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Topic: Prog Related albums for the discerning prog fan
Posted By: micky
Subject: Prog Related albums for the discerning prog fan
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 15:57
Was flipping through reviews this morning and came across a review that sort of flipped the switch in my head and lit that dim ol' 40 watter than passes for a brain of mine. 

Within the Prog Related category we have here...  there are albums.. fully prog albums that are MASTERPIECES of prog.  Yet I do wonder just how many, especially those are our... younger ... cast of characters around here..  appreciate them rather than just seeing a name and figuring that however added that group was hitting the pipe one day and got one over on the forum by having this group added.


Starting a thread here to spotlight some albums that are musts in any prog fans collection.. along with a selected review that best explains why that album should be in every prog fans collection. I'm sure the Queen of Prog Related will be by after she gets her beauty sleep and will share with us some albums that are musts in your collection as well.

To start.. hell.. why not the album (and review) that gave me the idea.


 4.70
Essential: a masterpiece of
progressive music

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Studio Album, released in 1974

Track Listings

1. Career Of Evil (4:00)
2. Subhuman (4:38)
3. Dominance And Submission (5:22)
4. ME 262 (4:47)
5. Cagey Cretins (3:16)
6. Harvester Of Eyes (4:41)
7. Flaming Telepaths (5:19)
8. Astronomy (6:28)

Bonus tracks on Sony Legacy remaster (2001):
9. Boorman The Chauffeur (3:12)
10. Mommy (3:32)
11. Mes Dames Sarat (4:06)
12. Born To Be Wild (single B-side) (3:40)
13. Career Of Evil (single version) (3:00)

../Collaborators.asp?id=10195 - King By-Tor
(Mike)
Prog Reviewer 5%20stars The peak of a career of evil

While best known by most for their immortal smash hit (Don't Fear) The Reaper of their best selling Agents of Fortune album, fans will almost always shrug that one off and point at this as their favorite Blue Oyster Cult [BOC] album. The third and final album in the band's opening trio (the black and white era), this album epitomizes everything that made those albums great and takes the entire being of their music to the stratosphere. Propelled by rocking riffs, haunting keys and very evil lyrics (and vocals), this is a decidedly non-prog album (but close! So close...) that no prog fan should miss out on.

What puts this album so high above it's brethren is a number of things. Almost every BOC album will have everything that was mentioned in the previous paragraph, but this one is a paragon of everything their other albums did well. While their debut disc showed a band with promise and the sophomore showed a huge lean towards the heavy, fast and dark with a great maturity in lyrics this album is a greater leap. The playing is tight, the lyrics are chilling and well thought out and there's not a weak track to be had on the album (something BOC are usually guilty of). In fact, this album hosts a multitude of songs that (while lesser known) are probably the best in the band's entire career.

In my review for the band's debut I noted that Eric Bloom had not yet found his ''voice'' yet. Well, while he found it on their second outing, it's very clear that here the man knows what he's doing. In the rare case of Bloom voicing just about every track on the album (Only Laneir steps in for a moment on the third and fifth tracks), but while other members definitely had voices for specific types of songs, Bloom's was certainly the best choice for this album. Emotional, powerful, moving. Bloom really decided to let loose here, as evident on songs like the chilling tale of Subhuman

Synths pack an extra punch on the album behind the trio guitars of Bloom, Lanier and Dharma, another thing that separates this album from their others. This is also a big thing that will entice the prog heads! Yes, they use this instrument quite well on the album as evident with the pressing yet almost floating keys that open Career Of Evil. Another part where these keys really make an impact is after the stellar drum wailing that opens the terrifying Flaming Telepaths.

As usual, the band excels when heavy and fast, laying on the rock. As evident in songs like the jet-powered ME 262 with its frantic pace in the harmonized vocals, and the rocking riff of Dominance And Submission is only made better by the breakdowns which have Bloom's voice (effectively and dissonantly) cutting off the backing vox.

And while the first half of the album is very very strong the second half simply blows the first half out of the water. Cagey Cretins is a scorching opener with tight playing and solos from one mr. Dharma, but that's only the start. Harvester Of Eyes is a surprisingly upbeat considering it's lyrics are some of the most twisted ever written by a human being. Or a harvester of eyes for that matter. Flaming Telepaths takes that evil, however, and just makes it all the more scary. Bloom's vocals are soft and emotional to open the frantic piece of work that is the track but soon move into the darker territories. Those synths don't let down and the backing piano only adds more mood to something that just keeps getting better until it reaches its climax which is inhabited by a wonderful tradeoff piano-synth solo along with the repeated hook (''And the joke's on you!'').

Astronomy is likely the most ''progressive'' song the band has ever record and its caliber is right up their with the more catchy The Reaper. A 20+ minute epic captured in a mere 6:28 with it's soft and peaceful piano opening leading into it's spine chilling end in which Bloom's vocals punch as hard as being hit by a bus, this track is simply put - stunning.

Though perhaps not progressive this album comes pretty darn close. Regardless, this album is completely essential to anyone who likes anything even slightly heavy. The material on the album also warrants enough of a prog feel thanks to it's many layers, complexities, mini-epics, synths and wonderful writing. 5 stars! Recommended to each and every person who fancies music.





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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 16:09
I consider this to be a Prog masterpiece...

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../album.asp?id=1091 - Tales of Mystery and Imagination - Edgar Allan Poe

by ALAN PARSONS PROJECT


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../Collaborators.asp?id=318 - Ivan_Melgar_M
(Iván Melgar-Morey)
Special Collaborator Symphonic / Neo Prog Specialist
5%20stars “Tales of Mystery and Imagination – Edgar Alan Poe” was not the first Alan Parsons Project album I had the chance to listen but surely the one that gave me more gratification. For many years I owned Pyramid, which with the pass of time was finding more simple and less progressive, also listened another ones like the weak "Eye in the Sky" or "EVE" so my interest in the band was decreasing at exponential degree.

In 1991 I had to make a visit to United States and bought this CD only because there was a special sale, if you bought “Tubular Bells” for $9.99 for an extra cent they gave “Tales of Mystery and Imagination”.

From the first listen I found this release was something different to what I ever heard, a very dark and mysterious album with excellent 100% progressive tracks. Something much more serious than anything Alan Parsons Project did later.

Alan Parsons is a capable engineer great musician and a talented composer but would be unfair to forget that Andrew Powell an incredible conducer is responsible for the perfect orchestral arrangements that play such an important part in almost every APP album.

The first track “A Dream Within a Dream” starts with a narration by Orson Welles of an Edgar Allan Poe passage that sets the mood not only for this song but also for all the album, as always his perfect English and educated voice gives extra credibility to whatever he reads. The song, as the track says is oneiric, beginning with a synthetizer solo that goes in crescendo until drums and bass join it in an explosion of power that again starts to fade in order to end the song, a beautiful and haunting opening.

“The Raven” is enhanced by the orchestra and the English Chorale brilliantly conducted by Andrew Powel, the vocals are soft and almost hidden behind the instruments and choir. This track has the particularity that Alan Parsons sings some sections using an EMI vocoder, with the company of the correct Leonard Whiting.

Without loosing the dark atmosphere, “The Tell-Tale Heart” starts faster than all the previous, the breathtaking vocals by the legendary Arthur Brown create the perfect sense of guilt and anguish for the story of a man who is tormented by his obsession with the beat of the heart from a person he killed, correctly complemented by the instruments and music, it’s a perfect song for a perfect story.

The next track is “The Cask of Amontillado” gives us an example of the style Alan Parsons Project developed with the pass of the years, soft vocals by John Miles and Terry Sylvester followed by impressive orchestral sections full of brass instruments and professional choirs, sadly in later albums he mixed this apotheosis with weaker and pop oriented tunes.

“The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether” is a very strange song, starts dark and obscure and gets confusing as the minutes pass because they mix to many different chords and tunes creating some kind of pleasant chaos. Excellent track that mixes different styles and sounds in a very inventive way, and that’s what progressive rock means, challenge the listener even when it’s confusing.

“La piece de resistance” is “The Fall of the House of the Usher” a 20 minutes instrumental epic divided in five parts:

I.- “Prelude” : Seven minutes introduction for orchestra and bass that situates the listener in the middle of the scene, the darkness and mystery create an atmosphere of suspense perfect for the doomed house.

II.- “Arrival”: A haunting track that starts with a frightening baroque organ, immediately followed by a fast keyboard and band, the set is ready for a Christopher Lee or Boris Karloff movie, simply spectacular.

III.- “Intermezzo”: A collection of more haunting sounds which take the suspense to its higher point.

IV.- “Pavane” is a softer tune mainly played with harp, works as a relief for the supposedly strong ending of the epic.

V.- “Fall”: The orchestra creates a musical cacophony that resemblances the fall of an old house, not a strong end as anybody should expect for an excellent epic, technically is very accurate but musically could have been developed much more.

The album is closed with “To One for the Paradise” sung by Terry Sylvester, Erick Woolfson and Alan Parsons who create complex vocal sections with the background by The Westminster City School Boys Choir and Jane Powell, mostly for guitars, is a semi acoustic song that softens the dark atmosphere of the whole album, extremely beautiful.

It’s important to mention Erick Woolfson, assistant producer and impeccable keyboardist, often known as Alan Parsons right hand, without him the album wouldn’t have been the same.

Absolutely essential release, if you got this one and none other by Alan Parsons Project, don’t worry, it’s by far the best and more imaginative, but if you can get I Robot and Pyramid, go for them, also very good albums.

Without hesitation I will rate it with 5 stars, doesn’t deserve any less.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 16:18
^  you got the next I was going  to choose LOL

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 16:31

One of my all-time favourite AOR/ Prog Crossover albums is

Jefferson Starship: Freedom At Point Zero

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sadly, its not listed on PA...Disapprove

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 16:34
oh god.. I had forgotten COMPLETELY about that album.  Digging that one out.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 16:43
^^ I picked a pretty obvious one before, and now this.

Argus

by ../artist.asp?id=2437 - WISHBONE ASH


Studio Album, released in 1972

Track Listings

1.Time Was (9:42)
2. Sometime World (6:55)
3. Blowin’ Free (5:18)
4. The King Will Come (7:06)
5. Leaf and Stream (3:55)
6. Warrior (5:53)
7.Throw Down The Sword (5:55)
+
Bonus [CD Release 1991]
8. No Easy Road (3:36)

Total Time: 48:33



../Collaborators.asp?id=123 - Easy Livin
(Bob McBeath)
ADMIN GROUP
Site Admin & Moderator


The kings have come

While Wishbone ash" may fall into the "Prog related" category, there is little doubt that "Argus" stands as one of the finest prog albums ever. The band may not have had a full time keyboard player (arguably a pre-requisite for any prog band), but they more than compensated for this with the sounds and textures the twin lead guitars of Andy Powell and Ted Turner offered. Indeed, the guest appearance of keyboard player John Tout (Renaissance) on "Throw down the sword" perhaps seals the prog credibility of this masterpiece.

It is in fact difficult to categorise this album in terms of a sub-genre. The many acoustic parts convey a prog-folk feel, frequently accentuated by the mediaeval lyrics, while the strong guitars and vocal harmonies can perhaps be compared to bands such as Camel. While never overtly metallic, when the band work their way through a few strong bluesy riffs they offer comparisons with the work of Uriah Heep or Deep Purple.

The album opens with the 10 minute "Time was", which moves from the gentle acoustic introduction into a wonderful up-tempo number featuring some great licks by Powell. "Sometime world" has a similar structure, while "Blowin' free" is more of a fun number.

If side one of the album is classic rock music at its finest, it is arguably surpassed by side two. The feature tracks are set around the acoustic "Leaf and stream", a "Dusk" (Genesis "Trespass") like piece which like "Dusk" offers a peaceful haven amid the glorious epics. The side opens with "The king will come". Here, the twin guitars harmonise to wonderful effect while the lyrics portray a quasi Arthurian tale. This theme is perpetuated in the closing two part epic "Warrior/throw down the sword". While the guitar work throughout the album is exemplary, the track closes with a truly awesome solo, full of atmosphere and emotion.

There really is not a weak track on "Argus", it represents one of the finest albums of its era, a truly essential masterpiece.

In 2002, Martin Turner remixed and remastered the album. The remixing is the cause of some controversy, with some feeling it has not been done well while others take the view that it brings out the dual guitar sound well. The re-release comes complete with three bonus live tracks, of which the 17 minute "Phoenix" is particularly special.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 16:55

Headroom: Direct to Disc

by ../artist.asp?id=1131 - FM


Studio Album, released in 1978

Track Listings

1. Headroom
2. Border crossing

Line-up/Musicians

- Martin Deller / drums, percussion
- Cameron Hawkins / bass, synthesizers
- Ben Mink / electric violin, electric mandolin

Releases information

LP Labyrinth LBR 1001

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../Collaborators.asp?id=1160 - slipperman
(Jeff Wagner)
PROG REVIEWER

4%20stars With 'Direct To Disc', FM presented what would be their most experimental and ambitious recording. It's too bad they didn't exploit their more adventurous tendencies on successive albums, because this 2-song full-length is an impressive, sometimes astounding listen.

First track "Headroom" soars and volleys from symphonic part to symphonic part, with electric violin and keyboards sharing space in the foreground. The sounds are usually lush and airy, atmospheric and easy to sink into. It's fun to try and pick out which sound is being generated by Ben Mink's violin or Cameron Hawkins' synths. They melt together well, giving a unified focus to everything. Hawkins also doubles on bass guitar and hardly-there vocals (which are nice but seem like somewhat of an afterthought), while Mink also generates some unusual sounds with his 5-sting mandolin. Martin Deller's sensitive, tasteful drumming is fantastic throughout, though the solo in the middle of the song seems pointless (like most drum solos, no?). Second track, "Border Crossing", is even more interesting, far more experimental, a fascinating composition. It maintains a soundtrack-ish ambience at times, and a kinetic, jazzy attack other times. Mink's violin whines and cries with melancholic beauty, and while there's yet another drum solo, it's merely a short few bars that melt into Hawkins and Mink's melodic mastery, slowly, slowly working toward the song's wonderfully-layered climax.

The nature of this recording is also key to the album's listenability. Recorded live, with no overdubs, the spontaneous performances (the songs were composed beforehand) are laid down direct to the master disc. All in all, this excellent document of FM at its best remains compelling, listen after listen. Very nearly a mandatory prog classic, but unfortunately rather hard to find, and its chances of appearing on CD seem rather slim.



Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 16:58
neato idea for a thread. =) I'm thinking about throwing JMJ's "Les Chantes Magnetiques" on to the list

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 17:03
toss it on Clap  I thought it was a nice idea myself.

Haven't heard that JMJ album just have two by him Oxygene and Equinoxe

.. nor that FM album Greg.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 18:08
FM's debut is a good one too.


1977
../album.asp?id=5839 - Black Noise
4.05
(22 ratings)

And like Micky, I only have Jarre's
Oxygene and Equinoxe, despite being very big on Jarre many years ago.  I've long loved electronic music (very into it many years before I got back into Prog), so I really should be exploring more.  First stop: more Heldon.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 18:36
I should as well Greg.. I love those albums ... electronic music though is something I enjoy.. but hasn't quite 'bit' yet. I loved that Schulze album Rico recommended to me.. Mirage..  fabulous. But I still am a bit of a 'rocker' at heart...  on that note... from the Queen of Prog Related herself. Heart

Since Greg got my second album in mind.. let's go with the third.  A masterpiece....





../Collaborators.asp?id=3717 - Ghost Rider
(Raffaella)
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator 5%20stars Rainbow's second album, released not even one year after their debut, is widely considered as one of the masterpieces of hard rock, as well as one of the cornerstones on which Symphonic Prog Metal was founded. Though somewhat short for today's standards (not even 35 minutes long... about half the length of your average Dream Theater CD), it is nevertheless packed with breathtaking performances by a dream-team of musicians such as incomparable guitar wizard Ritchie Blackmore, diminutive yet iron-lunged vocalist Ronnie James Dio, and powerhouse drummer Cozy Powell (RIP - one of the saddest losses for the rock world). Keyboard player Tony Carey and bassist Jimmy Bain (later to join RJ Dio's eponymous band, with which he plays to this day) are no slouches either - the band is incredibly tight, as attested by the numerous live performances recorded at the time.

As in the case of 'mother' band Deep Purple, keyboards play a large role on this album: opener "Tarot Woman" is introduced by atmospheric synths, before the rest of the band kicks in with a crushing mid-tempo above which Dio's vocals soar. "Run with the Wolf" is another mid-paced song, quite a typical example of the Dio-era output; while the dynamic "Starstruck", undoubtedly one of Rainbow's most popular songs, features intriguing, unusual lyrics about a female stalker. The catchy yet undistinguished "Do You Close Your Eyes", possibly the only item on the album to be considered as filler (and the shortest too), closes what on vinyl was the A-side. The best, however, is yet to come...

There are only two tracks on what was the B-side, but what tracks! Accompanied by a full orchestra, the 8-minute-plus epic "Stargazer" is without any doubt the blueprint for all Symphonic Prog Metal bands, a staggering tour de force sprinkled with dazzling guitar work by the Man in Black himself, and a stellar vocal performance by RJ Dio - one of the best singers EVER in the whole history of rock. His delivery of the sword-and-sorcery-themed lyrics is nothing short of amazing, and makes one wonder at the staying power of his lungs.

Closer "A Light in the Black" is the fastest song on the album, where Tony Carey's keyboards really come into their own. However, this track is also a showcase for Cozy Powell's incredible skill with double bass drums, and clear the ground from any doubts that he was John Bonham's natural heir, the archetypal hard rock drummer. Dio and Blackmore's performances are also immaculate.

I know that, since Rainbow belong to Prog Related, I am not really supposed to give "Rising" five stars - but I will, without any regrets, and not only because it is one of my all-time favourite albums. While not fully prog by any means, it is richly textured, perfectly played, bombastic, operatic and pretentious enough (and I mean every one of these words in a completely positive sense) to appeal to most lovers of 'real' prog. This is no mind-numbing, bludgeoning, run-of-the-mill metal opus - it is a masterpiece of ROCK MUSIC. Period. Enjoy to the fullest.




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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 18:47
Vangelis has got far to many progalbums to be considered just related.


 Hypothesis

This is a for him, quite atypical experimental, organdriven jazz album. I think this and The Dragon, both from 71, are fantastic! Vangelis doesn't (but what does he know?). He went to court to stop them from getting released.




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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 18:50
I'll go ahead and steal Certified's review for one of my favorite albums:
 
* I get a tingly feeling of approval when his views agree with mineLOL
 
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=256 - Certif1ed
(Mark)
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator
 
 
5%20stars Masterpiece of prog rock.

If you never buy another Queen album, make sure you have this in your collection of prog rock, as it never disappoints, packing progressive elements in dense clusters, whipping backwards and forwards between the light and soulful, through the dark and heavy to the downright psychotic.

"Procession" starts with a stately bass drum pattern, over which Brian May previews some of the "Father To Son" material with a guitar sound that is strikingly organ-like and somehow majesterial. This is layered with quasi-mediaeva touches, and the "main" Father to Son theme, before a rippling motif overlaid with a bell-like motif leads to the wonderful riffs of "Father..". These riffs develop, blurring the verse/chorus progression somewhat. When the chorus hits, it's huge and symphonic in style. The rippling and bell motifs return in an slightly extended form, and the Queen choir builds up a huge texture, with touches vaguely reminiscent of the Beach Boys "Good Vibrations" in places. A huge riff is built up underneath this, and we enter a rockin' and rollin' bridge that develops into the solo, which flies all around the stereo picture in a dazzling display of dive-bombs, before lapsing into feedback before kicking off solo part 2, with May layering up the guitars authoritatively. This drops back to a single soft chord, as Mercury almost whispers "A word in your ear, from Father to Son", which kicks into the coda, showcasing fabulous melodies, style changes and, naturally, the Queen choir. The coda itself is a massive stadium chant of "Word goes around, from Father to Son..." etc, which fades out to ambient guitar feedback textures.

These segue into the intro to "White Queen", a song with fine - almost typical prog rock lyrics - and a dramatic Gong punctuating the ambient wash of acoustic guitars. Mercury turns in another brilliantly strong melody. Fabulous harmonies open the music up in a mini bridge into what stands as a kind of chorus - but with massive riffs instead of acoustic guitar, different words to continue the tale, and sensitive, dramatic percussion from Taylor. May then imitates a sitar convincingly for a brilliantly ambient section - There is much in here that reminds me of some of the material on Radiohead's "OK Computer", Queen's dominant style notwithstanding. May unleashes a fabulously orchestrated section, and the Queen choir layer up, and the whole lot is broken down again - "...as it began". At least half an hour's worth of material condensed into 4 and a half minutes. This is what I'm talking about.

"Some Day, One Day" begins with a gentle acoustic rhythm awash with phasers, and May taking the mic for a complete change of style and texture - but that's part of what prog is all about; Variety. The lyrics enter mysticism territory here - with a slightly dark slant; "When I was you and you were me and we were very young Together took us nearly there, the rest may not be sung". The overall style is of a fairly simple song, but there are many, many progressive elements packed in here - some reminiscent of "Tomorrow Never Knows", but the ambient layers of voice and guitar showing the subtle side of Queen.

The rock returns with a bang - Taylor's echoed kit and rough and angry vocals rip into "Loser In The End" - but concentrate on the background layers if you will. The surface is a fairly standard rock song, but the layering of textural ideas is out of this world. You could convince yourself that Queen were using synths - but, of course, at this point in their career, this is not the case.

Side 2 opens with a whoosh, and thunder, before multi-layered and backtracked vocals and guitars create a cacophonous wall of sound, which magically turns itself around to sound "the right way around", and a riff that builds and builds to a song which just grows and grows, painting the outrageously dramatic picture of the Ogre Battle, May excelling himself with guitar punctuation. A wall of screams is the highpoint of this song - it really is incredibly scary - but not long enough! Like everything on this album, everything is so dense and passes by so quickly...

The track segues into "Fairy Feller's Master Stroke", a wicked slice of prog incredibly squeezed into a mere two and a half minutes - I'm wearing out my pause button on this one, so I'll let you discover it for yourself. The lyrics are suitably prog too - so check those out, and listen to this a hundred times - or until you have worked out all the complexities in this song, whichever comes first - I suspect the former.

Masterfully, this segues into "Nevermore", which hints at great songs that Queen would write later in their career. Hauntingly evocative and nostalgic, this shifts seamlessly through many keys, driven by Mercury's ever-improving pianistic abilities.

Now we arrive at the pinnacle of this breathtaking roller coaster - "The March of the Black Queen". Less dense overall than the earlier material, but still packed with time, key and texture changes - including bells and outrageous vocal textures, sudden drops from vertiginous cliffs of sound into barbershop style harmonies and vaudeville song.

I just don't want to analyse any further - the music is just too enjoyable to keep picking apart, and really, one could spend a huge amount of time in analysis and still not uncover everything in this fabulous album - a prog rock album that defines Queen's corner of the genre, and makes many other prog bands pale into near insignificance by comparison.

It's amazing to me that opinion could be split over this album, as it seems to be in some circles - all I can think of is that if you don't hear the prog, you need to listen again and again until you do. It's all there in spades... make that dump truck loads - Queen unashamedly pile on the elements in clusters so dense and fly them past at such a speed that all you end up following are the fabulous melodies of Mercury and May's awesome riffs - and rightly so. Prog should be more than the sum of its parts, and despite the enormous quantity of elements, this album is way more than "Seven Seas..." or "Ogre Battle".

Queen were so far ahead of their time, as this album closes with the pure prog "Seven Seas of Rhye", I feel a kind of pang of regret that Queen did not make more albums like this - one wishes that they had found a way to produce a dozen or so more like this every year. But then that would stop Queen II from holding the crown that it does.

Magnificent opus - even if you don't like certain aspects of it, there's bound to be something in here you'll like or grow to like over time. An essential rock album for everyone.



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 18:55
Mark can review the HELL out of an album.... that album was another I had in mind. Great choice Ryan... of album.. and reviewer.  Clap

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 19:01
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Vangelis has got far to many progalbums to be considered just related.


 Hypothesis

This is a for him quite atypical experimental, organdriven jazz album. I think this and The Dragon, both from 71, are fantastic! Vangelis doesn't (but what does he know?). He went to court to stop them from getting released.




I've heard so little from him...  should check those out.  Clap


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 02:53
Great thread, darlingClapHeart.... The self-appointed Queen of Prog-Related (just check the split in my review pie chartLOL...) is ready to offer her own recommendations - starting from one of those albums that should be in every discerning prog fan's collection, Kate Bush's marvellous Hounds of Love.

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Though there are a number of excellent Collab reviews of it (I'd like to mention Finnforest's and Slartibartfast's among others), in this particular case I've decided to chose the one written by a fellow Italian, whom I had the pleasure of meeting in person last year:
 
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=12914 - - paolo.beenees
(Paolo)
5%20stars It's very difficult to write a review on your favourite album by one of your ever favourite artists... But I must try. Kate has signed some of the most beautiful pages in rock music, and, above all, she has done it in a period when music wasn't offering that much. "Hounds of Love" is the work where she displayed her own personality; therefore, not her most ambitious one, neither a perfect one, but the pure reflection of a genius's soul, and therefore one of the most beautiful jewels you can put your ears to. "Running up that hill" is pop, of course, but also something incredible personal: just imagine that its whole evolving structure, full in rhythm and intensity, comes out of a single chord which, as a backbone, runs through the whole song. The title track has got almost a punk-rock approach (and indeed the Futureheads have understood this) filtered through Kate's interest in world music... the result is a passionate and lively track which sticks to your ears and make you want to move and shake. The same fusion of world music and straight rock animates also "Big Time", Kate's hymn to life and its power. The following two pieces are almost unbelievable: "Mother stands for comfort" is a real forerunner, something Bjork and other ones can only dream of, with those haunting piano and synths, steady drums, unexpected percussions and Kate's unusual lyrics (this time telling us the thoughts of a murderer looking for protection in his - or her - mother's arms). "Cloudbursting" is the equivalent to Ravel's Bolero in prog rock - and it's a quite moving pieces, rich in atmosphere and pathos. The subsequent concept "The ninth wave" features incredible pieces: the heavenly "And dream of sheep", the mysterious "Under ice"; "Waking the witch" really gives me the goosebumps, expecially its piano driven first section with that vocal layers... WOW (just to quote another Kate's song). "Hello Earth" is the missing piece in Pink Floyd's production, and yet, IMO, more intense and intriguing, while the closing piece "Morning Fog" sometimes can almost move me to tears... I really whish the whole world could listen to this masterpiece.
As a longtime Kate Bush fan, I can't help but recommend this absolutely beautiful, deeply lyrical album, which features one of the very best epics ever written in "The Ninth Wave". Personally, I think Kate is much more than simply 'related' to prog,,, Her approach to music is definitely very progressive at least.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 06:08
^ I still need to listen to that....

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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: May 15 2008 at 00:19
Finally found an album to flaunt on this thread. Amazing Canadian band who get a lot of nods from Rush in their liner notes up to Permanent Waves. Thanks to being from the same area they also get labeled as Rush's little brother. Lily is an amazing track which makes the album worth it just for the one song, but the rest is excellent as well.

I chose Sean Trane's review of the album because he seems to be one of the only people on the site who knows who they are!


../album.asp?id=11626 - Max Webster
4.00
(5 ratings)

../Collaborators.asp?id=325 - Sean Trane
(Hugues Chantraine)
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR
Prog-Folk Specialist
4%20stars Debut album from one of the most original group coming from Canada, and certainly a bloody stunner that stayed in the subconscious of almost every teenager from Toronto, but of all Canada as well. This writer remembers being a fan as far back as possible, buying the debut album and playing it until the vinyl became almost transparent. These guys were all very exciting on stage with their energetic music, stage antics (leader Mitchell being a very athletic young man) and their imaginative and original songwriting. They even managed to get the girls started with their glitter outfits. Webster (these guys were looking for a name like Jethro Tull – this is the only real explanation about their name) was always the thing of two songwriters even though guitarist Mitchell was much more prolific than keyboardist Watkinson, but Mitchell’s tracks were always written with Pye Dubois’ lyrics (Rush fans will remember him) and the group found a home on Anthem Records, which is also well known to us progheads.

How could any teen getting drunk and ignore the opening Hangover track (to which the weird square heads refer to on the artwork). This track, starting out on a heavily distorted and feedback guitar is a stunning start and a fitting intro into the crazy world of Max Webster. To describe their sound is rather uneasy as they could range from early Queen, have 10 CC’s best inspirational moments, with quirky songwriting The Cars would not have denied. Not very progressive you might say, but please bear with me for Webster is always changing tempo, sometimes cramming so many idea into one track that others groups would make a whole album out one of their songs. Their constant rhythm changes were quite impressive, almost (certainly IMHO) progressive but the typical chord progressions of what made classic prog bands their trade is a bit absent in their albums. Hangover is then followed by another killer track Here Among The Cats, another live favorite and also a fave of mine (since back then all young dudes were the cats). Next is a rather different-sounding (because written by KB-man Watkinson) followed a typical slow Webster track - there will be a few in the following albums, but they were quite at ease with those too, even if their forte were full-blown rock party tracks. The first wax side is ended by another stunner (and maybe the definitive pop side of Webster) with the stunning Toronto Tontos, which came some seven years before The B-52’s Rock Lobster. A stunning témoignage that these guys were also ahead of their time, this track is truly a joyful moments of musical delirium.

The second side starts with one of the obsessions from the quartet, their lunatic bizarrerie, as if they were coming of our natural satellite planet, the Moon: for the next four albums, there will always be a track making reference to it, maybe explaining how lunatically strange these guys could be. This is another highlight of the album but hardly the only one, since most of the first side of the album are classics. Only Your Nose Knows and the lengthy (almost 8 min) Lily are also excellent and typical tracks while Summer’s Up has a bit of Zappa feeling in it.

Maybe this group is not a prog icon per se, but all progheads loving intelligent rock and pop should get a load of this superb band that never got the recognition it deserved until it was dying.




Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 15 2008 at 08:18
Scrolling thru the list of prog related artists, I am amused at the number of artists that I've always considered unquestionably prog, oh well.  I offer up a few gems without quoting any reviews because I'm getting late for work:
801 - Live
Jon Anderson - Olias Of Sunhillow
Jeff Beck - Blow By Blow
Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love (already mentioned)
Jon and Vangelis - Short Stories
Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene
Oysterhead - The Grand Pecking Order
Primus - Frizzle Fry
Roxy Music - Viva
Peter Sinfield - Still
Synergy - Games
Vangelis - Heaven and Hell



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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 10:27
I am going to recommend this album although I have only heard the one song.  This album was released on May 2nd. 
 
Believers%20&%20Deceivers
 
I think that with this album some consideration should be given to moving Brighteye Brison to a full-fledged prog category.  This album includes 4 songs with one clocking in at 20:25 and a second at over 30 minutes. 
 
Go to this website for a free download of The Harvest which clocks in at 20:25.  I don't think that anyone should be disappointed with this song, and if it is representative of the rest of this album, then no one should be disappointed with this album also.
 
http://www.progressrec.com/index2-e.html - http://www.progressrec.com/index2-e.html
 


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 16:17
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Finally found an album to flaunt on this thread. Amazing Canadian band who get a lot of nods from Rush in their liner notes up to Permanent Waves. Thanks to being from the same area they also get labeled as Rush's little brother. Lily is an amazing track which makes the album worth it just for the one song, but the rest is excellent as well.

I chose Sean Trane's review of the album because he seems to be one of the only people on the site who knows who they are!


../album.asp?id=11626 - Max Webster
4.00
(5 ratings)

../Collaborators.asp?id=325 - Sean Trane
(Hugues Chantraine)
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR
Prog-Folk Specialist
4%20stars Debut album from one of the most original group coming from Canada, and certainly a bloody stunner that stayed in the subconscious of almost every teenager from Toronto, but of all Canada as well. This writer remembers being a fan as far back as possible, buying the debut album and playing it until the vinyl became almost transparent. These guys were all very exciting on stage with their energetic music, stage antics (leader Mitchell being a very athletic young man) and their imaginative and original songwriting. They even managed to get the girls started with their glitter outfits. Webster (these guys were looking for a name like Jethro Tull – this is the only real explanation about their name) was always the thing of two songwriters even though guitarist Mitchell was much more prolific than keyboardist Watkinson, but Mitchell’s tracks were always written with Pye Dubois’ lyrics (Rush fans will remember him) and the group found a home on Anthem Records, which is also well known to us progheads.

How could any teen getting drunk and ignore the opening Hangover track (to which the weird square heads refer to on the artwork). This track, starting out on a heavily distorted and feedback guitar is a stunning start and a fitting intro into the crazy world of Max Webster. To describe their sound is rather uneasy as they could range from early Queen, have 10 CC’s best inspirational moments, with quirky songwriting The Cars would not have denied. Not very progressive you might say, but please bear with me for Webster is always changing tempo, sometimes cramming so many idea into one track that others groups would make a whole album out one of their songs. Their constant rhythm changes were quite impressive, almost (certainly IMHO) progressive but the typical chord progressions of what made classic prog bands their trade is a bit absent in their albums. Hangover is then followed by another killer track Here Among The Cats, another live favorite and also a fave of mine (since back then all young dudes were the cats). Next is a rather different-sounding (because written by KB-man Watkinson) followed a typical slow Webster track - there will be a few in the following albums, but they were quite at ease with those too, even if their forte were full-blown rock party tracks. The first wax side is ended by another stunner (and maybe the definitive pop side of Webster) with the stunning Toronto Tontos, which came some seven years before The B-52’s Rock Lobster. A stunning témoignage that these guys were also ahead of their time, this track is truly a joyful moments of musical delirium.

The second side starts with one of the obsessions from the quartet, their lunatic bizarrerie, as if they were coming of our natural satellite planet, the Moon: for the next four albums, there will always be a track making reference to it, maybe explaining how lunatically strange these guys could be. This is another highlight of the album but hardly the only one, since most of the first side of the album are classics. Only Your Nose Knows and the lengthy (almost 8 min) Lily are also excellent and typical tracks while Summer’s Up has a bit of Zappa feeling in it.

Maybe this group is not a prog icon per se, but all progheads loving intelligent rock and pop should get a load of this superb band that never got the recognition it deserved until it was dying.




I sure as hell didn't hahahha..  .. sounds like something I'd really dig.


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 16:30
Being a Rush fan, I actually know who they are as well, because they are Rush's little brother.  I own a few of their albums, mostly because they are on the Anthem record label.  I haven't done any reviews of their albums yet though.  Maybe one of these days. 

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 16:44
what do  think of the music Scott? .. that album Hugues reviewed in particular

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 16:59
I think that Hugues described it very well.  I don't have the history with them that he does, since my interest was more because of the involvement of Rush with their music.  However, I agree that they are more straight ahead rock and roll.  I hate to say this, in case it isn't necessarily true, but they might appeal to you in the since that they remind me a bit of Traffic.  But this might be more because of their album High Class in Borrowed Shoes reminding me of Traffic's High-Heeled Boys.  I'll pull out their debut album this weekend and give it a refresher listen, and maybe even a review for posterity's sake.  (Of course, in my case that might be posterior's sake).

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 17:10
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I think that Hugues described it very well.  I don't have the history with them that he does, since my interest was more because of the involvement of Rush with their music.  However, I agree that they are more straight ahead rock and roll.  I hate to say this, in case it isn't necessarily true, but they might appeal to you in the since that they remind me a bit of Traffic.  But this might be more because of their album High Class in Borrowed Shoes reminding me of Traffic's High-Heeled Boys.  I'll pull out their debut album this weekend and give it a refresher listen, and maybe even a review for posterity's sake.  (Of course, in my case that might be posterior's sake).


thanks Scott.. let me know if you do that review.. I don't catch the front page and reviews usually unless I have a heads-up to be watching for something.  The Traffic similarity intrigues me highly...  Micky loves him some LSoHHBs hahhaha or anything that has that sound.


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 16:22
Hey Micky, I gave the Max Webster debut album a couple of listens.  It was released in 1976 and it has that 1970's rock and roll feel.  It is hard for me to compare to other bands, but I do hear Kiss in the first song (might be because it is about drinking and hang overs); a bit of Traffic on a couple songs; one song reminded me of the Allman Brothers; there is a little bit of Deep Purple thrown in there as well; the vocals at times remind me a bit of Paul Rodgers; not really sure why.  Musically, Toronto Tontos is probably the proggiest, but it also has the strangest use of vocals. 
 
In case you are interested, here is a link to their website, which includes the obligatory 30 second samples.  http://www.maxwebster.ca/MW_sounds.shtml - http://www.maxwebster.ca/MW_sounds.shtml  


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 16:47
Another Canadian band and album I would like to throw out there is Generation 13 by Saga.  I think it is a shame that Saga is still included in Prog Related and that they haven't been moved to a full-fledged prog category: most likely Crossover Prog.  Most everyone knows Worlds Apart, but many of you don't know that they came back a number of years later and released a concept album called Generation 13.
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0000942K5/sr=8-1/qid=1211143543/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music&qid=1211143543&sr=8-1">Generation%2013
 
Here is a 4 star review which does a nice job of talking about this album:
 
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=378 - Cesar Inca
(César Inca Mendoza Loyola)
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR
Honorary Collaborator
4%20stars 'Generation 13' is Saga's top achievement: after a not so impressive return to the music arena in the early 90s, with two albums that simply had some interesting moments, 'Generation 13' showed a band that decided to challenge itself massively. This concept album centered upon the current youth's obsession for futile pleasures and inability to cherish the real good things in life (including love) is a continuous musical journey that relates Sam's wicked way of life until he dramatically finds out that what he needs is redemption. The performances are extremely sensitive in the most emotional and introspective numbers, while heavily ballsy in the rockier ones. The interplay between all members is awesome and fresh, given the fact that most of the band's inputs were exclusively recorded live in the studio. What else can I say about Negus' tight drumming, Ian Crichton's superb guitar playing, and Gilmour's precision in his keyboard duties that hasn't been said before? Anyway, their skills shine here brighter than never before, due to the strength and variety of the material contained in this record. As always, Jim Crichton's bass playing is subdued and accurately subordinaed to Negus' trends (as a bassist) and Gilmour's ambiences (as a bass synth player), and Sadler keeps the usual level of singing versatility, as well as a good complementary activity on his supporting keyboards - he even dares to play some tasteful bombastic pipe organ!! The first two tracks make an impressive entry: first, a piano club ballad accompanied by Sadler's almost sleepy singing; then, an explosive heavy number that includes a medely of some of the following track's main melodic lines. If you're hooked by now, this album won't let go of you. Other outstanding rocky numbers -'The Cross (Home # 3)', 'The Growing Tree', 'Generation 13 (Theme # 2)'. But if you're more into emotionally deep pieces, here is ' 'I'll Never Be Like You (Once Again)'; or if you want your typical symph prog bombast, you've got 'Snake Oil'/'We Hope You're Feeling Better', and also the fiery climax created by the cinematographic sequence that goes from 'One Small Step' to 'We Hope You're Feeling Better (# 2)'. The 'My Name is Sam' tracks are designed under the patterns of industrial technopop, in order to portray the hedonistic ambient of discoteque-goers, and 'No Strings Attached' takes a bluesy cynical look into the implicit selfishness in the cult of beauty. 'Leave Her Alone' starts as an acoustic guitar duet set upon a somber organ layer, until an indie-like psychedelic rock section surfaces, with lots of ghosts shouting, calling and whispering in the background: really schizo! As you may notice, the repertoire is varied, but not lacking unity at all: the presence of some recurring motifs along the repertoire works as a key of integral coherence. A stounding piece of work that shines as what it is, a 90s prog gem.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28343 - Report this review (#17511) | Posted Saturday, June 12, 2004 | http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=17511 - Review Permalink


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 16:58
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Hey Micky, I gave the Max Webster debut album a couple of listens.  It was released in 1976 and it has that 1970's rock and roll feel.  It is hard for me to compare to other bands, but I do hear Kiss in the first song (might be because it is about drinking and hang overs); a bit of Traffic on a couple songs; one song reminded me of the Allman Brothers; there is a little bit of Deep Purple thrown in there as well; the vocals at times remind me a bit of Paul Rodgers; not really sure why.  Musically, Toronto Tontos is probably the proggiest, but it also has the strangest use of vocals. 
 
In case you are interested, here is a link to their website, which includes the obligatory 30 second samples.  http://www.maxwebster.ca/MW_sounds.shtml - http://www.maxwebster.ca/MW_sounds.shtml  


thanks...  putting together an order now.. I think this one will find a place on it. Thanks Scott.


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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 17:06
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

I should as well Greg.. I love those albums ... electronic music though is something I enjoy.. but hasn't quite 'bit' yet. I loved that Schulze album Rico recommended to me.. Mirage..  fabulous. But I still am a bit of a 'rocker' at heart...  on that note... from the Queen of Prog Related herself. Heart

Since Greg got my second album in mind.. let's go with the third.  A masterpiece....





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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 17:08
amen brother...

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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: May 18 2008 at 17:12
One of the best covers as well. I've dug many boxes of LP's just to find it, and still it eludes me. My "art collection" will never be complete without it.

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 15:01

I'm not sure if this meets with Micky's specifications, since it is a one-off album by a "supergroup" instead of a prog rock masterpiece from a band better known for non-prog music, but I liked this album and Bob's review, hence I have added this post to this thread.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00005OL93/sr=8-1/qid=1211914489/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music&qid=1211914489&sr=8-1">The%20Grand%20Pecking%20Order
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00005OL93/sr=8-1/qid=1211914489/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music&qid=1211914489&sr=8-1 -
 
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8569 - OYSTERHEAD — The Grand Pecking Order
Review by http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=4080 - ClemofNazareth (Bob Moore)
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher

4%20stars This review is long, but if you have any interest in Les Claypool, Trey Anastasio, Stewart Copeland, or just in a new legend emerging on the progressive landscape, you should take the time to read this.

Oysterhead consists of Trey Anastasio (Phish), Les Claypool (Primus), and former Police drummer Stewart Copeland, and the only reason I bought this album was to hear what Copeland would sound like after fifteen years or so away from playing in a legitimate band (I think he’s been mostly doing movie soundtracks and stuff like that since he left the Police).

Pause and form a mental picture of what you think a band with these three guys should look and sound like. Whatever you’re thinking, it’s probably off-base. Having suffered through listening to the results of contrived lineups of numerous “all-star” bands over the years, I actually expected this album to be an over-hyped flop, and after the first listen that was my initial impression, and I found myself wishing that the band’s web site had a return policy.

After a few more listens though, this album has really grown on me. There are a couple of small turds in the mix, to be sure, but overall this is a collection of songs that you can play many times and find something new almost every time. And by the way, Copeland’s drumming hasn’t lost anything in the time he’s been away. He pretty much lives above the rim the whole album, with an almost indulgent use of snares, and of what must be some pretty interesting-looking cymbals, judging from some of the funky sounds he’s coaxing out of them.

The lyrics are a mixed-bag, ranging from socially conscious to just plain silly, which isn’t surprising considering Anastasio and Claypool’s histories with their respective bands. There is a very definite aura of control by Claypool throughout, with most of the tracks having at least a hint of a Primus feel to them. But there is a bit more structure and discipline to the music than you’ll find on albums like Pork Soda or Rhinoplasty. I suppose this is largely attributable to Anastasio’s considerable skill at arranging the music, and Copeland’s well-honed commercial sensibilities. Finally, most of the songs have some degree of improvisational jamming to them, and clearly the Phish influence is shining through – I don’t think either the Police or Primus is particularly known for their spontaneity in the studio.

Clearly this band was made to be live on stage though, and their web site is pretty liberally sprinkled with free concert videos for fans to download. There is also a lengthy policy statement explaining how fans can tape live concerts for their own benefit, and even post their recordings for free distribution to other fans. I have in fact downloaded several such recordings from various amateur fan sites (placed there with the full consent of the band, I will point out!), and most of these songs sound even better live than they do on the album. So if you’re interested in the musical styles of any of these three artists, you should think of Grand Pecking Order as a solid sampler of what they will sound like live (although to my knowledge they haven’t really played live much since the supporting tour for this album back in 2001).

“Little Faces” starts off with a funky rhythm between Claypool’s bass and Copeland’s drums that has the effect of sounding like a motorcycle or poorly muffled racing engine revving up. It’s a pretty creative way to open the album, and gives way eventually into a rather extended jam that has a strong Phish feel to it. I wish I had more experience listening to both Phish and especially Primus because both Anastasio and Claypool provide vocals but they are kind of hard to tell apart.

In “Oz is Ever Floating” Claypool lays down some funky blues-influenced licks that are supported with a driving staccato beat from Copeland. I can’t tell if Claypool is using a voice box or is just synching his vocals perfectly to Anastasio’s guitar, but the effect is quite original.

“Mr. Oysterhead” is a song that is totally made to be played live. This one actually reminds me of some of the funkier early stuff the Gap Band did, except that the vocals are almost like the Beastie Boys at times. This one could easily be drawn out to eight or ten minutes in a live setting and still hold the interest of listeners.

(Billy Came Back from Vietnam) a “Shadow of a Man” has one of the few serious topics on the album. It’s a song about a man returning from Vietnam with some mental and social adjustment issues, apparently one of many victims of Agent Orange exposure. This is a reference to a rather dated social issue, but the change of tempo shows the range this group is capable of. Copeland throws in some unusual percussion that has a bit of an Oriental feel to it, and Anastasio’s guitar has kind of an ‘Apocalypse Now’ sound that sets the mood well.

I’m not sure what the point is in “Radon Balloon”, maybe some sort of nuclear reference or something. This is a rather subdued song, with Anastasio actually switching to an acoustic guitar.

Claypool’s bass sounds like he’s slapping wet noodles on “Army’s on Ecstasy”, a sarcastic dig at the mental state of some of our men and women in uniform (this is kind of a sacred-cow subject today, but keep in mind the song was written in early 2001). The vocals here are actually a bit annoying at times, especially Claypool’s ‘voice-in-a- can’ sound that reminds me of some of Klaatu’s early stuff.

I think “Rubberneck Lions” is just a bunch of pointless babbling thrown together with most of the lyrics appearing to be chosen simply because they rhyme. Anastasio wanders about with some funky licks that sound as if they were improvised in the studio. Overall this would have been just as good as an instrumental, and whoever is singing the harmony sounds a lot like Gordon Gano from Violent Femmes.

“Polka Dot Rose” is a darker kind of chant that I didn’t really get the point of, but Claypool and Copeland do a nice job of laying down a toe-tapping tempo at least.

“Birthday Boys” is an Anastasio tune, and he brings out an acoustic guitar again for this one. I gather this song is about a chick named Gina who is a bit of a tease, although I could certainly have that wrong.

I’m pretty sure “Wield the Spade” is a dig at world leaders like GW who assume their powers to be unlimited. The timing here is interesting. Oysterhead was scheduled to kick off their tour supporting the album on September 15, 2001, and their first few shows were canceled after the September 11th terrorist attacks. Although the voice on this song sounds remarkably like Al Gore, the lyrics seem almost prophetically aimed as a reference to the abuses of power the current American president has been accused post-September 11th. Kind of creepy listening to this song knowing it was written before the unfolding of the past five years’ political and social events.

The lyrics from “Pseudo Suicide” are Claypool’s, and the real-life references wrapped around the encore “’cause there ain’t no cure for suicide” undoubtedly have some sort of hidden meaning that escapes me, but probably means something to those who know him. He and Copeland seem especially inspired on this one, with a driving rhythm that is more upbeat than anywhere else on the album.

“Grand Pecking Order” is just a flat-out disgruntled-member-of-the-human-race rant. You just gotta’ love these lyrics:

“In the grand pecking order, where is it you lie? are you the tall hog at the trough, Or a piglet in the sty? On the grand ladder of life, are you near the highest rung? Or somewhere near bottom with your nose in hairy bung. And so you sniff it with a smile on your face, for to pout about would only bring disgrace – to the Grand Pecking Order”.

“Owner of the World”, I guess, is about a corporate and social climber who has reached his zenith and is now just another average Joe:

“He used to own the world, he used to be the one. Like hundred hungry dogs in heat, on cinnabar and rum; ground and sifted and washed it, dried it in the sun. But his heart just wouldn't buy it and his feet began to run. He used to be the Owner of the World, but now he's just another man, who used to be the Owner of the World”.

Anastasio closes out this last track with some very tasty licks that dance around Copeland’s simple but fast-moving beat. This is a short but sweet tune that left me expecting more after the album ended, even after I originally didn’t think the album was even worth keeping.

Like I said at the beginning, that’s what a few listens to this album will do – get you hooked and eventually you’ll probably even sing the praises of this innovative and energetic work by three well-established musical geniuses who somehow managed to break with the traditional mold of “all-star” lineups that either take themselves too seriously, or try to bite off more than they can chew. Oysterhead seems to be not only keeping their egos and ambitions in check on the album; they actually seem to be having fun doing it.

If you have a chance to pick this one up, consider it a priority – this is a record you will still be playing from time to time even years from now. If I ever get a chance to see these guys live, I will undoubtedly consider it the highlight of my social calendar for that year.

Oysterhead and Grand Pecking Order are real gems whose real genius, in the grand tradition of much of the progressive genre, will probably not be fully appreciated for many years to come.

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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 15:14
That's one I've been meaning to pick up. Haven't found it for under $20 (can.) though. I love Claypool but
sometimes Primus can be a bit much for me.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 16:58
Some see this album as flawed, the product of a broken idol, yet I see it as nothing short of a pure masterpiece, as James so eloquently explains in the review below, it this is an album of contradictions and opposites, like the cover picture it is searing light and brooding shade in one, claustrophobic and expansive, withdrawn and introvert, open and expressive. Even the stumbles and restarts, (revealing more the frustrations of the producer than the artist), fit the mood of the album and the mood of the artist. A maverick talent who cleared away the clutter rather than paint himself into a corner.
 
 
 

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(James Russell)
Prog Reviewer
4%20stars It's unfortunate that so many in the press get hung up talking about Syd's private life, drug use, or mental state. What is relevant is his art.

His music is not for everyone, but for those who can lock into his unique vision, it is very rewarding. It is both complex and simple, ranging from childlike whimsy to some very dark places to oddities in between. It is acoustic music primarily with mostly quiet vocals and worlds away from the circus of Piper. While mistakes are made by Syd and in the production I have no problem overlooking such technicalities to the wondrous and unique music at its core. The gentle rhythmic playing on some tracks here (and on his song Opel from the Opel compilation) can be meditative, while other songs have an upbeat cheery vibe. It is strange music and some Floyd fans who listen to this will be shocked by the difference, the unpolished rawness, the lack of cohesive image that his former mates rode to stardom. This is closer to a Nick Drake sound than it is to any Pink Floyd album, but much less calculated than Drake. One gets the feeling that often Syd was really just channeling what came to him on a given day which is a fascinating way to experience creativity. Think about it. I hope people can maintain an open mind to Syd because he deserves to be heard by a wider audience. I love all of his solo material, even the less successful stuff. For those who'd rather try Syd with a band backing him up, get his second record "Barrett" instead. You'll find similar material, but instead of just Syd and acoustic guitar, you'll get Gilmour on bass and Jerry Shirley adding some percussion. It's debatable which approach is better so do try them both.

And I love Syd's "my way or the highway" approach to his life and work. He lived it on his terms. He decided (or it was decided for him) that he should live a quiet life away from the music business and that's what he did without ever looking back. I have no problem awarding 4 stars to this work, a fine release. All of Syd's work never fails to make me smile and realize how rewarding it can be to thumb one's nose at the status quo both in life and in popular music. There's a deviant quality to this album and to his approach but behind it I believe was a simple and good person who just didn't fit into this society. I think those who would label his existence a "tragedy" are frankly missing the bigger picture. True, part of his story is sad but according to his own family he lived his life as he wished and was happy. There are plenty of "normal" people out there who can't pull off those two things.



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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 16:59
I haven't listened to that one as much as I've listened to Barrett, but I definitely think I should spin it again. Great
album as I remember it though.


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 17:05
This one:



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Easy Livin
(Bob McBeath)
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4 stars "What kind of people do you think we are? Another joker who's a rock and roll star for you?

I thought I would get in early with one review of a Black Sabbath album, as "Sabotage" is for me the most progressive album they made. Here we have two epic prog tracks, "Megalomania" and "The writ", plus 6 other fine recordings. The album relies heavily on keyboards, including synthesisers, played by Gerald Woodruffe. Also present are the English Chamber Choir!

Taking those two tracks epic first, "Megalomania" is a superbly crafted 10 minute piece which focuses on the main theme (or concept) of the album, insanity and mental illness (OK, maybe not a surprising topic for the makers of "Paranoid"!). The track starts as a slow, menacing nightmare with lyrics such as Obsessed with fantasy, possessed with my schemes. I mixed reality with pseudo god dreams The ghost of violence was something I'd seen I sold my soul to be the human obscene

About midway, the pace is increased and track transforms into a magnificently pompous orchestrated cacophony. Ozzy sounds positively insane as he vividly describes his nightmares, the stereo effects enhancing the experience. This truly is a prog masterpiece which set the standard for many of the prog metal bands who were to follow.

At over 8 minutes, "The writ" also has plenty of space for symphonic orchestration and a fine arrangement. The track, which is reportedly aimed at a previous band manager, if full of acidic lyrics such as "Are you Satan are you man, you've changed in life since it began" and You are nonentity, you have no destiny. You are a figment of a thing unknown, a mental picture of a stolen soul, The fornication of your golden throne. The final section includes some excellent soft verses which are counterbalanced by the louder "everything is gonna work out fine" choruses.

These two tracks, which represent just under half the album, are good enough reason alone to recommend "Sabotage". In fact though, they are supported by a further six fine songs. Like "Megalomania", "Thrill of it all" sets out as a slow, heavy dirge, but is transformed midway into an upbeat thriller with soaring synths and multi-tracked vocals.

While there are no obvious hit singles, the most commercial track is "Am I going insane (radio)", which features an irritatingly catchy chorus. By the way, the bracketed word "radio" in the title does not mean it is a radio edit, there are no other versions. The word apparently is cockney rhyming slang for "mental", coming from the long gone company Radio Rental.

The oddest track is "Supertzar", which is nominally an instrumental, but features a choral interlude in true prog style.

In all, a truly superb album which belies any notion that Black Sabbath did not work hard on their releases. There is a level of attention to detail here which when combined with some top class song writing makes for an album which will please many fans of prog, and especially prog metal.

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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 06:59
I have to admit that I fell hopelessly in love with Led Zeppelin on the day I heard Whole Lotta Love for the first time. They have been on my recordplayer and later the CD-player ever since. I really think that every progfan should at least own one of their albums. Since this thread is about the proginess of that album, I will not go for IV, their best known masterpiece. Instead I choose this:

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../album.asp?id=13527 - Physical Graffiti

by LED ZEPPELIN

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(Bob McBeath)
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4%20stars Kashmir, where's that? Somewhere near Morocco?

"Physical Graffiti", the first album to be released on Led Zeppelin's Swansong label, is in many ways a frustrating album. When it is good, it is astonishingly good, when it is not so good… well let's just say it's not so good. At first sight, the explanation for this would appear to lie in the fact the album combines new material with cast-offs and other surplus material recorded for previous albums. This theory is quickly dispelled however when you remember that the older tracks include excellent numbers such as "Down by the seaside", while the newer ones include more prosaic songs such as "The wanton song".

The split between new and old is about half and half, the newer songs sometimes being characterised by a different sounding vocal by Robert Plant (he had just endured a voice saving operation to remove nodules on his vocal chords).

The blues influences which dominated earlier albums are still very much in evidence on track such as the opening "Custard pie". Like many earlier songs, this one is a thinly veiled amalgam of several blue standards, the sexual innuendoes being equally thinly veiled! It is though the Moroccan influenced "Kashmir" which is the undoubted highlight here. This wonderfully heavy piece features John Bonham at his very best (he received a rare co-writing credit for the song) as he powers the piece along. The track features very clever use of tension as the listener anticipates the orchestral bursts which seem to appear at different intervals every time you hear it. The orchestration by the way is a mixture of real instruments plus mellotron. The geographic relevance of the lyrics may be suspect but the song is one of the finest Led Zeppelin have ever recorded.

There is a diversity to the tracks which mirrors the make up of the band's fourth album. While the quality of the songs here is not nearly as consistent, there are plenty of highlights. "The rover" is an unjustly ignored song with a strong melody. The song took shape over several years, finally being recorded for, but not used on, "House of the holy". Strangely, the title track from that album also appears for the first time here, being omitted from the album of that name because it "did not fit". "Down by the seaside" shows the band's lighter side, being a lilting song with occasional high vocalising, and a harder centre.

"Trampled underfoot" is one of the band's most controversial songs. The incessant keyboards driven disco beat may be abhorrent to some, but I find the track to be refreshingly different. The similarities with the Doobie Brothers "Long train running" are undeniable, but the song retains its own character nonetheless.

There does though, appear to be a certain amount of filler on "Physical graffiti", which would certainly have benefited for being a single LP. "In my time of dying" is a rambling 11 minute blues song, and "Ten years gone" is rather nondescript and dull. The whole of the final side of the album is for me rather uninspired and indulgent. "Boogie with Stu" is of interest though, as it credits and features Rolling Stones road manager Ian Stewart (Stu), who played piano on "Rock and roll" from the fourth album. Also bizarrely receiving a song writing credit for "Boogie with Stu" is the late Ritchie Valens' mother. This was intended to be a generous gesture to allow her to receive royalties, as she had reportedly received none from her son's work. The gesture backfired though when Valens estate sued for royalties due to the songs similarities with one of Ritchie Valens compositions.

The excellence of many of the tracks included on "Physical graffiti" render it to be an essential album. It is however by no means without its flaws, and the listener should be selective when choosing tracks from it.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 07:08
nice to see this thread still going.. thanks everyone... have some community clappies hahhaha

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 13:20
Another superb album from the early Seventies, which surprisingly no one has mentioned yet...




Whatever happens, don't get hold of the 'new' recording of the album, which features Geoff Downes among others... I've read the comments here, and it seems it's quite dire.

Anyway, here's an equally superb review by one of the very best reviewers on PA:

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(James Jeffery)
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5%20stars 'Argus' is without doubt Wishbone Ash's masterpiece. Few would disagree this is the band at their peak, and whilst the two preceding albums are excellent, this is on another level entirely. Never again would the band ever come remotely close to the quality here, and a series of lumpen, generic rock albums followed in its wake. A shame, because they were clearly destined to become major players based on this album.

As a band, Wishbone Ash tend to divide the room over whether they are prog or not, mainly because they don't use keyboards. Whilst the debut definitely has a blues rock overall sound, 'Pilgrimage' is more ambitious and folkier, while 'Argus' is the perfect synthesis of both worlds. This IS a prog masterpiece, in my opinion, with the intricacy and complexity you would expect of prog, albeit with guitars to the forefront rather than keyboards.

'Time Was' is one of the band's very best, but then so is everything else on this album. It begins with a glistening, gentle acoustic guitar intro which sets in motion the laid back tone to the first section of the track. The guitars lilt nicely throughout this section, and the layered vocals are gorgeous, being far more polished than anything heard on their previous albums. This gives way to a furious rock-out section, though, characterised by the driving twin guitars of Ted Turner and Andy Powell, precise and rocking percussion from Steve Upton and the mellow vocal of Martin Turner. There are some stunning guitar solo sections here, with the folkier mid section being particularly memorable, but the best is saved until last- a gloriously extended climax with bluesy, hard driving twin guitar work and shuffling percussion. A genuine classic by any standards.

'Sometime World' is a mellower track, to begin with. It has a hazy, laid back feel with shimmering guitar work and fine lead vocals from Martin Turner. Steve Upton's light percussion work is well judged and the perfect foil for the generally subdued guitars, but it's Upton's work which switches the mood as he increases the tempo and the guitars get rockier. The harmonies are in the same mould as 'Vas Dis' from 'Pilgrimage' and accompany the furious guitars very well indeed.

'Blowin' Free' is a definite favourite of mine- it has a boogie flavour, not a million miles away from songs like 'Blind Eye' or 'Jailbait' from earlier albums, but again, mellower and the guitar work is a lot more intricate right from the off. The dual vocals of Martin Turner and Andy Powell (these days fronting two separate versions of Wishbone Ash- a la Barclay James Harvest, but without the acrimony, it seems) handle the melody wonderfully, and the guitar solos are amongst the most melodic and memorable I know of. The mellower mid section, with group harmonies and strummed guitar, is a highlight of the band's career and the climax with full on slide guitar is still amazing to behold. This has doubtless been played in every gig since it was first aired by the band.

'The King Will Come' is a mid tempo rocker, with a slowburning intro that has an almost reggae (!) flavour due to the syncopated twin guitars. Steve Upton's percussion is loose and funky, before plunging into the main riff with the heavy guitars to the fore. This song reminds me a little of 'Full House' era Fairport Convention, with its folky dual vocals, but the twin guitar work keep things rocking throughout. The guitar heavy climax is particularly intricate from a musical standpoint.

'Leaf and Stream' tends to be overlooked in favour of the rockier tracks, but it's a shame as it's a gorgeous folk gem. It's like the acoustic instrumental 'Lullaby' from the previous album, with its very gentle guitars but this one has a fine lead vocal performance.

'Warrior' is more typical Ash fare, with its strident heavy guitar work, powerful percussion and a more reposed mid section with hazy guitar, neat harmony vocals and pared down percussive work. The chorus here is one of the band's most iconic of all, and this has a smorgasbord of great guitar solos, before segueing into 'Throw Down The Sword' which gives the impression of an ongoing epic. This begins slowly but surely, with the twin guitar riff rising in tension alongside Steve Upton's spiralling drum rolls. Again, the chorus is stirring stuff, with a glorious guitar solo to round the album off wonderfully.

This remains one of my favourite albums, and is definitely a 5 star masterwork by any standards, flowing beautifully throughout and as such, is highly consistent. I personally felt the remix of a few years ago was superbly done, and as a result the album overcame slight sonic murk to sound like it could have been recorded yesterday. Quite why the sleeve of this remastered/remixed version has done away with the UFO on the cover, though, is anybody's guess!






Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 28 2008 at 17:46
Dunno if Proto Prog counts, but as far I'm concerned any Proto Prog band is Prog Related, but not every Prog Related is Prot Prog.


Flucktrot
(Chris)
PROG REVIEWER
5 stars Quadrophenia is one of the few double albums that has enough good music, great performances, and continuously interesting and relevant themes to truly be considered a progressive rock masterpiece (including Floyd's Wall, Yes' Topo, and Ayreon's Human Equation). In fact, it's probably the only double album I've heard that is a true prog masterpiece (I allow for the possibility that there are some out there that I have yet to encounter). This is a terrific band at its absolute creative, motivational, and musical peak, and the result is an album for the ages! (I can't cover each song, so I'm just hitting the highlights--though it's ALL excellent!)

Disk 1. What a great start to the album--a brief introduction of themes, followed by the all-out rock explosion of The Real Me, and then the alternatingly bombastic, intricate, and poignant title track. Few bands can hit you with a combo like that! The Who demonstrate that at this point they can do in-your-face rock and symphonic oriented pieces superbly. Special note has to be given to Townshend, both for the great melodies and some inspired playing (I didn't know he had it in him!). Then we eventually move to the power-chord dominated Punk and the Godfather, followed by Daltrey's twisted dual voiced Helpless Dancer (I swear Roger Waters borrowed from this in Run Like Hell). I've Had Enough is a fitting ending to the disk, as it moves from intense to reflective bits, and ends with the literal and figurative crash.

Disk 2. If you think the boys had gotten a little too prog at this point, they bring you back with three straight-up rockers: 5:15, Sea and Sand, and Drowned. These are great tunes, but things really pick up (and get cohesive musically) with Bell Boy through to the end. If I don't have time for the entire album, sometimes I just listen to the last four to get me where I need to be. Doctor Jimmy picks up the intensity (and angst), and leads nicely into The Rock (the "other" instrumental, but as high in quality as Quadrophenia). Then we come to the conclusion. A powerful song by itself, after the emotional roller-coaster you have been on through the album, those piano chords over a thunderstorm put you in the right mindset to be properly moved by the introduction of the main theme. And then Daltrey hits you with the chorus. For me, few musical moments can compare to this sequence.

The Who have accomplished something remarkable with Quadrophenia: great music, great playing, and a captivating story. It resonates still today, and it has a happy ending without being cheesy or overly sentimental. It has been and likely always will be one of the most important pieces of my collection.

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Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 04:38


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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 05:54
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Dunno if Proto Prog counts, but as far I'm concerned any Proto Prog band is Prog Related, but not every Prog Related is Prot Prog.


Flucktrot
(Chris)
PROG REVIEWER
5 stars Quadrophenia is one of the few double albums that has enough good music, great performances, and continuously interesting and relevant themes to truly be considered a progressive rock masterpiece (including Floyd's Wall, Yes' Topo, and Ayreon's Human Equation). In fact, it's probably the only double album I've heard that is a true prog masterpiece (I allow for the possibility that there are some out there that I have yet to encounter). This is a terrific band at its absolute creative, motivational, and musical peak, and the result is an album for the ages! (I can't cover each song, so I'm just hitting the highlights--though it's ALL excellent!)

Disk 1. What a great start to the album--a brief introduction of themes, followed by the all-out rock explosion of The Real Me, and then the alternatingly bombastic, intricate, and poignant title track. Few bands can hit you with a combo like that! The Who demonstrate that at this point they can do in-your-face rock and symphonic oriented pieces superbly. Special note has to be given to Townshend, both for the great melodies and some inspired playing (I didn't know he had it in him!). Then we eventually move to the power-chord dominated Punk and the Godfather, followed by Daltrey's twisted dual voiced Helpless Dancer (I swear Roger Waters borrowed from this in Run Like Hell). I've Had Enough is a fitting ending to the disk, as it moves from intense to reflective bits, and ends with the literal and figurative crash.

Disk 2. If you think the boys had gotten a little too prog at this point, they bring you back with three straight-up rockers: 5:15, Sea and Sand, and Drowned. These are great tunes, but things really pick up (and get cohesive musically) with Bell Boy through to the end. If I don't have time for the entire album, sometimes I just listen to the last four to get me where I need to be. Doctor Jimmy picks up the intensity (and angst), and leads nicely into The Rock (the "other" instrumental, but as high in quality as Quadrophenia). Then we come to the conclusion. A powerful song by itself, after the emotional roller-coaster you have been on through the album, those piano chords over a thunderstorm put you in the right mindset to be properly moved by the introduction of the main theme. And then Daltrey hits you with the chorus. For me, few musical moments can compare to this sequence.

The Who have accomplished something remarkable with Quadrophenia: great music, great playing, and a captivating story. It resonates still today, and it has a happy ending without being cheesy or overly sentimental. It has been and likely always will be one of the most important pieces of my collection.

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ClapClapClapClapClap Brilliant choice!


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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 11:32
I friggen love that album. Brilliant choice indeed! Clap


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:16
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:24
An excellent Purpleish classical album. Though Book of Taliesyn or Concerto would fit the case better.


Easy Money
(John)
PROG REVIEWER
4 stars Jon Lord has always been interested in combining the energy of rock with the idea of melodic development that is more common to concert hall music. Windows is probably one of his most successful accomplishments in this area, thanks in no small part to his collaborator on this effort, composer and conductor Eberhard Schoener. One of my favorite aspects of this record is that a lot of the solo space in the jam sections went to orchestral members instead of the band. This gives the album a very unique sound. Trumpeter George Morrison in particular seems to be having the time of his life (I get to jam with that dude from Deep Purple!). He plays some great old school swingin solos and even adds some cool Miles-like shrieks in the build-up sections. Lord is a big fan of Miles, so it is no surprise that there is a prominent trumpet player on this record.

The first side is made up of Lord and Schoener's Continuo on Bach. This is probably the best piece on the record. Most of the piece is made up of short orchestral sections alternating with jazz-blues vamps that give room for the different soloists to go off. Violinist Gunter Salber plays a great and very odd solo that veers from classical type quotes to gypsy fiddle hoe-down. It reminds me of some of David Cross's more off-the-wall solos with King Crimson. This piece builds very nicely, and all the parts go together to make a congruous whole.

Side two consists of the three part piece Windows. The first part by Schoener continues in a style similar to the Bach Continuo and is as successful as the first side. There is a long section that features two sopranos and David Coverdale improvising vocals over another jazz groove. I know you might expect that the sound of that guy from Whitesnake jamming with two opera singers would be like fingernails on a chalkboard, but this section works surprisingly well. The next part is a previously written song by Lord from his Gemini Suite. It opens with some very pretty melodies, but the main body of the song is dated, overly dramatic, and sounds like an outtake from the musical "Hair". One nice highlight though is Glenn Hughes massive blues soaked voice, unfortunately he only gets to take one verse. The last section by Lord doesn't quite come off. There is one part where the strings and drums hit a nice odd- metered groove and Lord starts to solo on the B-3, but then the tympani comes in too slow and drags it all down. There is also one more nice three way vocal improve with Tony, David and Glenn in which Tony throws in some goofy but well timed James Brownisms (Hunh!).

I don't think this record is for everybody, but if you want to hear a successful combination of rock and concert hall music this might be a good place to start, besides it sounds like everyone involved is having a blast.

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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:26
Haven't had the chance to hear any of his solo works, but I'd certainly like to!


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:28
great choice Pablo.. great choice indeed. Clap

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:33
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Haven't had the chance to hear any of his solo works, but I'd certainly like to!


It's a MK 3-4 classical rock album. Has some great vocals from Dave and Glenn, and some funky keys going on there, with some excellent classical composition and odd opera singer. The album is an excellent show of Jon Lord playing what he loves, classical and hard rock.

Sarabande is another one, though it's totally instrumental, and still don't completly, actually like classical music.

Have you heard Concerto Mick?


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:35
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

great choice Pablo.. great choice indeed. Clap


thx Micky!...I'm going to study now



Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:54
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Haven't had the chance to hear any of his solo works, but I'd certainly like to!


It's a MK 3-4 classical rock album. Has some great vocals from Dave and Glenn, and some funky keys going on there, with some excellent classical composition and odd opera singer. The album is an excellent show of Jon Lord playing what he loves, classical and hard rock.

Sarabande is another one, though it's totally instrumental, and still don't completly, actually like classical music.

Have you heard Concerto Mick?


oh yes... Clap


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:55
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

great choice Pablo.. great choice indeed. Clap


thx Micky!...I'm going to study now



good deal.... you don't want to see me at your front door LOL


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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 18:46


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 17:52
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

great choice Pablo.. great choice indeed. Clap


thx Micky!...I'm going to study now

good deal.... you don't want to see me at your front door LOL


it would be nice to see you in real life, rather than imagining you with the face of that cover on your avatar. So then you wouldn't be SO spooky anymore, though maybe on real life you're even spookier than your avatar


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 18:15
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

great choice Pablo.. great choice indeed. Clap


thx Micky!...I'm going to study now

good deal.... you don't want to see me at your front door LOL


it would be nice to see you in real life, rather than imagining you with the face of that cover on your avatar. So then you wouldn't be SO spooky anymore, though maybe on real life you're even spookier than your avatar


spooky? hhahhaha.. perhaps my friend.. perhaps

I've posted pics of me around here since I've been around. .think this was the latest one I posted...




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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 18:23
^DUDE!!! Micky!! You are frickin' SPOOKY!

Well not THAT spooky but there you go, you got a friend that feels you're spooky. Sort of odd room you have there, too.

One day I'll dare myself to post a pic of mine of my haunted room and myself, one day...


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 18:32
hahhahaha

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 18:37
Also this topic should be called as Spooky Related Guys for the Discerning Cool Guy.


Posted By: acelxpro
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 22:54
Good thread, King by tor already posted the best one that came to my mind. Yay max webster.


Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 22:57
Thumbs%20Up

Of course this comes from a fellow Canadian LOL

As for some of the above posts... I wish I had a golf cart in my room. How in the hell does someone even achieve something like that?? Through the window?


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 01:40
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^DUDE!!! Micky!! You are frickin' SPOOKY!

Well not THAT spooky but there you go, you got a friend that feels you're spooky. Sort of odd room you have there, too.

One day I'll dare myself to post a pic of mine of my haunted room and myself, one day...


LOLLOLLOL

And you believed him? Do you seriously think I would even contemplate marrying such a guy as the one in the pic?Wink He looks NOTHING like that, thank heavens.... Much better-looking, in fact, as well as smarter-lookingWinkLOL!


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 05:42
hahahhah.. .well... that was a pic from before we met LOLWink

I guess a recent pic would be more in order..  I don't have much Pablo... here is one I posted in the collab area from a trip to see Raff last year... not the most in focus.. but trust me... you are better off that way hahahha.







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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 09:15
First time I've had a chance to see you, micky. Not as bad as I'd have guessed LOL

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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 09:40
I can see that guy laughing maniacally at his computer at all the anti-DT threads Wink


Actually, he looks exactly like I expected... and suspiciously like his avatar Stern%20Smile


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 10:08
I'm left wondering what a picture of Micky is doing in a Prog Related thread... Confused
 
Anyway, dragging this thread screaming and kicking back On Topic...
 
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5304 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5304
 
 
4.09
Excellent addition to any
prog music collection

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5304#reviews">
801 Live, released in 1976

Track Listings

1. Lagrima
2. T.N.K. (Tomorrow Never Knows)
3. East Of Asteroid
4. Rongwrong
5. Sombre Reptiles
6. Baby's On Fire
7. Diamond Head
8. Miss Shapiro
9. You Really Got Me
10. Third Uncle

Line-up/Musicians

- PHIL MANZANERA
- Brian Eno / keyboards, synthesise, guitar, and vocals
- Lloyd Watson / slide-guitar and vocals
- Francis Monkman / Fender Rhodes and clavinet
- Bill MacCormick / bass and vocals
- Simon Philipps / drums and rhythm generator

Releases information

track lenghts: 2:34, 6:14, 4:58, 5:10, 3:14, 5:02, 6:21, 4:20, 3:23, 5:14

 
Probably the finest Canterbury/Pop crossover live album of all time. A fine collection of Phil Manzanera, Quiet Sun and Brian Eno songs with two well chosen covers (whether Eno's guitar was actually plugged in during You really Got Me is debatable, but the sight of him holding the guitar on stage was quite memorable). I had the immense pleasure of seeing 801 play this set live in 1976 and have been playing this album regularly ever since.


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 12:04
Kate Bush - Live at Hammersmith live video



Mystery 1:  How is it possible that this has not yet been released on DVD in its full glory, with the Peter Gabriel footage included?  Mystery 2: How can there only be one other brief review of this release?  Have you people really not seen this?

This show is the epitome of Kate, her most perfect moment in my eyes.  While her albums are great, only through seeing it combined with her talents of dance and visual can you fully appreciate her. 

This was my first exposure to Kate, her greatest release in my opinion, and one of the reasons I put away my Zeppelin albums and started listening to strange music.  If you are a Kate fan and have not seen this, it needs to be your most pressing priority. 


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 12:41
As a longtime Kate fan, I MUST get that video, or perhaps wait for it to be released in DVD format - provided it ever happensUnhappy!


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 13:01
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

As a longtime Kate fan, I MUST get that video, or perhaps wait for it to be released in DVD format - provided it ever happensUnhappy!
another one to wait (for ever) for is the Kate Bush BBC Christmas Special simply called 'Kate' from 1979 - I've seen a VHS copy of the programme, so it exists somewhere, but whether it ever sees an official DVD release is another question.
 
here's a clip from it featuring Kate Bush & Peter Gabriel dueting a Roy Harper song....
 
 
"And at the door, we can't say more, than just another day.
Without a sound, I turn around, and I walk away."
 
::goosebump moment::


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 15:04
Raffa, you would LOVE it.  You can sometimes find vhs copies floating around on Ebay, vhs or laserdisc. 

Dean, that Xmas special is very cool as well.  They could put that on a DVD release as a bonus!  Of course, at the rate Kate/EMI move, we'll all be dead by the time it happens. 

What IS their problem getting this stuff out?  Sometimes an artist won't release something because their not happy with the quality, but that can't be the case with Hammersmith.  It's top notch quality from every perspective and Kate's early defining moment. 


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 16:37
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:


Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^DUDE!!! Micky!! You are frickin' SPOOKY!

Well not THAT spooky but there you go, you got a friend that feels you're spooky. Sort of odd room you have there, too.

One day I'll dare myself to post a pic of mine of my haunted room and myself, one day...
LOLLOLLOLAnd you believed him? Do you seriously think I would even contemplate marrying such a guy as the one in the pic?Wink He looks NOTHING like that, thank heavens.... Much better-looking, in fact, as well as smarter-lookingWinkLOL!


....Do I have to believe you, he's smart?
If I'm a little dumb well, it must be the ADN of, well you know, MICKY!


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 16:41
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hahahhah.. .well... that was a pic from before we met LOLWinkI guess a recent pic would be more in order.. I don't have much Pablo... here is one I posted in the collab area from a trip to see Raff last year... not the most in focus.. but trust me... you are better off that way hahahha.


ohh, here you look more older(in not bad sense, but in a mature sense). Well, THERE you look Smart! haha.

Tommorow's Dad Day. Well at least in my country. Is it in the rest?

@King by Tor. haha, yeah I can see him too laughing to the DT fans! hahaha


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 17:05
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:


Dean, that Xmas special is very cool as well.  They could put that on a DVD release as a bonus!  Of course, at the rate Kate/EMI move, we'll all be dead by the time it happens. 

What IS their problem getting this stuff out?  Sometimes an artist won't release something because their not happy with the quality, but that can't be the case with Hammersmith.  It's top notch quality from every perspective and Kate's early defining moment. 
Scratching around on YouTube I've found most (if not all) of the TV show. The tracks are:
 
Wedding List, The Man With The Child In His Eyes, Violins, Egypt, Symphony In Blue, Don't Push Your Foot On The Heartbrake, December WIll Be Magic, Ran Tan Waltz, Them Heavy People and Another Day (with Peter Gabriel) - the programme also featured a solo spot by PG (Here Comes The Flood)


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 19:55
His opening of Here Comes the Flood sends chills down my spine.

As does Kate's opening of "Moving" on the Hammersmith show, I literally get choked up sometimes when she starts that concert.  Moving is my favorite Kate song, and seeing her open the show with it has actually made me tear up I'm not ashamed to admit.  More than once.  So amazing the power in that melody and her delivery of it in that moment. 


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