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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:55
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

great choice Pablo.. great choice indeed. Clap


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:54
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Haven't had the chance to hear any of his solo works, but I'd certainly like to!


It's a MK 3-4 classical rock album. Has some great vocals from Dave and Glenn, and some funky keys going on there, with some excellent classical composition and odd opera singer. The album is an excellent show of Jon Lord playing what he loves, classical and hard rock.

Sarabande is another one, though it's totally instrumental, and still don't completly, actually like classical music.

Have you heard Concerto Mick?


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great choice Pablo.. great choice indeed. Clap


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:33
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Haven't had the chance to hear any of his solo works, but I'd certainly like to!


It's a MK 3-4 classical rock album. Has some great vocals from Dave and Glenn, and some funky keys going on there, with some excellent classical composition and odd opera singer. The album is an excellent show of Jon Lord playing what he loves, classical and hard rock.

Sarabande is another one, though it's totally instrumental, and still don't completly, actually like classical music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:26
Haven't had the chance to hear any of his solo works, but I'd certainly like to!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:24
An excellent Purpleish classical album. Though Book of Taliesyn or Concerto would fit the case better.


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4 stars Jon Lord has always been interested in combining the energy of rock with the idea of melodic development that is more common to concert hall music. Windows is probably one of his most successful accomplishments in this area, thanks in no small part to his collaborator on this effort, composer and conductor Eberhard Schoener. One of my favorite aspects of this record is that a lot of the solo space in the jam sections went to orchestral members instead of the band. This gives the album a very unique sound. Trumpeter George Morrison in particular seems to be having the time of his life (I get to jam with that dude from Deep Purple!). He plays some great old school swingin solos and even adds some cool Miles-like shrieks in the build-up sections. Lord is a big fan of Miles, so it is no surprise that there is a prominent trumpet player on this record.

The first side is made up of Lord and Schoener's Continuo on Bach. This is probably the best piece on the record. Most of the piece is made up of short orchestral sections alternating with jazz-blues vamps that give room for the different soloists to go off. Violinist Gunter Salber plays a great and very odd solo that veers from classical type quotes to gypsy fiddle hoe-down. It reminds me of some of David Cross's more off-the-wall solos with King Crimson. This piece builds very nicely, and all the parts go together to make a congruous whole.

Side two consists of the three part piece Windows. The first part by Schoener continues in a style similar to the Bach Continuo and is as successful as the first side. There is a long section that features two sopranos and David Coverdale improvising vocals over another jazz groove. I know you might expect that the sound of that guy from Whitesnake jamming with two opera singers would be like fingernails on a chalkboard, but this section works surprisingly well. The next part is a previously written song by Lord from his Gemini Suite. It opens with some very pretty melodies, but the main body of the song is dated, overly dramatic, and sounds like an outtake from the musical "Hair". One nice highlight though is Glenn Hughes massive blues soaked voice, unfortunately he only gets to take one verse. The last section by Lord doesn't quite come off. There is one part where the strings and drums hit a nice odd- metered groove and Lord starts to solo on the B-3, but then the tympani comes in too slow and drags it all down. There is also one more nice three way vocal improve with Tony, David and Glenn in which Tony throws in some goofy but well timed James Brownisms (Hunh!).

I don't think this record is for everybody, but if you want to hear a successful combination of rock and concert hall music this might be a good place to start, besides it sounds like everyone involved is having a blast.

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I friggen love that album. Brilliant choice indeed! Clap
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Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Dunno if Proto Prog counts, but as far I'm concerned any Proto Prog band is Prog Related, but not every Prog Related is Prot Prog.


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5 stars Quadrophenia is one of the few double albums that has enough good music, great performances, and continuously interesting and relevant themes to truly be considered a progressive rock masterpiece (including Floyd's Wall, Yes' Topo, and Ayreon's Human Equation). In fact, it's probably the only double album I've heard that is a true prog masterpiece (I allow for the possibility that there are some out there that I have yet to encounter). This is a terrific band at its absolute creative, motivational, and musical peak, and the result is an album for the ages! (I can't cover each song, so I'm just hitting the highlights--though it's ALL excellent!)

Disk 1. What a great start to the album--a brief introduction of themes, followed by the all-out rock explosion of The Real Me, and then the alternatingly bombastic, intricate, and poignant title track. Few bands can hit you with a combo like that! The Who demonstrate that at this point they can do in-your-face rock and symphonic oriented pieces superbly. Special note has to be given to Townshend, both for the great melodies and some inspired playing (I didn't know he had it in him!). Then we eventually move to the power-chord dominated Punk and the Godfather, followed by Daltrey's twisted dual voiced Helpless Dancer (I swear Roger Waters borrowed from this in Run Like Hell). I've Had Enough is a fitting ending to the disk, as it moves from intense to reflective bits, and ends with the literal and figurative crash.

Disk 2. If you think the boys had gotten a little too prog at this point, they bring you back with three straight-up rockers: 5:15, Sea and Sand, and Drowned. These are great tunes, but things really pick up (and get cohesive musically) with Bell Boy through to the end. If I don't have time for the entire album, sometimes I just listen to the last four to get me where I need to be. Doctor Jimmy picks up the intensity (and angst), and leads nicely into The Rock (the "other" instrumental, but as high in quality as Quadrophenia). Then we come to the conclusion. A powerful song by itself, after the emotional roller-coaster you have been on through the album, those piano chords over a thunderstorm put you in the right mindset to be properly moved by the introduction of the main theme. And then Daltrey hits you with the chorus. For me, few musical moments can compare to this sequence.

The Who have accomplished something remarkable with Quadrophenia: great music, great playing, and a captivating story. It resonates still today, and it has a happy ending without being cheesy or overly sentimental. It has been and likely always will be one of the most important pieces of my collection.

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Dunno if Proto Prog counts, but as far I'm concerned any Proto Prog band is Prog Related, but not every Prog Related is Prot Prog.


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5 stars Quadrophenia is one of the few double albums that has enough good music, great performances, and continuously interesting and relevant themes to truly be considered a progressive rock masterpiece (including Floyd's Wall, Yes' Topo, and Ayreon's Human Equation). In fact, it's probably the only double album I've heard that is a true prog masterpiece (I allow for the possibility that there are some out there that I have yet to encounter). This is a terrific band at its absolute creative, motivational, and musical peak, and the result is an album for the ages! (I can't cover each song, so I'm just hitting the highlights--though it's ALL excellent!)

Disk 1. What a great start to the album--a brief introduction of themes, followed by the all-out rock explosion of The Real Me, and then the alternatingly bombastic, intricate, and poignant title track. Few bands can hit you with a combo like that! The Who demonstrate that at this point they can do in-your-face rock and symphonic oriented pieces superbly. Special note has to be given to Townshend, both for the great melodies and some inspired playing (I didn't know he had it in him!). Then we eventually move to the power-chord dominated Punk and the Godfather, followed by Daltrey's twisted dual voiced Helpless Dancer (I swear Roger Waters borrowed from this in Run Like Hell). I've Had Enough is a fitting ending to the disk, as it moves from intense to reflective bits, and ends with the literal and figurative crash.

Disk 2. If you think the boys had gotten a little too prog at this point, they bring you back with three straight-up rockers: 5:15, Sea and Sand, and Drowned. These are great tunes, but things really pick up (and get cohesive musically) with Bell Boy through to the end. If I don't have time for the entire album, sometimes I just listen to the last four to get me where I need to be. Doctor Jimmy picks up the intensity (and angst), and leads nicely into The Rock (the "other" instrumental, but as high in quality as Quadrophenia). Then we come to the conclusion. A powerful song by itself, after the emotional roller-coaster you have been on through the album, those piano chords over a thunderstorm put you in the right mindset to be properly moved by the introduction of the main theme. And then Daltrey hits you with the chorus. For me, few musical moments can compare to this sequence.

The Who have accomplished something remarkable with Quadrophenia: great music, great playing, and a captivating story. It resonates still today, and it has a happy ending without being cheesy or overly sentimental. It has been and likely always will be one of the most important pieces of my collection.

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Another superb album from the early Seventies, which surprisingly no one has mentioned yet...




Whatever happens, don't get hold of the 'new' recording of the album, which features Geoff Downes among others... I've read the comments here, and it seems it's quite dire.

Anyway, here's an equally superb review by one of the very best reviewers on PA:

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5%20stars 'Argus' is without doubt Wishbone Ash's masterpiece. Few would disagree this is the band at their peak, and whilst the two preceding albums are excellent, this is on another level entirely. Never again would the band ever come remotely close to the quality here, and a series of lumpen, generic rock albums followed in its wake. A shame, because they were clearly destined to become major players based on this album.

As a band, Wishbone Ash tend to divide the room over whether they are prog or not, mainly because they don't use keyboards. Whilst the debut definitely has a blues rock overall sound, 'Pilgrimage' is more ambitious and folkier, while 'Argus' is the perfect synthesis of both worlds. This IS a prog masterpiece, in my opinion, with the intricacy and complexity you would expect of prog, albeit with guitars to the forefront rather than keyboards.

'Time Was' is one of the band's very best, but then so is everything else on this album. It begins with a glistening, gentle acoustic guitar intro which sets in motion the laid back tone to the first section of the track. The guitars lilt nicely throughout this section, and the layered vocals are gorgeous, being far more polished than anything heard on their previous albums. This gives way to a furious rock-out section, though, characterised by the driving twin guitars of Ted Turner and Andy Powell, precise and rocking percussion from Steve Upton and the mellow vocal of Martin Turner. There are some stunning guitar solo sections here, with the folkier mid section being particularly memorable, but the best is saved until last- a gloriously extended climax with bluesy, hard driving twin guitar work and shuffling percussion. A genuine classic by any standards.

'Sometime World' is a mellower track, to begin with. It has a hazy, laid back feel with shimmering guitar work and fine lead vocals from Martin Turner. Steve Upton's light percussion work is well judged and the perfect foil for the generally subdued guitars, but it's Upton's work which switches the mood as he increases the tempo and the guitars get rockier. The harmonies are in the same mould as 'Vas Dis' from 'Pilgrimage' and accompany the furious guitars very well indeed.

'Blowin' Free' is a definite favourite of mine- it has a boogie flavour, not a million miles away from songs like 'Blind Eye' or 'Jailbait' from earlier albums, but again, mellower and the guitar work is a lot more intricate right from the off. The dual vocals of Martin Turner and Andy Powell (these days fronting two separate versions of Wishbone Ash- a la Barclay James Harvest, but without the acrimony, it seems) handle the melody wonderfully, and the guitar solos are amongst the most melodic and memorable I know of. The mellower mid section, with group harmonies and strummed guitar, is a highlight of the band's career and the climax with full on slide guitar is still amazing to behold. This has doubtless been played in every gig since it was first aired by the band.

'The King Will Come' is a mid tempo rocker, with a slowburning intro that has an almost reggae (!) flavour due to the syncopated twin guitars. Steve Upton's percussion is loose and funky, before plunging into the main riff with the heavy guitars to the fore. This song reminds me a little of 'Full House' era Fairport Convention, with its folky dual vocals, but the twin guitar work keep things rocking throughout. The guitar heavy climax is particularly intricate from a musical standpoint.

'Leaf and Stream' tends to be overlooked in favour of the rockier tracks, but it's a shame as it's a gorgeous folk gem. It's like the acoustic instrumental 'Lullaby' from the previous album, with its very gentle guitars but this one has a fine lead vocal performance.

'Warrior' is more typical Ash fare, with its strident heavy guitar work, powerful percussion and a more reposed mid section with hazy guitar, neat harmony vocals and pared down percussive work. The chorus here is one of the band's most iconic of all, and this has a smorgasbord of great guitar solos, before segueing into 'Throw Down The Sword' which gives the impression of an ongoing epic. This begins slowly but surely, with the twin guitar riff rising in tension alongside Steve Upton's spiralling drum rolls. Again, the chorus is stirring stuff, with a glorious guitar solo to round the album off wonderfully.

This remains one of my favourite albums, and is definitely a 5 star masterwork by any standards, flowing beautifully throughout and as such, is highly consistent. I personally felt the remix of a few years ago was superbly done, and as a result the album overcame slight sonic murk to sound like it could have been recorded yesterday. Quite why the sleeve of this remastered/remixed version has done away with the UFO on the cover, though, is anybody's guess!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2008 at 07:08
nice to see this thread still going.. thanks everyone... have some community clappies hahhaha

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2008 at 06:59
I have to admit that I fell hopelessly in love with Led Zeppelin on the day I heard Whole Lotta Love for the first time. They have been on my recordplayer and later the CD-player ever since. I really think that every progfan should at least own one of their albums. Since this thread is about the proginess of that album, I will not go for IV, their best known masterpiece. Instead I choose this:

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4%20stars Kashmir, where's that? Somewhere near Morocco?

"Physical Graffiti", the first album to be released on Led Zeppelin's Swansong label, is in many ways a frustrating album. When it is good, it is astonishingly good, when it is not so good… well let's just say it's not so good. At first sight, the explanation for this would appear to lie in the fact the album combines new material with cast-offs and other surplus material recorded for previous albums. This theory is quickly dispelled however when you remember that the older tracks include excellent numbers such as "Down by the seaside", while the newer ones include more prosaic songs such as "The wanton song".

The split between new and old is about half and half, the newer songs sometimes being characterised by a different sounding vocal by Robert Plant (he had just endured a voice saving operation to remove nodules on his vocal chords).

The blues influences which dominated earlier albums are still very much in evidence on track such as the opening "Custard pie". Like many earlier songs, this one is a thinly veiled amalgam of several blue standards, the sexual innuendoes being equally thinly veiled! It is though the Moroccan influenced "Kashmir" which is the undoubted highlight here. This wonderfully heavy piece features John Bonham at his very best (he received a rare co-writing credit for the song) as he powers the piece along. The track features very clever use of tension as the listener anticipates the orchestral bursts which seem to appear at different intervals every time you hear it. The orchestration by the way is a mixture of real instruments plus mellotron. The geographic relevance of the lyrics may be suspect but the song is one of the finest Led Zeppelin have ever recorded.

There is a diversity to the tracks which mirrors the make up of the band's fourth album. While the quality of the songs here is not nearly as consistent, there are plenty of highlights. "The rover" is an unjustly ignored song with a strong melody. The song took shape over several years, finally being recorded for, but not used on, "House of the holy". Strangely, the title track from that album also appears for the first time here, being omitted from the album of that name because it "did not fit". "Down by the seaside" shows the band's lighter side, being a lilting song with occasional high vocalising, and a harder centre.

"Trampled underfoot" is one of the band's most controversial songs. The incessant keyboards driven disco beat may be abhorrent to some, but I find the track to be refreshingly different. The similarities with the Doobie Brothers "Long train running" are undeniable, but the song retains its own character nonetheless.

There does though, appear to be a certain amount of filler on "Physical graffiti", which would certainly have benefited for being a single LP. "In my time of dying" is a rambling 11 minute blues song, and "Ten years gone" is rather nondescript and dull. The whole of the final side of the album is for me rather uninspired and indulgent. "Boogie with Stu" is of interest though, as it credits and features Rolling Stones road manager Ian Stewart (Stu), who played piano on "Rock and roll" from the fourth album. Also bizarrely receiving a song writing credit for "Boogie with Stu" is the late Ritchie Valens' mother. This was intended to be a generous gesture to allow her to receive royalties, as she had reportedly received none from her son's work. The gesture backfired though when Valens estate sued for royalties due to the songs similarities with one of Ritchie Valens compositions.

The excellence of many of the tracks included on "Physical graffiti" render it to be an essential album. It is however by no means without its flaws, and the listener should be selective when choosing tracks from it.

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4 stars "What kind of people do you think we are? Another joker who's a rock and roll star for you?

I thought I would get in early with one review of a Black Sabbath album, as "Sabotage" is for me the most progressive album they made. Here we have two epic prog tracks, "Megalomania" and "The writ", plus 6 other fine recordings. The album relies heavily on keyboards, including synthesisers, played by Gerald Woodruffe. Also present are the English Chamber Choir!

Taking those two tracks epic first, "Megalomania" is a superbly crafted 10 minute piece which focuses on the main theme (or concept) of the album, insanity and mental illness (OK, maybe not a surprising topic for the makers of "Paranoid"!). The track starts as a slow, menacing nightmare with lyrics such as Obsessed with fantasy, possessed with my schemes. I mixed reality with pseudo god dreams The ghost of violence was something I'd seen I sold my soul to be the human obscene

About midway, the pace is increased and track transforms into a magnificently pompous orchestrated cacophony. Ozzy sounds positively insane as he vividly describes his nightmares, the stereo effects enhancing the experience. This truly is a prog masterpiece which set the standard for many of the prog metal bands who were to follow.

At over 8 minutes, "The writ" also has plenty of space for symphonic orchestration and a fine arrangement. The track, which is reportedly aimed at a previous band manager, if full of acidic lyrics such as "Are you Satan are you man, you've changed in life since it began" and You are nonentity, you have no destiny. You are a figment of a thing unknown, a mental picture of a stolen soul, The fornication of your golden throne. The final section includes some excellent soft verses which are counterbalanced by the louder "everything is gonna work out fine" choruses.

These two tracks, which represent just under half the album, are good enough reason alone to recommend "Sabotage". In fact though, they are supported by a further six fine songs. Like "Megalomania", "Thrill of it all" sets out as a slow, heavy dirge, but is transformed midway into an upbeat thriller with soaring synths and multi-tracked vocals.

While there are no obvious hit singles, the most commercial track is "Am I going insane (radio)", which features an irritatingly catchy chorus. By the way, the bracketed word "radio" in the title does not mean it is a radio edit, there are no other versions. The word apparently is cockney rhyming slang for "mental", coming from the long gone company Radio Rental.

The oddest track is "Supertzar", which is nominally an instrumental, but features a choral interlude in true prog style.

In all, a truly superb album which belies any notion that Black Sabbath did not work hard on their releases. There is a level of attention to detail here which when combined with some top class song writing makes for an album which will please many fans of prog, and especially prog metal.

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I haven't listened to that one as much as I've listened to Barrett, but I definitely think I should spin it again. Great
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Some see this album as flawed, the product of a broken idol, yet I see it as nothing short of a pure masterpiece, as James so eloquently explains in the review below, it this is an album of contradictions and opposites, like the cover picture it is searing light and brooding shade in one, claustrophobic and expansive, withdrawn and introvert, open and expressive. Even the stumbles and restarts, (revealing more the frustrations of the producer than the artist), fit the mood of the album and the mood of the artist. A maverick talent who cleared away the clutter rather than paint himself into a corner.
 
 
 

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4%20stars It's unfortunate that so many in the press get hung up talking about Syd's private life, drug use, or mental state. What is relevant is his art.

His music is not for everyone, but for those who can lock into his unique vision, it is very rewarding. It is both complex and simple, ranging from childlike whimsy to some very dark places to oddities in between. It is acoustic music primarily with mostly quiet vocals and worlds away from the circus of Piper. While mistakes are made by Syd and in the production I have no problem overlooking such technicalities to the wondrous and unique music at its core. The gentle rhythmic playing on some tracks here (and on his song Opel from the Opel compilation) can be meditative, while other songs have an upbeat cheery vibe. It is strange music and some Floyd fans who listen to this will be shocked by the difference, the unpolished rawness, the lack of cohesive image that his former mates rode to stardom. This is closer to a Nick Drake sound than it is to any Pink Floyd album, but much less calculated than Drake. One gets the feeling that often Syd was really just channeling what came to him on a given day which is a fascinating way to experience creativity. Think about it. I hope people can maintain an open mind to Syd because he deserves to be heard by a wider audience. I love all of his solo material, even the less successful stuff. For those who'd rather try Syd with a band backing him up, get his second record "Barrett" instead. You'll find similar material, but instead of just Syd and acoustic guitar, you'll get Gilmour on bass and Jerry Shirley adding some percussion. It's debatable which approach is better so do try them both.

And I love Syd's "my way or the highway" approach to his life and work. He lived it on his terms. He decided (or it was decided for him) that he should live a quiet life away from the music business and that's what he did without ever looking back. I have no problem awarding 4 stars to this work, a fine release. All of Syd's work never fails to make me smile and realize how rewarding it can be to thumb one's nose at the status quo both in life and in popular music. There's a deviant quality to this album and to his approach but behind it I believe was a simple and good person who just didn't fit into this society. I think those who would label his existence a "tragedy" are frankly missing the bigger picture. True, part of his story is sad but according to his own family he lived his life as he wished and was happy. There are plenty of "normal" people out there who can't pull off those two things.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 15:14
That's one I've been meaning to pick up. Haven't found it for under $20 (can.) though. I love Claypool but
sometimes Primus can be a bit much for me.
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