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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 01:24
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Jean-Luc Picard, try to search youtube for some UZ JSME DOMA songs, tell me what do you think about them :-)

And by the way, you're probably right, there can't be progression of Punk, this genre is opposite of Prog by nature. However, we can appreciate Avant-Garde Punk groups as they are much more closer to how we understand Prog.

 
Absolutely untrue.
 
Progressive simply means evolving into something new or going foward. Punk didn't lack in innovation and it spawned off into post punk, new wave and alternative rock which all produced some very progressive music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2010 at 22:13
Definitely Coheed and Cambria ( with tinges of metal and emo, could call it pronkemeto) and The Mars Volta's first album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2010 at 21:56
At the Drive In did this with their last album, Relationship of Command. Very clear and defined prog rock influences in the sound.
Perhaps a step further of this was the band Refused, with their album The Shape of Punk to Come.
Fundamentally a hardcore band, but musically it was a mile away from straight out hardcore.
Challenging arrangements and musicianship and extreme levels of creativity going on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2010 at 21:38
Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

Primus are on this site...I'm still trying to figure out why...


Because Primus are badass?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2010 at 18:17
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

And by the way, you're probably right, there can't be progression of Punk, this genre is opposite of Prog by nature.

 
 
 
Poor people, blinded by genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2010 at 16:34

Jean-Luc Picard, try to search youtube for some UZ JSME DOMA songs, tell me what do you think about them :-)

And by the way, you're probably right, there can't be progression of Punk, this genre is opposite of Prog by nature. However, we can appreciate Avant-Garde Punk groups as they are much more closer to how we understand Prog.

There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2010 at 14:44
Avant-garde punk, maybe - progressive punk, I doubt it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2010 at 08:50
This Cardiac sound its very interesting in deed... Can be "Swans" be consider a prog/punk band?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2010 at 06:30
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Originally posted by Falx Falx wrote:

Uz Jsme Doma, definitely.

Oh yeah, taking the best from both Punk and according Prog genres into raw, wild performance. With even weirder lyrics, which most of you won't (sadly) understand.

I don't understand them, but they have English translations on their website Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 19:42
Killing Joke is the best example I got
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 19:35

Originally posted by Falx Falx wrote:

Uz Jsme Doma, definitely.


Oh yeah, taking the best from both Punk and according Prog genres into raw, wild performance. With even weirder lyrics, which most of you won't (sadly) understand.

There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 19:20
The Boredoms have a punk aesthetic. And Iceburn (who are not on the site but definitely should be) started out as a hardcore outfit with horns and got increasingly RIO/Jazz-fusiony and generally wierd and spastic.
 
Also there's a punkish band called Titus Andronicus who just did a concept album about the civil war called The Monitor. Ends with a 14 minute song called The Battle Of Hampton Roads which is very prog, even has a bagpipe segment.
 
The elephant in the room is Green Day's last two albums which were both concepts. American Idiot has two 9 minute songs, both quite proggy with multiple movements, Jesus Of Suburbia and Homecoming.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 14:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 14:24
The Cure's "Faith" album is quite space-rocky and psychedelic. By the way it's a really great album, one of the few "simple" albums that has magic...
"Ffffaaahhh, seeko baaaaaa
Neeeeee toe, kare lo yeahhh
Sa sa sa sa saa! Fssss
Drrrrrrrrr bo ki!
Rapateeka! do go taaaam
Rapateeka! do go tchaa"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 13:34


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 13:31
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 13:30
Cardiacs are fine. Sometimes. Pronk almost rhymes with drunk, I think that is the state of mind they works best :)
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 01:00
Cardiacs are the godfather of the 'pronk' sound (=punk+prog)
 
They are also my favourite band
 
ever.
 
Sing to God part 1 & 2 is also my all time favourite album.
 
Check em out! recently all their albums were uploaded on Itunes.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 00:43
Uz Jsme Doma, definitely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2010 at 23:58
Primus are on this site...I'm still trying to figure out why...
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