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Poll Question: Which do you prefer?
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Can - it's a total no-brainer for me, although I'd be intrigued to hear DT cover Tago Mago or Ege Bamyesi.
 
UnCANnily enough, Pinch came up on my itunes shuffle (out of almost 12000 tracks) just as I typed that.
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Never been a fan of Can, even today i listened to Tago Mago and it bored me, while i once enjoyed DT music, something that Can never did with me.

So despite i don't listen to DT anymore, if i voted, it would be for them, but i won't vote anyways

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Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

HOLY SH**! DT'S STILL WINNING AND HASN'T GOTTEN SERIOUSLY FLAMED YET?!?!ShockedLOL I think this just made my day.Big%20smile DT for me of course. As much as I like Tago Mago, it just doesn't compete with any of DT's album for me, except maybe Octavarium.
*Ducks rocks*


This is actually a pretty close race. Look at them go! Big%20smile

*is careful to say who he voted for* LOL
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HOLY SH**! DT'S STILL WINNING AND HASN'T GOTTEN SERIOUSLY FLAMED YET?!?!ShockedLOL I think this just made my day.Big%20smile DT for me of course. As much as I like Tago Mago, it just doesn't compete with any of DT's album for me, except maybe Octavarium.
*Ducks rocks*
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Despite the amount of hate mail Dream Theater seem to inspire round here at times they've released some great albums and I'm a big fan where as with Can I'm a more selective listener though they do have some great moments like Mother Sky. I haven't heard enough tracks like this from them to compete with DT though.
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Let's see... Can hasn't really made any songs I like, but they haven't made any songs I hate. Dream Theater has tons of songs that I hate so I'll go with Can.
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Mmm.... Dream Theater vs some crazy germans high on grass that play incoherent tunes.....
 
I'll go with DT here... But caution: I've only heard Tago Mago. Maybe I'm ill-advised...
 
But anyway, I'd go with DT. They're my favorite after all...
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Not a huge fan of either, but I'll have to go with Can here.

Edit: and by the way... LOL at this poll!


Edited by splyu - September 11 2008 at 15:20
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DT got me into prog , but my vote goes to CAN.

For the sake of future days !
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The only thing I like from Can is "Monster Movie". Then, I own all Dream Theater studio albums + A Change of Seasons. "Awake" and "Images and Words" qualify to be all-time classics for me, and at least three other are a great listen. So, guess my vote ;)
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I want me some Tago Mago.
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Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I still haven't explored Kraut that greatly.... Didn't have the same impact on me on the whole as other categories music.  it's not up there for me on the whole with say Zeuhl/ RIO/ Canterbury, though people who love those categories commonly love Krautrock).



Same here, really - I don't hate the albums I listed, but they don't have near the same impact on me as Magma, National Health, Henry Cow, etc.
 
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I still haven't explored Kraut that greatly.... Didn't have the same impact on me on the whole as other categories music.  it's not up there for me on the whole with say Zeuhl/ RIO/ Canterbury, though people who love those categories commonly love Krautrock).



Same here, really - I don't hate the albums I listed, but they don't have near the same impact on me as Magma, National Health, Henry Cow, etc.
 
Yes, now we're going to keep a close eye on youLOLLOLWink.....just make sure you don't do any reckless votes like this oneLOLWink
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I still haven't explored Kraut that greatly.... Didn't have the same impact on me on the whole as other categories music.  it's not up there for me on the whole with say Zeuhl/ RIO/ Canterbury, though people who love those categories commonly love Krautrock).



Same here, really - I don't hate the albums I listed, but they don't have near the same impact on me as Magma, National Health, Henry Cow, etc.
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Points: 36987 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2008 at 13:39
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I suspect that you need to explore more Krautrock.



You might be right, but let me give you a list of what I've heard so far:

Amon Duul II:  Phallus Dei, Yeti, Wolf City
AR & Machines: Echo
Can:  Tago Mago
Faust:  So Far, Faust
Neu!:  Neu! '75
Guru Guru:  I forget the name of the album, it has Dagobert Duck on it.

And there's been not one among these that I've been really impressed with*.  Surely this is a fair enough representation and sufficient data for the Krautrock scene that I can make my determination, no?

edit:  actually I think I like the Guru Guru album the best, I probably will get more from that group.

* IMO, obviously


You do know a lot.  Guru Guru is great (should have thought of that as one you might like).  Re my suggestion, please do check out the Agitation Free streaming mp3 at this site if you haven't already (see links below album).  Note: I do think that that is a particularly good track.
And a myspace page: Agitation Free - "AGITATION FREE"

But if one's not much into psych... (my favourite psych is often Psych Folk i.e. Acid Folk).
I still haven't explored Kraut that greatly.... Didn't have the same impact on me on the whole as other categories music.  it's not up there for me on the whole with say Zeuhl/ RIO/ Canterbury, though people who love those categories commonly love Krautrock).
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2008 at 13:22
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I suspect that you need to explore more Krautrock.



You might be right, but let me give you a list of what I've heard so far:

Amon Duul II:  Phallus Dei, Yeti, Wolf City
AR & Machines: Echo
Can:  Tago Mago
Faust:  So Far, Faust
Neu!:  Neu! '75
Guru Guru:  I forget the name of the album, it has Dagobert Duck on it.

And there's been not one among these that I've been really impressed with*.  Surely this is a fair enough representation and sufficient data for the Krautrock scene that I can make my determination, no?

edit:  actually I think I like the Guru Guru album the best, I probably will get more from that group.

* IMO, obviously


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As a different approach, you could start with a tribute to DT album


2007
String Quartet Tribute to Dream Theater
not rated

or a DT tribute to Metallica album


2003
Master Of Puppets
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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2008 at 12:54
Originally posted by listen listen wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


Originally posted by listen listen wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Dream Theater.  Not a big krautrock fan in general, have Tago Mago and wasn't really impressed, although it deserves some more listens.  Even were I to compile more Can albums I don't think I'd like them as much as DT (I'm sure I'll get flayed by some for this opinion).


Try Future Days
I might....then again I might not.  Tongue


I've never gotten into Dream Theater, but I'm open to giving them another try. I have Scenes from a memory and think its okay... Any recommendations?



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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Dream Theater.  Not a big krautrock fan in general, have Tago Mago and wasn't really impressed, although it deserves some more listens.  Even were I to compile more Can albums I don't think I'd like them as much as DT (I'm sure I'll get flayed by some for this opinion).


I suspect that you need to explore more Krautrock.  For Can, I prefer Ege Bamyasi.

Like Antoine, my favourite really is Amon Duul II.  And I love Agitation Free.

Here's a great album that I would have thought you'd like considerably.


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AGITATION FREE
Malesch
(1972)

Not to kick DT when it's down (Cans are more kickable), but I much prefer Can.  And I am CANadian.
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