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Lynx33 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 500 |
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Oh, yes. the previous one is an answer to Ronnie Pilgrim's post to my post
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Mindez elmúlt. Ma már tudom köszönteni a szépséget.
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Lynx33 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 500 |
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At least we know what Jethro Tull is (if you get this joke taken from the film Armageddon). Nevertheless, you're probably right on Jethro Tull, too many times I'm sticking to term progressive as having the meaning of something revolutionary redeeming the world, something musically and artistically superiority and singularity, something not have been told yet. And I hear too often that this is progressive, that is progressive, then almost everything is progressive. I think we should spare this term in case of bands mentioned just because they have keyboard-oriented structures and real-world noises and samplers. Personally, my biggest problem with bands like PF, JT, ELP, Yes, that the singing voice spoils everything, partly because they have squealery voice, and partly the singing narrows and restrains the capacity of music to broaden wide. I like when music is freely emanating capsizing every -ism and every barrier. Sure, these bands good moments and affability. But not the same category as the one Mozart belongs in, if you know what I mean.
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Mindez elmúlt. Ma már tudom köszönteni a szépséget.
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Ronnie Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: The South of TX Status: Offline Points: 771 |
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Ronnie Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: The South of TX Status: Offline Points: 771 |
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Well , that's precisely my point. Maybe I'm an optimist, but when I read members comments it helps me to determine if I want to engage them in further discussion or just ignore them. But I must disagree about at least one Jethro Tull album, which does have depth, concept, beautiful lyrics, and takes some brains to figure out. And it isn't the one that is praised to death on this site, either.
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Lynx33 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 500 |
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I think this is absurd. PF never can come close to Mozart. Mozart is a pure genius, just like Beethoven, Brahms, Scriabin, Liszt, Chopin, Mendelssohn, Bach, D. Scarlatti, Prokofiev, Schumann etc. If somebody says that Mozart's music is boring, they are not mature enough to talk about it. None of PF's music can be up to their depth in music. And I think this can be also said about a lot of bands praised to death on this site, though I like real progressive music, which Pink Floyd is not, it's decadent, anachronistic, boring and without any value just like ELP, Jethro Tull, Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, Neal Morse solo and so on. No revolution anymore in them to Take hold of the flame (hint at QR on purpose). No offence.
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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The Truth ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 19 2009 Location: Kansas Status: Offline Points: 21795 |
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Pink Floyd, personally Mozart makes me sleepy but it's nothing personal. He really did change a lot of music for the better.
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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What a silly poll.
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Alitare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2008 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 3595 |
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Good to see you love Roger Waters, too. |
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Ronnie Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: The South of TX Status: Offline Points: 771 |
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Well I, for one, am glad the OP posted this poll. It tells me a lot about the membership of PA. Yeah, it's like comparing apples and oranges, but we learn a lot about people by what they choose and say.
![]() I voted for the musical genius.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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This is exactly the thread that had to be resuscitated....
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I also think Pink Floyd could destroy Mozart with their lasers. Wolfie didn't have access to any electronics if I'm not mistaken.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Gandalff ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 07 2007 Location: Middle-Earth Status: Offline Points: 4214 |
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Mad (but surprisingly successful) poll! Can we compare apples with melons? I think to creating a madder poll yet. Something like "King Crimson vs. Pavarotti"...
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
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sydbarrett2010 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 08 2010 Location: iran Status: Offline Points: 595 |
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that's a silly poll
but pink floyd gets my vote Edited by sydbarrett2010 - August 17 2010 at 15:51 |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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or "Don Giovanni", the greatest of all operas. Mozart is not poppy at all. it is true though that he can easily be played "poppy", at least some of his works. for example, the "Rondo alla Turca", but that is only the 3rd movement of his piano sonata No. 11. it is not Mozart's fault that some radio stations will play that movement only instead of the whole sonata, thus giving the impression he was "poppy", and so with many others of his works |
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lolwut?
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LeStaf ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: February 26 2009 Location: Québec Status: Offline Points: 92 |
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How dare you post such an eclectic poll?
![]() These two musics are so far away one from the other that it just not honest to answer it. It's all in the mood, and everyone knows mood's for a day. Yes, indeed.
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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Well, you know, Wish you were here is nich and Dark side very good too... but... c´mon, you don´t f**k around when it comes to Mozart!
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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For sheer quantity, Mozart. For proximity, Floyd.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Alitare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2008 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 3595 |
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I voted Mozart, but would choose Floyd. Because I am fun like that. My question is.. what the hell would you play these albums with on a desert island? I mean, I'd be hard pressed to find an electrical outlet somewhere. Maybe, melt some sand into glass, use the glass as a ramshackle energy conductor with water wheels and all sorts of fancy gadgetry from all the best sci-fi B movies?
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