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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 10:25
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

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This 5.1 thing, I guess it requires a specialized playback system then.
 
Most home cinema systems will support it OK
Home cinema system ? My home cinema system is a television set. Anyway, I`m off to Future Shop. I have sneaking suspicion this is a glorified quad system.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 06:34
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Hey Fripp, How about a follow - up to the fantastic "The Power to Believe?" I don't need to buy a King Crimson album 3 timesCry.......

Yes! Buy an album 3 times shame on me... buy it 4... mmm... 5.1 you said?


Are you saying that if 5.1 versions of any given Crimson album are released, that will be the end of it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 04:00
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This 5.1 thing, I guess it requires a specialized playback system then.
 
Most home cinema systems will support it OK
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 22:37
Originally posted by proggy proggy wrote:

Hey Fripp, How about a follow - up to the fantastic "The Power to Believe?" I don't need to buy a King Crimson album 3 timesCry.......

Yes! Buy an album 3 times shame on me... buy it 4... mmm... 5.1 you said?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 15:36
This 5.1 thing, I guess it requires a specialized playback system then.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 14:40
Hey, just because you still listen to albums on a turntable, doesn't mean you don't also have some screws loose. Tongue

I'm waiting for the portable 5.1 surround head set or something.

On a more serious note, I've now got 5.1 mixes of PT's Deadwing and Stupid Dream, NIN's With Teeth, and the first few Talking Heads.  Honestly, after having heard them once, I don't find anything that really compels me to pull them out.  Might be my wife's fault for getting upset if I crank up the home theater system too loud. Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 10:35
I just pulled out a few of my quad albums and now I remember that my  Mike Oldfield  Tubular Bells " Quad" album isn`t really a "quad " album at all. It was one of the first 4000 or so simulated quad pressings. The record company was in such a rush to get TB out in quad that they did a rush job. Then they released bona fide quad albums but with the same catologue number so you couldn`t tell whether or not you had a simulation or the real thing until you played it through  actual  quad playback equipment. At the time I remember my friend`s father remarking that it wasn`t a very good quad record and he blamed it on the fact that it was rock music ! I didn`t find this out until years later which immediately explained my friend`s father`s reaction.
People are going to have to start building rec rooms the size of movie theatres to accomodate all this new  entertainment equipment. As I said, it`s out of control. I have a friend who Can`t understand how I can still listen to albums on a turntable. He actually thinks I`ve got some screws loose. I`m going to Future Shop this weekend to check out this 5.1 thing just to confirm my suspicions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2008 at 18:57
I remember quad.  I didn't have much to do with it before it died off.  Funny how it sort of reincarnated itself as home theater surround sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2008 at 11:12
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What if Bob just says,  "sorry", and walks out the door whle the meter on the cab is still running. WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? can`t things which are pure and sacred just remain unmolested by technology`s meddling hands ? Angry


You know, you can just not buy it.  It remains pure and sacred for you, but those who dig surround can enjoy ITCOTCK in 5.1.
I was going to write at the end : "  Yes, I know I don`t have to buy it " but I just wanted to remind everyone that I`m still living in the mid-sixteenth century." But I didn`t.
As for this 5.1 sound those of us lived through the seventies will remember what happened to Quad. ( insert sound effect of toilet flushing here ). I had a friend who`s dad was a classical music conniossuer and he had a quad system. These quad systems were developed to give a wider sound to orchestral recordings but didn`t really have any signifigant improvement on the sound reproduction for any style of musicas far as I saw it. Like a moron I went out and bought a few quad rock albums, Tubular Bells was one and Omega`s 200 years After The Last War was another If I remember correctlly ( they`re still in my collection somewhere ). It was a real letdown believe me. And this guy`s father even had an expensive turntable and top of the line Harmen Carden speakers.
New technology doesn`t change the essence of music it just manipulates it and presents it in a different way so  you can say "  5.1 man !  Cool ! state of the art  man ! 21st century freak out ! " when in effect it`s just a case of the emperor`s new clothes. If Crimson wants to engineer their new album in 5.1 then that`s fine after all this is the 21st century. I don`t expect Bob to commit commercial suicide and say : " Next King Crimson album recorded in glorious anologue ! Back to basics ! " ( although I`d definitely go for it ). But  don`t mess with the old stuff. What if the curator of the L`Ouvre decided that the Mona Lisa needed makeover because she looks too outdated. Got to bring the old owl up to speed. The younger people who weren`t alive when brilliant albums like Red or Lark`s Tongues are not going to know the real greatness of this music. When will the madness end ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2008 at 10:56
Strictly in the U.S.? Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2008 at 06:59
I wouldn't mind hearing the 5.1 mixes but I suspect you can only really enjoy them on home theater system.  I'd rather just hear them once or twice than actually buy them.  I already have remasters of all the classic KC albums and my music budget and space to keep everything is not unlimited.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2008 at 04:21
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2008 at 02:23
Originally posted by SFranke SFranke wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

If I knew what the heck "5.1" was, I suppose that could be interesting news.Ermm
The five means five speakers (front left, center, front right, rear left, and rear right). The .1 means a sub-woofer channel.

I could do without these re-releases if they come to pass. I enjoy the current versions, and there's still way too much stuff I haven't heard to start buying albums I already have.
Thanks for that explanation, SF!
 
I'm inclined to agree re not replacing CDs you already have with remastered versions (I don't & won't do it), but I never did replace my old vinyl copy of LTIA with a CD, and intend to one day. I wonder:  will a 5.1 CD still sound better on a conventional, 2 - 3 speaker stereo? Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2008 at 23:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2008 at 23:21
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I'm a 5.1 guy! Wink
Shocked Gee, l'il Guigo, that's short! (I'm almost 6' 3" myself.)
 
Are you a Yanomamo? Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2008 at 21:20
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

If I knew what the heck "5.1" was, I suppose that could be interesting news.Ermm
The five means five speakers (front left, center, front right, rear left, and rear right). The .1 means a sub-woofer channel.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2008 at 21:16
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So it's looking good for KC 2008.  From Fripp's DGMLive.com we have already gathered that the band will be a five-piece of Fripp, Levin, Belew, Mastellotto, and that drummer from PT.  It looks like no tour till 2009, and that touring will be quite limited and strictly within the US. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2008 at 20:34
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

If I knew what the heck "5.1" was, I suppose that could be interesting news.Ermm
 
For me though, the truly "exciting news" is that my ol' long-absent pal Tony has just resurfaced to post here! Big%20smile 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2008 at 19:55
If I knew what the heck "5.1" was, I suppose that could be interesting news.Ermm
 
For me though, the truly "exciting news" is that my ol' long-absent pal Tony has just resurfaced to post here! Big%20smile 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2008 at 19:41
Re: KC this year: Tony Levin just posted this on the 24th on his blog:

"And King Crimson is lumbering toward some musical action. First rehearsals will be in a few months, and I'm hoping it will lead to a lot of music together this year."



So it's looking good for KC 2008.  From Fripp's DGMLive.com we have already gathered that the band will be a five-piece of Fripp, Levin, Belew, Mastellotto, and that drummer from PT.  It looks like no tour till 2009, and that touring will be quite limited and strictly within the US. 

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