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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 23:02 | |
Nile is too much for me. And I like some brutal/crazy stuff!
Anyone know of the bands: Coroner and Path of Debris? My brother said they're progressive-ish but hes not to into that stuff, so I dont know how right he is |
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 19:27 | |
Yeah, I would never consider them for inclusion. But they are one of the most progressive bands out there that remain outside of the prog umbrella.
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TheProgtologist
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 18:17 | |
Never really considered Nile worthy of inclusion here.While I really dig them,they are pretty much a brutal death band,imho.Just because their lyrical content is influenced by ancient Egypt and they incorporate some middle eastern influences in their music doesn't make them proggy.Heck,Karl Sanders solo albums are more worthy of inclusion if you ask me(but not in any PM sub).
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moe_blunts
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 18 2008 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 617 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 18:17 | |
I'd disagree with that. Nile is not progressive, nor is Necrophagist or Spawn of Possession, etc. etc.
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topofsm
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 17:42 | |
^ Yes, and I find Nile in general pretty progressive. It might be just me, but I think their approach is much more progressive than a lot of the Tech/Extreme bands already here.
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 15:29 | |
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
Superb album, for any fan of death metal this is a must have, especially the song User~Maat~Re. |
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Mr ProgFreak
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 14:43 | |
http://progfreak.com/Emperor,_dbe,artists,_auto_5163283.xhtml
There aren't many votes regarding the progressiveness of the albums ... you're welcome to add your opinion! |
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UMUR
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3073 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 14:28 | |
Iīm not much of an Emperor fan ( I prefer Samothīs Zyklon if I listen to anything from those gentlemen) but I agree that Prometheus is their most progressive album. |
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moe_blunts
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 18 2008 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 617 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 14:16 | |
One of my first actions as a member was recommending Gorguts to the archive. It would be wonderful if they got in.
And Obsucra is not their only progressive album. From Wisdom to Hate and The Erosion of Sanity both have very proggy moments. As for Emperor, their most progressive album (and their worst, imo) is Prometheus. |
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Jake Kobrin
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 20 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1303 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 13:22 | |
It's one of my all time favorites as well. Strangely I can never remember the full title so I mostly just call it "Anthems". |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 10:28 | |
That's cool, I hear you there. However, that being the case...I don't want to hear people complain about "X" does not belong here! |
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Necromancer
Forum Newbie Joined: May 07 2009 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 33 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 09:36 | |
Strange, thats one of my favourite albums ever. I love "With Strength I Burn"... Oh, and it's "Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk" |
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Jake Kobrin
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 20 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1303 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 02:51 | |
Well there are plenty of bands like that already in the archives. Some big names would be The Beatles, The Who, Rush, etc.
There also plenty who were prog but then stopped releasing prog: Genesis, Yes, Wishbone Ash, etc. |
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UMUR
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3073 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 02:13 | |
I donīt agree with the "only" progressive albums catagory. Either everything is here or nothing is. Itīs important to know an artistīs full discography to understand their development IMO.
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 01:20 | |
Well, it is a little late now... Besides, the classical progressive bands would be fine. I think it should only be for albums from overall NON prog bands. For example, Death. Overall, there is no way you can call them progressive metal. They are a death metal band, and they should not be here...however, they do have prog metal albums. And its in THOSE cases a "Prog Album" section would be used for. |
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Queen By-Tor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: May 10 2009 at 01:05 | |
okay - let's remove half the albums from the classic progressive bands then and not offer reviews for new albums until they've each been individually approved by the already non-stop working teams.
Sounds awesome. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: May 09 2009 at 22:46 | |
Thank You! Thats what I never got. There is all this debate about whether or not a band is prog or not, or if a metal band with 7 albums but 3 are prog should they make it in based on a few? It would be so much easier to have a prog album section for all those. |
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Mr ProgFreak
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
Posted: May 09 2009 at 12:20 | |
Just remember that while you're arguing about their addition you can rate and tag those albums at PF ... where they are already listed as Prog (at least Obscura and Alien, I looked them up).
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UMUR
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3073 |
Posted: May 09 2009 at 12:04 | |
Gorguts would fit like a glove in the Tech/ extreme catagory because of Obscura. I fully agree. Strapping as well for the Alien album. |
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lucas
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Posted: May 09 2009 at 07:37 | |
We should keep in mind that ProgArchives aim at being the ultimate source of progressive music.
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