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refugee 
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 Posted: July 28 2009 at 07:18 |
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A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers?
It gets all the praise it deserves, so it’s not underrated.
It deserves all the praise it gets, so it’s not overrated.
Peter Hammill’s Flight, on the other hand, is an excellent epic that is rarely mentioned. So if not exactly underrated, I surely think it’s undermentioned.
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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 21:50 |
 KingCrimson250 wrote:
Overrated epic (and overrated being understood to mean a song that many others seem to enjoy that I don't really get anything out of, in anticipation of the inevitable floods of people who will talk about how overrated and underrated are meaningless, or whatever): Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. I always see VDGG fans defend this one as being up there with Supper's Read and Close to the Edge, but I don't really think it is. I feel that it just gets bogged down. I think there's a good eight minute section in the middle of it where my interest just vanishes entirely.
I'm not even sure if there is such thing as an underrated epic, because when someone releases an album, a twenty minute song is inevitably going to receive the most attention. I think I might say Marsbeli Kronikak by Solaris. Although, I haven't heard that one in years, so that might just be nostalgia talking.
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VdGG fans don't "defend" "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers"; there is absolutely no reason to defend it.  If you don't like it, fine; that's your problem. I definitely prefer it to "Supper's Ready" and "Close to the Edge", both of which are a bit too tame for my taste. I consider "The Gates of Delirium" to be a lot better than "Close to the Edge", simply because it bites more.
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progvortex
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 21:25 |
Calculate900 wrote:
"A Saucerful of Secrets" seems pretty underrated to me. I really don't hear of it much anywhere, especially since it was one of the most experimental moments of Pink Floyd's career.
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Very true. But it gives me nightmares.
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progvortex
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 21:24 |
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I think Procol Harum's In Held Twas In I is a fairly underrated epic, considering it was one of the first prog epics.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 10:25 |
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Not underrated, simply too little known: All three epics on Mother Gong's album "Fairy Tales":
Wassilisa 22: 28
The Three Tongues 12:41
The Pied Piper 14:38
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tdfloyd
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 10:03 |
Green Shield Stamp wrote:
Overrated - the album Images and Words by Dream Theater
Criminally underrated - the album The Final Cut by Pink Floyd |
Have to agree with The Final Cut as criminally underrated.
Overrated - Tubular Bells. I have three versions of it as I thought I was missing something, but it just doesn't click for me. Olffield can remix and rerecord it 10 more times, but I'm done with it.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: July 25 2009 at 23:23 |
Tearful Jester wrote:
This Strange Engine by Marillion is sooo underrated. |
Yes it is - In my top 5 songs EVER
EDIT:
Ocean Cloud by Marillion is also amazing...ly underrated.
Edited by progkidjoel - July 25 2009 at 23:24
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progkidjoel
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Posted: July 25 2009 at 23:22 |
Gooner wrote:
overrated: PORCUPINE TREE - "Anesthetize"(the predictability has run its course...although I've been a fan since early '90s so I'm "Tree'd out). |
I'd agree its overrated, but, the last 6 minutes are amazing... The rest of the track, other than the awesome drum track, is a bit... Meh.
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peivde
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Posted: July 25 2009 at 11:23 |
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over: supersready
moving pictures
under: A Saucerful of Secrets
Camel
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Tearful Jester
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 17:13 |
This Strange Engine by Marillion is sooo underrated.
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"When you grow up and leave the playground
Where you kissed your prince and found your frog
Remember the jester who showed you tears; a script for tears"
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KingCrimson250
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 01:19 |
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Overrated epic (and overrated being understood to mean a song that many others seem to enjoy that I don't really get anything out of, in anticipation of the inevitable floods of people who will talk about how overrated and underrated are meaningless, or whatever): Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. I always see VDGG fans defend this one as being up there with Supper's Read and Close to the Edge, but I don't really think it is. I feel that it just gets bogged down. I think there's a good eight minute section in the middle of it where my interest just vanishes entirely.
I'm not even sure if there is such thing as an underrated epic, because when someone releases an album, a twenty minute song is inevitably going to receive the most attention. I think I might say Marsbeli Kronikak by Solaris. Although, I haven't heard that one in years, so that might just be nostalgia talking.
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geoburch
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Posted: June 15 2009 at 22:49 |
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How about for an underrated epic - In The Dead of Night/By the Light of Day/In the Dead of Night(reprise) by UK. I won't make any fans for this, but even though Rush is one of my favorite bands of all time, I think 2112 is overrated.
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prog4evr
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 22:10 |
Finnforest wrote:
Over: Close to the Edge
Under: Tales (pick one)
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Agree with CTTE title track as a bit overrated (though the Mander Pipe Organ interlude is awesome!) Would change your underrated selections (any from ToTO) to "Awaken" from GFTO. Why doesn't anyone else think this is one of the best songs Yes ever did?
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paulwalker71
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Posted: June 08 2009 at 18:54 |
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I think Grendel is overrated. It somehow developed cult status, but once you get down to listening it isn't anything more than a sub-standard Genesis knock off.
One that never seems to get mentioned is Fand by The Enid - a wonderfully coherent piece that is the very definition of 'epic'
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Calculate900
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Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:15 |
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"A Saucerful of Secrets" seems pretty underrated to me. I really don't hear of it much anywhere, especially since it was one of the most experimental moments of Pink Floyd's career.
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misterfool
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Posted: June 08 2009 at 12:04 |
overated epics 2112,rush reflection tool and last but not least cinema show Genesis
Underrated epics
Battle of epping forrest Genesis. Plague of Lighthouse Keepers VDGG ghost love score Nightwish and last but not least L'auberge du Sanglier Caravan
Edited by misterfool - June 08 2009 at 12:15
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the point of war is not to die for your country
it's to make the other one die for his
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catfood03
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Posted: June 05 2009 at 20:11 |
MFP wrote:
catfood03 wrote:
Underrated: "Halleluwah" (from Tago Mago) by Can |
Seconded
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Indeed, the funkiest 18 minutes committed to tape!
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Gooner
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Posted: June 05 2009 at 13:44 |
underrated = ATOLL's "Tunnel Part 1 & 2"
overrated = seconded Rush's "Cygnus X-1"
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MFP
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Posted: June 05 2009 at 09:30 |
catfood03 wrote:
Underrated: "Halleluwah" (from Tago Mago) by Can |
Seconded
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catfood03
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 23:34 |
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Underrated: "Halleluwah" (from Tago Mago) by Can
Overrated: "Cygnus X-1" (from Farewell to Kings) by Rush
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