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PROGMAN
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 05:08 |
There's two bands called NIRVANA I listen to
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 23:02 |
down-go wrote:
Have you seen Courtney, love? |
OHWHATAGIVEAWAY! Flirty!
Have you seen my etchings, darling?
(Courtney who, BTW?)
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 22:25 |
I think the way our society tends to idolize (famous) suicides (and celebs who die young in general) is SICK.
The music's angst & anger may "speak" to the young, but KC was a grown man.
Suicide is a supremely violent, hateful, cowardly act, which deeply and permanently hurts those who love the victim. A brave, intelligent adult knows when to seek help. Men stay to face and fight their problems, deal with reality, and try to improve their lot -- boys just run away.
Cobain was obviously deeply troubled and sick, and lacked the strength of character to fight his demons -- why is he then a hero?
(The songs did NOTHING for me, either. His pain and anger was not mine, and I found the music grating.)
No insult meant to all the Nirvana/KC fans out there, mind you, but Cobain's posthumous elevation to near-sainthood reflects an unhealthy death-obsessed youth and music culture, IMO.
Sometimes, your best career move, when you've climbed too far, too fast, is to die -- the gorier the death, the more we seem to relish it.
Sick.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Hangedman
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 22:21 |
I like it, Nirvana used to be my favourite band when i was 12
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 22:00 |
Have you seen Courtney Love?
I'd first blow my head off too. E'gad, what a monster.
I like some Nirvana stuff, but I never thought it to be much more than teen angst whining for the coffee drinkin' heroin crowd. Too bad they didn't know how to tune a guitar.
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 18:49 |
I've never liked any of Cobain's music, and just don't get why he is supposed to be such a heroic, important figure.
Oh wait -- he killed himself and died young. That's "cool," right?
Anger, despair and self-loathing are such admirable traits....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Ben2112
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 16:42 |
Crimson Prince wrote:
I have read them and am a bit frightened. He seemed to be a pretty angry guy. Does anyone here like Nirvana and the music of Kurt Cobain? |
To me, Nirvana was always a distant fourth in the Seattle scene behind Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, & Mudhoney. Still good though...some of the catchiest melodies in heavy music's history.
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goose
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 16:32 |
He does the Meat Puppets better than the Meat Puppets do. The Vaselines too. He was definitely a good pop songwriter (if not guitarist ), it's just a shame he was held up as a shining example of rebellion .
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Joren
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 13:10 |
I used to like it... now I enjoy prog
but I still think he wrote some beautiful songs, and I think Unplugged In new York is very nice
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Velvetclown
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 13:09 |
Nope
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 10:58 |
I have read them and am a bit frightened. He seemed to be a pretty angry guy. Does anyone here like Nirvana and the music of Kurt Cobain?
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