout Mask Replica. I think I'll second that one.
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BiGi
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Joined: June 01 2005
Location: Italy
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Points: 848
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 03:28 |
I really can't bear the kind of music based exclusively on improvisation (that's why I don't dig jazz) or compositions which lack a precise melody line.
Besides this there are some more "organic" works that I find very hard to listen through interely!
I'll make some example:
Improvisation music
I tried Can, I tried Soft Machine and the like...I failed! Moon in June communicates absolutely nothing to me, and after 5 minutes or so I'm absolutely bored! Same thing goes with Valentyne Suite by Colosseum...
Pointless compositions
Preface: I love King Crimson...I think the Wetton-era threesome are their best efforts...
Yet I simply can't get through Providence or Starless and Bible Black, or We'll let you know...they simply get on my nerves
Ditto with some Pink Floyd's experimentation like Careful with that axe, Eugene or A Saucerful of Secrets (save the last four minutes or so) or even Sysyphus and The Grand Vizier's Garden Party...
Simply HEAVY works
I like very much Spock's Beard, and I think Neal Morse is a very gifted composer...but it takes me two-three sessions to listen to Snow, Testimony and One...I must take them by little bits, otherwise I get bored and annoyed to the point I have to turn off the player! Same things happen with some Citizen Cain works (I can't handle a single complete run of Raising the Stones)
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A flower?
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BiGi
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Joined: June 01 2005
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 848
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 03:04 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
Arteum wrote:
Radiohead! Of course, I cannot stand Radiohead! You think I am just a very irritable person ... but I am usually very quiet and tolerating ... But Radiohead is killing me with its whining. I find it impossible to listen to for more than 5 minutes. |
I couldn't agree more!! One of the worst bands I've ever heard.
No Pussyfooting by Fripp and Eno is also one of the most irritating experiences of my life; 40 minutes of repetitive mindless noodling. |
Try Electronic Sounds by George Harrison and you'll tell me!
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A flower?
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AtomHeartMother
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Joined: June 18 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 229
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 03:02 |
sorry i pretty much had to review the album but i hate when ppl say they hate this album just becuasae of stupid reasons like, " oh, wheres dave, rogers voice is sooooo bad, they kicked rick out i hate roger, he jsut wines about his dad and the war."
None of these are as true as they sound and thats what anyone says the first time they listen to it, i hated it to and sayd all these things but i learned to like it for what it was and had, not for what it didnt have and ect.
good night, im off to bed
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AtomHeartMother
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Joined: June 18 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 02:45 |
boo boo wrote:
i once did some scientific research for a project, my discovery?, pink floyd's the final cut is phisicaly impossible for any creature to listen to in its entirety....scientific fact. |
What are you talking about, I love this album, its one of the best Water's album after the wall the only one better is Amused to Death. This album is so touching and beatifull, sometimes makes me want to cry, and it's the only album that does. This is one of those albums that you either love it or you hate it.
I say so what if Nick and Dave are hardly in it. When they are, they come in like a cannon and just explode and really make the album feel even more emotional. So what if Rick is absent, he didn't want to make anymore material for Roger and if he was still in the band he would have hated it and not made up any new ideas for the album justike on the wall. Not saying Rick's bad but he is easily replaced (only on this album, any others would have been very aparent, and I beleive any album before this one needed him.) and anyways, anything he made for that album would have been refused by Waters, so it's not like he could contribute. Waters wanted a slow, somber, subtle album that didn't heavily require atmosphere that Rick was good at putting on a song or album. This is a perfect album and yes it is hard the first 1-5listens, but if you really appreciate Waters then you will know it's was he has to say when he writes a song, not what he has to play, and that being said it takes someone who appreciates Waters for that to like this album.
Once you discover that there is more to this man than music you will see that he has something important to say and that's why you should like him and this album that is 100% him. It's not supposed to be Pink Floyd even though the others are in it so the best way to learn to like it is to finnally forget about what's not there and see and feel what is there. Appreciate Dave's perfect solo's, and Nick's excellent drumming that is a little rare in album's after Darkside.
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the dragon
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Joined: May 17 2005
Location: Italy
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Points: 396
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 02:08 |
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Still alive...
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Trotsky
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Joined: October 25 2004
Location: Malaysia
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Points: 2771
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 02:03 |
A few that have been mentioned here already ...
Can - Tago Mago Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica Magma - Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh Gentle Giant - The Power And The Glory
plus two borderline recordings by non-prog artists
Pat Metheny - Zero Tolerance For Silence Neil Young - Arc (35 mins of feedback)
and my new favourite ... a disc I bought last week
The Enid - Aerie Faerie Nonsense ... at the moment I need little convincing about the nonsense part ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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razifa
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Joined: June 21 2005
Location: Costa Rica
Status: Offline
Points: 224
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 01:47 |
Psychotic Waltz
I find it simply un-heardable
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**razifa**
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Sollak
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Joined: July 07 2005
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Points: 19
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 01:33 |
'Octopus' by Gentle Giant and anything by The Mars Volta... really...
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Points: 89372
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 22:45 |
Hmm, I don't really have difficulty with listening to anything after
listening to VdGG all the time! I bought Pawn Hearts the other
day (as I had never heard it) and it didn't trouble me in the slightest.
I really want Godbluff now, as I know I'll probably love it.
The only real problem I have and it's not because I dislike it, is the
second side of _Present_ by VdGG..., just a lot to listen too in one
sitting.
The same goes with the second CD of Soft Machine's Anthology
1967-1973..., it's all instrumentals and all a bit jazzy in places...
Not bad music I guess, but then I've only played it through once so
far, maybe it'll grow on me.
Oh and I have yet to really get into _Larks' Tongues In Aspic_ by King
Crimson yet either, it's just too quiet in places and not busy
enough. It's the phase I'm going through I guess, I want my music
to be busy and noisy.
Non-prog, but I found difficulty getting into The Mull Historical Society.
James.
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margaret
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Joined: May 29 2005
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Points: 139
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 22:09 |
Losendos wrote:
Anything by Tangerine Dream
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took me FOREVER to listen to Phaedra all the way through.
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margaret
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Joined: May 29 2005
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Points: 139
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 22:07 |
Lateralus_64 wrote:
The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute
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I'm in the same boat there.
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FishyMonkey
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Joined: May 13 2005
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Points: 127
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 21:50 |
VdGG. I don't get them yet, just like I REALLY didn't get Genesis for awhile. Now I quite like Genesis.
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Losendos
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Joined: June 03 2005
Location: Australia
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Points: 571
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 21:42 |
Anything by Tangerine Dream
The doubles are always taxing particularly Tales from Topographic Oceans and Umma Gumma ( can anyone listen to 4 sides straight ?). The Lamb is great but so great I agree it is exhaustinbg
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How wonderful to be so profound
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Cygnus X-2
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Joined: December 24 2004
Location: Bucketheadland
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 19:25 |
I'll say Meshuggah's Catch 33. I can't listen to it for more than about 15 minutes before wanting to put something else in. I don't really see what the big deal with them is.
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