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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2014 at 21:12
Originally posted by sherrynoland sherrynoland wrote:


Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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I just took a trip back in time ... got the first album and enjoyed it!

 

One of the liner notes is kinda funny ... what do I need a keyboard for it when I can play the part on the guitar also ... and Peter DOES!
Did you buy a vinyl reissue, or a CD? I don't think I've seen those liner notes. Anything else interesting? Would you consider reproducing them here for us?Ray says Flash managed live without keyboards and was so energetic they got by, but he thinks it was a bad decision to carry on without and they would have been better with Moraz who auditioned, or someone like him.


Interesting. I guess it would have been great if indeed thay had taken Moraz in. Perhaps he would have fared better than with Yes, given that the story of how he was kicked out was rather unpleasant.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2014 at 14:25
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
I just took a trip back in time ... got the first album and enjoyed it!
 
One of the liner notes is kinda funny ... what do I need a keyboard for it when I can play the part on the guitar also ... and Peter DOES!


Did you buy a vinyl reissue, or a CD? I don't think I've seen those liner notes. Anything else interesting? Would you consider reproducing them here for us?

Ray says Flash managed live without keyboards and was so energetic they got by, but he thinks it was a bad decision to carry on without and they would have been better with Moraz who auditioned, or someone like him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2014 at 18:09
^Thanks, I heard those excerpts, and I liked what I heard, definitely. Very interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2014 at 17:33
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

I did not discover Flash until finding a used lp copy of the debut in the early 90s. I have the first three records, and like them very much. I like them more than Yes, itself, really. 


Have you heard the new CD?  Excerpts here: https://soundcloud.com/flashbennettcarter
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2014 at 17:08
I did not discover Flash until finding a used lp copy of the debut in the early 90s. I have the first three records, and like them very much. I like them more than Yes, itself, really. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2014 at 16:41
I played some "new progrock" for Ray last night and he said to me, "If you're not evolving, you become part of the furniture."

He went on to say (I'm paraphrasing now), the only place NEW music comes from is WITHIN an individual.

I say, that's why when you hear truly original music, you can recognize the artist (not a genre). They sound like no one else.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2014 at 11:59
Hi,
 
I just took a trip back in time ... got the first album and enjoyed it!
 
One of the liner notes is kinda funny ... what do I need a keyboard for it when I can play the part on the guitar also ... and Peter DOES!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2014 at 18:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2014 at 16:49
As many of you probably know, ex-Yes and Flash guitarist Peter Banks died suddenly last year (heart failure, reportedly).  He was honored on the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremony. The outpouring of appreciation was phenomenal.  I hope Pete knows...







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2013 at 01:15
Now I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic.  You actually don't think Flash was at the top of the heap during their short 70's lifespan.  I was gonna ignore it, but I'm curious...

I'm wondering how old you are, David, and how much you actually know about Flash's history.  Or maybe we just have different definitions of "big," but they certainly satisfy mine.

They performed with most of the top bands of the day playing before hundreds of thousands of people, they toured the world, were on radio and TV, headlined at Lincoln Center in NYC, hit the charts, have had their albums reissued numerous times, and accomplished all this in 2 1/2 years before breaking up, which is the only reason they didn't become the household names some of their peers became.

I wouldn't call that "a smaller band," no.

"They've got guts, they are musicians with the chops and they've got enough insight into the mechanics of music-making to be able to offer more in the way of intelligent, innovative musicianship than nine-tenths of their contemporaries." Gordon Fletcher - ROLLING STONE






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2013 at 20:36
Flash wasn't a smaller band at the time?   Right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2013 at 20:21
By the way, Flash wasn't "a smaller band" at the time.  Remember, they had a Top 30 hit—still rare for a "prog" band.  Capitol was very enthusiastic about them and they were a terrific touring band—better live than on record.

Bubble, or not, it was great time for good music.  And that's why I'm glad they're back!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2013 at 20:18
Hmm, yes, the brief prog bubble.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2013 at 20:15
Were you being sarcastic, Atavachron?  I'm not sure, but don't be deceived by appearances.

Capitol Records spent quite a lot of money.  The band was on a small salary and lots of people were on the payroll.  When all was said and done, I believe Capitol came up short.  The band broke up on the brink of breaking even/pulling ahead.

But what's important to me, is the music.  It's still remembered and enjoyed forty years later.  That's pretty cool, don't you think? 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2013 at 19:19
Boy they spent some money for a smaller band, too bad they didn't make any


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2013 at 15:24


Flash billboard on the wall outside The Whiskey—Colin, equipment truck, roadies...1972
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2013 at 04:44
A customer review on amazon today...

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4.0 out of 5 stars Strong come-back album. Flash is back!, August 3, 2013
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This review is from: Featuring Ray Bennett & Colin Carter (Audio CD)

Sadly, I wasn't around in the heyday of progressive music. But coming from a large family of talented musicians who were, I was raised in a house where it was normal to hear Tchaikovsky and ELP back to back on any given afternoon.

While most of my generation have not even heard of Yes or ELP, I've long been a devoted fan of the great musicianship of this amazing time period in rock music history. So along comes a new Flash album! In 2013!!! Really? In 2013? This, I had to hear! Though Flash has always been one of the lesser-known bands of that period, my constant thirst for new music and hearing word of a new Flash album brought me to anxiously purchase their new CD.

Short Version: This is not a 'comeback' album by a band hoping to relive glory days of the past while offering up a mere shadow of previous works. This is a legitimate rebirth of a band that will be drawing more and more attention to themselves as this album receives more exposure.

Highlights: The album features the reunion of Ray Bennett and Colin Carter, the main song writers of Flash's best early material. And the song-writing on this album could easily be argued to be among the best in the Flash library. In fact, I could argue this may well be the best Flash album to date, when one breaks it down in detail and compares albums in this method. Carter's voice sounds more mature and complete than at any time in his career. His remake of
Manhattan Morning is gripping. His interpretation of NIN's HURT is sincere and captivating. Night Vision and Ten Thousand Movies find Carter in top form.

The bass work of Ray Bennett has always been a key signature of Flash's sound: fluid and aggressive, driving and creative. He does not disappoint on this CD. A strong argument could be made that Bennett's bass work on this new CD may be among the best bass work out today by ANY rock bassist. It's hard to pick a song that's a highlight here, all the bass work shines throughout.

There's also a new guitarist. Though some reviews here argue that Flash is not Flash without Peter Banks (RIP), I strongly disagree. Bennett's approach (yes, Bennett is also the new guitarist!) anchors the new Flash sound in a way that Banks would not be able to; clearly not for lack of ability, but because Bennett interpreting Bennett's music would naturally be more faithful than Banks interpreting Bennett's music--and of course, vice versa. So this is no slight to Banks, who was obviously a great guitarist and without question, every bit an equal reason for Flash's original success. Two different styles and approaches, that's all. Bennett's approach, though equally technical at times, is clearly more focused on melody and substance. No lacking for nice guitar parts on this album.

The nay-sayers that claim Flash has lost its technical and complex edge are not listening close enough. This music is equally challenging and complicated in its own way, more through composition and structure rather than through displays of purposeless virtuosity, which is very often the downfall of lesser creative modern 'prog' bands. But if you want virtuosity, the new album offers that as well. Again, Bennett's bass work certainly quantifies the album in this area, and though only the first Flash album truly featured keyboards, (compliments of Bank's former Yes band-mate Tony Kaye), of all Flash recordings this album easily has the finest keyboard work. One needs only to listen to the impressive keyboard flourishes throughout Night Vision, or the intricate piano work of the album's closing track, Richerd of Venice, to know that newly acquired keyboardist Daugherty is more than capable of filling this role in Flash.

The drumming is spot on, though the drumming of original member Mike Hough was more creative and adventurous.

Conclusion: Based on the quality of writing and musicianship displayed on this new album, we certainly have not heard the last of Flash. If this album is any indication of what Flash has up it's musical sleeve, they are genuinely 'back'. I think this album is at the very least as good if not better than any recent release of major prog-super-groups or recent more modern progressive bands. Hopefully they will be appearing in the Boston area at some point on tour.
I'll be there!

Check this album out. A strong piece of work. A very solid come-back album. 4 stars.

http://www.amazon.com/Featuring-Ray-Bennett-Colin-Carter/product-reviews/B00BY8DLF8/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#RKLHEOYQNSV3L


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2013 at 16:19
Colin @ the band house in Upstate NY 1974...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2013 at 17:13
Not far from it...Bill was 17, and Ray (bottom center) was 16!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2013 at 15:50
Originally posted by sherrynoland sherrynoland wrote:

Another bit of history:

BENNETT & BRUFORD'S BREED BLUES BAND BANNED!!!  (Say THAT five times, fast!)


Seems Ray and Bill's band was a tad bit controversial!!




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