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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 15:20
Originally posted by mickstafa mickstafa wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I like to get new suggestions what to listen to. The top 100 list doesn't provide any though.



Read the other reviews featured on the main page.  I rarely know all the cds that are listed by reviewers.   Plus, you get a review rather than a mere ranking number.

Also there are TONS of threads asking who people think are the more underrated bands or less heard of bands that you can read. Since you like Krautrock, click on the Krautrock link within this site and read the bios on all the bands listed there you haven't heard. If you have heard of them all then do the same for any other genre you like. I don't think I have ever used a Top 100 type of list to find new albums since I have usually heard of all the bands on those lists. Most of the lesser known bands I have found I had to do some research. Check out their websites and listen to their samples.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 14:46
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I like to get new suggestions what to listen to. The top 100 list doesn't provide any though.



Read the other reviews featured on the main page.  I rarely know all the cds that are listed by reviewers.   Plus, you get a review rather than a mere ranking number.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 14:45
... or the amazing top 7500.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 14:42

Here's a tip to see more than just the top 100.

Once you've clicked on the link which says show top 100 (after the 50th entry), the URL in the address line will look like this:

http://www.progarchives.com/?MostPopular=100

Change the number 100 in the URL to say 200, and hey presto you'll get the top 200.Big smile

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 14:07
Originally posted by Gentle Ronnie Gentle Ronnie wrote:

Is Train Of Thought or The Wall better than Io Sono Nato Libero? Definitely not.

 

by the same token, is Io Sono Nato Libero better than Train of Thought or The Wall?  Definitely not.

no artist is better than any other.  its just a matter of who you like more.  Amon Duul 2 is no better than Britney Spears...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 13:52

I like to get new suggestions what to listen to. The top 100 list doesn't provide any though.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 13:33

well, the top 100 list was very useful for me, and I'm sure alot of new people also check it out.

I do miss the Album of the Week feature though

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 13:22
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by AcdcFan411 AcdcFan411 wrote:

U guys dont know the meaning of a great band, the best band is ac dc

You know, I'm very tempted to agree there...

 

 

He's doing "..." again! I had no idea it meant IMO!

In this case it means "but they're not prog". "..." is so versatile...

Does it have to be three"..."? Does four"...." or five or more "..............." signify something different? Or are the amouint of "." dependent on ones personallity?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 13:16
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by AcdcFan411 AcdcFan411 wrote:

U guys dont know the meaning of a great band, the best band is ac dc

You know, I'm very tempted to agree there...

 

 

He's doing "..." again! I had no idea it meant IMO!

In this case it means "but they're not prog". "..." is so versatile...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 12:52
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by AcdcFan411 AcdcFan411 wrote:

U guys dont know the meaning of a great band, the best band is ac dc

You know, I'm very tempted to agree there...

 

 

He's doing "..." again! I had no idea it meant IMO!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 12:43

Originally posted by AcdcFan411 AcdcFan411 wrote:

U guys dont know the meaning of a great band, the best band is ac dc

You know, I'm very tempted to agree there...

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 10:25

gdub 411 wrote :

Okay...you kiddies need another lesson. The Top 100 list is based on number of reviews that were given to that band....nothing else....take Piper At the Gates of Dawn(rated at 31) has a 3.99 rating whereas In the Land of Grey and Pink(rated at 50) has a 4.61...

ALL THE LIST IS IS THE 100 ALBUMS THAT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED THE MOST!

End of lesson.

O.K. father,

Here is your lesson : the mechanism is to time the average rate by the number of reviews. So if 297 rated DT's Train of thought and it's average rate is 3.2 than the result will be approx' 1000. This will put it in a very good place in the list. On the other hand Talk talk's "Spirit of eden" that it's average is 4.82 but only reviewed by 11 people will get the result of 53.02 and therefor will not be on the top 100 list.

End of lesson, start of discussion :

A month ago, after understanding that mechanism I wrote a thread that suggested a diferent list of the highly rated albums (by lets say 10 reviews or more). This kind of list will be much more diverse and more representative cause to be on that one you only need few that will review the album but all of them should love the album. I also think that kind of a list will be a better tool to find some beatiful music you (and I) do'nt know yet.

P.S. calling every one else kiddies and then be wrong in understanding ....... well, maybe you be a beat more polite next time !

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 10:18
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I love the over-reactions to my post - absolute classic stuff!!!

Note I used pop (small p) as a way of distinguishing from Pop. Nowhere did I suggest that CTTE is Pop music - but there's no denying it's popular.

 

But my personal favourite is this one;

Originally posted by The-Bullet The-Bullet wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


I hate to see any Yes or Dream Theater rated as highly or higher than Marillion, Pink Floyd, Tull, KC, Rush or Genesis when it quite blatantly isn't true...


"Quite blatantly" -, what do you base this on, or did you just forget to add "in my opinion" ?

Did you notice the "..."?

That was intended to convey the fact that I was taking the piss. The "IMO" was quite clearly implied.

I can see this year's intake are going to be hard work,Professor Cert !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 10:18
OK Cert I've just done a google search on "..." and can't find any reference to mickey taking or opinion stating...

"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 10:12

I love the over-reactions to my post - absolute classic stuff!!!

Note I used pop (small p) as a way of distinguishing from Pop. Nowhere did I suggest that CTTE is Pop music - but there's no denying it's popular.

 

But my personal favourite is this one;

Originally posted by The-Bullet The-Bullet wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


I hate to see any Yes or Dream Theater rated as highly or higher than Marillion, Pink Floyd, Tull, KC, Rush or Genesis when it quite blatantly isn't true...


"Quite blatantly" -, what do you base this on, or did you just forget to add "in my opinion" ?

Did you notice the "..."?

That was intended to convey the fact that I was taking the piss. The "IMO" was quite clearly implied.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 09:52

Originally posted by mickstafa mickstafa wrote:

Yeah, this topic used to be interesting, now its just bitter people mad that their more "obscure" cds aren't in a top 100 list.  I think I speak for many for saying if it weren't for the "big guys," I wouldn't be into this genre.  I only know the more obscure stuff because of my interest for more prog. 

But once again, we've come to a thread that is about people posting personal opinions as if they are fact.  More well-known albums will get more reviews and if those albums are good, then they will get on this list.  That's the bottom line.  Its no conspiracy or anything like that.

I'm neither mad nor bitter that my "obscure" CDs aren't in the top 100. My only aim is to expand the spectrum of music of those who listen to the big guns only. In the forest of prog the prettiest flowers grow further in the wilderness; the ones who stay close to the main path through it will never see them. There are some beautiful mushrooms too, but many will take them for toadstools and don't dare to pick them. Some of these toadstools only need to be "cooked" though (listened to closely repeatedly) to become edible and very delicious.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 09:41
Originally posted by mickstafa mickstafa wrote:


But once again, we've come to a thread that is about people posting
personal opinions as if they are fact.  More well-known albums
will get more reviews and if those albums are good, then they will get
on this list.  That's the bottom line.  Its no conspiracy or
anything like that.



that's the bottom line? is that a fact?

i mostly agree with you.

but you can't accuse people for posting personal opinions as facts, and then end your post with "that's the bottom line".
hypocrisy!!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 09:26
Yeah, this topic used to be interesting, now its just bitter people mad that their more "obscure" cds aren't in a top 100 list.  I think I speak for many for saying if it weren't for the "big guys," I wouldn't be into this genre.  I only know the more obscure stuff because of my interest for more prog. 

But once again, we've come to a thread that is about people posting personal opinions as if they are fact.  More well-known albums will get more reviews and if those albums are good, then they will get on this list.  That's the bottom line.  Its no conspiracy or anything like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 09:14

This topic sucks. It's as if I complained why 50 Cent has more fans than Gentle Giant.

Obviously, the top 100 is a list of albums that are more popular. Is Train Of Thought or The Wall better than Io Sono Nato Libero? Definitely not.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 08:55

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

1.   Clearlight - Symphony
2.   Gong - You
3.   Magma - Live
4.   Henry Cow - Western Culture
5.   Van der Graaf Generator - Vital
6.   Guru Guru - Känguru
7.   Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn
8.   Soft Machine - Third
9.   Roman Bunka Band - Dein Kopf ist ein schlafendes Auto
10. Froese, Edgar - Epsilon in Malaysian Pale
11. Klaus Schulze - Timedance
12. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (surprise, surprise )
13. Embryo - Embryo's Reise
14. Matching Mole - Little Red Record
15. 801 - Live
16. Gentle Giant - Octopus
17. Gryphon - Red Queen To Gryphon Three
18. Kraan - Live
19. Hammill, Peter - The Fall Of The House Of Usher
20. Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri
21. Blegvad, Peter and Greaves, John - Kew / Rhone
22. King Crimson - Lizard
23. Art Bears - Winter Songs
24. Amon Düül 2 - Tanz der Lemminge
25. Aera - Live
26. Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow
27. High Tide - Sea Shanties
28. Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour
29. Can - Tago Mago
30. Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond
31. Dzyan - Electric Silence
32. Catapilla - Catapilla
33. Faust - Faust
34. Hillage, Steve - Live Herald
35. Hawkwind - Warrior On The Edge Of Time
36. Annexus Quam - Osmose
37. Yatha Sidra- A Meditation Mass
38. Hoelderlin - Of Clowns and Clouds
39. Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North
40. Mother Gong - Fairy Tales
41. Schnitzler, Conrad - Con
42. Schoener, Eberhard - Bali Agung
43. Popol Vuh - In den Gärten Pharaos
44. Planet Gong - Live Floating Anarchy
45. Focus - Moving Waves
46. Fripp, Robert - Exposure (I prefer the vinyl version, it has a better version of "Disengaged"
47. Eno, Brian - Another Green World
48. Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors
49. Khan - Space Shanties
50. Azachel - Arzachel

 

Cool list BaldJean

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