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Unifaun
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 17:37 |
yay i really love opeth. My favourite album is Still Life because it has really good mellow and heavy balance in my opinion, some beautiful backing vocals on the moor. The best riffs are on Serenity Painted Death. I may be a cutie girl but i can still listen to death metal
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goose
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 13:09 |
Abbath wrote:
They alos aren't death metal, they're way more doom and prog metal than anything. The growling vocals (which are great) don't make them death metal.
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Trust me, doom purists would hang, draw and quarter you for saying that . Looks like death metallers say they aren't death metal, prog rockers say they aren't prog, doom metallers say they aren't doom, black metallers say they aren't black metal (something I'd definitely agree with!). And what do we learn from this? I think we learn we need to stop being such elitists and open our minds a little! (In case you think I'm accusing you of being elitist, Abbath, I'm not, your post was just a useful one to quote)
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musicnerd
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 13:00 |
Yeah, I don't think they are either. I was just saying what I've heard other people say. I wonder how the next album will sound and what sort of direction the lyrics will go.
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Metropolis
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 12:45 |
No, they're not satanic at all.
Writing lyrics about death doesn't make your lyrics satanic.
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musicnerd
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 12:05 |
I'm new to this forum, but NOT new to prog or opeth. I first bought Damnation and LOVED it. Steve Wilson's use of the mellotron is just beautiful. I then found BWP used, and hated the growling. I listened to it for two and just couldn't get in to it. I gave it another chance several months later along with Deliverance. Now I can really appreciate Mikael's growling. They're the only band I can stand to listen to that growls. What do you all think of their lyrics. I think they're pretty dark and cryptic. I've heard some people say they're evil and/or satanic, but I don't think that's the case. I have BWP, Deliverance, and Damnation. Look forward to continued discussion.
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James Lee
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Posted: April 14 2005 at 07:00 |
Eemu Ranta wrote:
Opeth's strength has always been the contrast between brutality and mellowness, and its absence makes me rate Damnation a bit lower than their best albums 'Morningrise', 'Still Life' and 'MAYH', although it's still a very good release. |
My thoughts exactly. Though I probably would have taken three wordy paragraphs to say the same thing.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 14 2005 at 06:47 |
And where are Genesis' roots in Prog for example?
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philippe
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Posted: April 14 2005 at 06:31 |
Taken from OPETH official website!!
First bought record: Iron Maiden Number of the beast Best ever song: A day in the life The Beatles Best ever album: Sabbath bloody Sabbath Black Sabbath, Porcupine tree - Stupid dream/In absentia, The beatles - White album, Led Zeppelin - IV etc, etc Favourite songwriter: The Beatles (living & dead), Ritchie Blackmore, Steven Wilson, Stefan Dimle/Reine Fiske, Jimmy Page Favourite musician: The above + Andy Latimer, Jerry Donahue, Trey Azagthoth, David Vincent, David Coverdale, Ronnie Dio, Rob Halford, Jörn Lande, Yngwie Malmsteen, Ann & Nancy Wilson.
First bought record: Iron Maiden “Iron Maiden” Best ever song: That’s impossible to say! Best ever album: It could be Porcupine Tree “In absentia”!! Favourite songwriter: Lennon/McCartney or Steven Wilson Favourite singer: Jeff Buckley Favourite guitarist: Edward Van Halen Other favourite musician: Stevie Wonder
Look at this, what a big shame!!!! Where are the roots in progressive music??????
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 14 2005 at 06:14 |
I havent heard Opeth as yet, but with all this talk I'll give 'em a go (Prog or not!)
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Abbath
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Posted: April 14 2005 at 00:07 |
There is a grand misunderstandning about the band. Too many people hark
on the fact that they balance heavy and soft, which is real nice if its
done really well.
I love Opeth's good years (Orchid-Still Life), which is funny because
that's when they used the balance to their advantage, when it fit
(relatively) well into their songs. Later on, they got sloppy and
misused mellow parts and found themselves meandering far too much. They
almost became a parody of themselves.
It's really all in the melodies and the layering. They are great at
overlapping sounds that probably shouldn't be together considering all
conventional music theory (very unfocused and disjointed sound) but can
put it together by always sort of being off-kilter (it's like they're
off by a bit, but they aren't....I'm sure this make no sense to anyone
but me).
They alos aren't death metal, they're way more doom and prog metal than
anything. The growling vocals (which are great) don't make them death
metal.
Aside from that, I'm done my metal elitist griping. Good band with one SPECTACULAR album (Still Life)
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frenchie
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 15:35 |
Debra59 wrote:
Hi I just joined this forum and was glad to see a thread about Opeth. They have got to be one of the best bands around today. I have seen them twice and they are amazing. Lamentations is a good DVD and well worth the small price they are asking for it ! If you like Opeth try Katatonia. I have been deep into symphonic/prog/black metal lately and they are really good and doomy somewhat like Opeth.
Debra | welcome to the forum debs
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Debra59
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 15:29 |
Hi I just joined this forum and was glad to see a thread about Opeth. They have got to be one of the best bands around today. I have seen them twice and they are amazing. Lamentations is a good DVD and well worth the small price they are asking for it ! If you like Opeth try Katatonia. I have been deep into symphonic/prog/black metal lately and they are really good and doomy somewhat like Opeth.
Debra
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 13:36 |
happy you take it that way!
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John Gargo
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 12:29 |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 11:50 |
so you're not close minded cause you don't listen to prog!
you listen to teenage music, which has nothing to do!
Go back to your mc donald an coca cola!
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John Gargo
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 10:23 |
I didn't know this forum was full of so many assholes... who would have thought that so many people who listen to prog are so closeminded.
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46and2
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 09:58 |
Can't
stress it enough. Still Life is their best album IMO. Most
melodic very jazzy not one mediocre song on the record. My
first opeth cd i got.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 05:38 |
philippe wrote:
John Gargo wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
I suspect Phillipe is deliberately playing Devil's advocate, here. |
And how does one play Devil's advocate without any reasoning to back up a statement. The only claim he has to Opeth discrediting the site is that he doesn't like death metal... in fact, I doubt he's ever even listened to a full album. If he had, he would notice that the band has dominant progressive tendencies. If he wants to make a claim that the band will discredit the site, he needs to back it up, which he hasn't done at all.
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You don't know what you are talking about little headbanger...I'm sure that you never heard progressive music to tell such absurdities!! |
I'm afraid Philippe is right!
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cold103
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 05:21 |
I picked Lamentations because the concert on that is the best one I think I've ever experienced so far.
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frenchie
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Posted: April 10 2005 at 18:07 |
Opeth's lamentations DVD has been added to the archives. I sooo want to get it. If anyone has seen it then get reviewing cos it has no ratings so far..
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