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Poll Question: The Mother of All Concept Albums?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2005 at 11:36

While I have had a copy of both since 1979, (I believe I bought the Wall the first day it was issued,) I've given my vote to the Lamb.  Simply, I can play this album from start to finish on LP without itching for a skip button.  Great music!

While I like the Wall, I generally play the CD version and find myself skipping from song to song past the tiresome TV crashes and theatrics.  I haven't played side 4 (LP version) in years while side 1 and 3 (Comfortably Numb) get the ocassional listen.  As a Pink Floyd fan, I prefer DSOTM, Meddle, Obscured by Clouds and Wish You Were Here to the Wall which can be played from start to finish.

My favourite concept album remains Jethro Tull Thick as a Brick.  JT Passion Play is cool too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2005 at 08:24
The Lamb! although I find the concept lyrics of WALL better...

The choice was easy because The Wall is musically a very weak album compared to PF's masterpieces... Btw I like the song Comfortably Numb...

Those 2 albums can't be the mother of all concept albums. We all know what where the prototypes: Sgt. Pepper, Freak Out, Tommy etc.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 23:41
Originally posted by illustrated illustrated wrote:

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

It was a toughie - I voted other: Queensryche - Mind Crime is very much a favourite. I listento  it often and the more I hear it the more I am impressed. Live Crime is better still.

and I add in Yes - Close to the Edge and Tales from Topographic Oceans.

Close to the Edge is a concept album?

 Strictly speaking 'no' - but considering the title track takes up most of the album - I sneaked it in - because the feeling that it conveys is one of a concept album.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 21:43
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

It was a toughie - I voted other: Queensryche - Mind Crime is very much a favourite. I listento  it often and the more I hear it the more I am impressed. Live Crime is better still.

and I add in Yes - Close to the Edge and Tales from Topographic Oceans.

Close to the Edge is a concept album?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 19:14

Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

I had to vote for other, with my choice, although I'll get haggled for this, is a tie between the Mars Volta ablums De-loused in the Comatorium and Frances the Mute.  As much as I like tthe 2 polled bands, TMV know how to tell a story with a farily straight storyline, but leave most for interpretation on the listner's part (Frenchie, you know what I mean)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 19:06
As much as I really love 'The Lamb,' I'm gonna have to go with 'The Wall' just because of the overall storyline. My favorite concept album of all-time comes in a 3-way tie between 'Tales From Topographic Oceans,' '2112,' and 'Scenes From A Memory.'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 18:47
Tales from Topographic Oceans for me. But between the two listed -Both strong albums, but for me it has to be the Lamb. I sometimes get the itch to skip tracks on the Wall, but I prefer to listen to the Lamb the whole way through.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 18:29

The Wall

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 18:15
'Lamb'
Because it's a great work. Not because I can't stand Floyd.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 17:51
Perhaps Jethro Tullīs Thick As A Brick
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 17:44

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

If there was a poll on the most depressing album in prog I would vote the "Wall" without question

I'd say the Final Cut is 10 times more depressing thasn The Wall (granted it is a pretty personal album).  I know dudes that have teared to The Final Cut.

I like Genesis and The Floyd as much as each other but I can't stand Genesis after their self titled lp, however ALL THE FLOYD IS GOOD! 

I picked The Lamb however.  I think it just moves me in such a hard to describe way.  I don't even fully understand the concept of The Lamb completely unlike all the hard hours I spent listening to tha Wall and watching the movie contemplating what is going on.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 17:39
I think the problems come when trying to write a whole double album's worth of short songs. I don't think either band had more than one or two on previous albums, did they? Even Dark Side of the Moon had relatively far longer tracks on. They probably just weren't used to it. However, some of the best moments by each band are on those two albums, they just seem to lack a consistency (odd, given the consistent theme of each).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 17:20

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Incidentally, I don't consider either the Wall or the Lamb anywhere near as good as other albums by the bands.

Same here. To me, The Wall pales in comparison to the other 3 "big" albums; and The Lamb... has great moments, but a fair amount of filler as well. That being said, I love both albums a great deal, just not as much as their other work.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 17:04

Let me just get this out of the way: I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan, so you might not want to take this as seriously. I rather listen to The Wall than to Lamb. Not to take anything away from Lamb, but I find The Wall a much more cohesive piece of music. Lamb has it's moments, but The Wall has more of them. Musically I find them very different, though, so I can't really compare them there. Lyrically, The Wall is more straightforward than Lamb, and in the end I enjoy lyrics that are straightforward. Lamb is still one of my favorite concept albums ever.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 16:38
The Lamb by far.

The wall is pretty good, but doesnt even touch the lamb.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 16:35
It's going to be 'The Lamb' for me, there were far more eclectic and surreal moments in that album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:54
I was going off personal experiences at college and work when discussing music with people - A lot more people listen to Floyd (They appeal to pop fans far more than early Genesis) - I never heard a Floyd fan say The Lamb is better than the wall - so it's a first !!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:45
Originally posted by Swinton MCR Swinton MCR wrote:

This is the old Floyd V Genesis argument in just a different guise, People who have Floyd as No 1 band don't tend to like Genesis, Genesis fans tend to like some, but not all Floyd. I think it is the psyche that leans you towards one or the other......

Gotta call you on that one Swinton. I'd have to put myself squarely in the "Floyd school" but clearly favour The Lamb over The Wall

The reason I picked these two albums fro comparison is because they really are the most bombastic, widely owned AND widely recognized of all concept albums. (I never said the best eh?) Quadrophenia and Tommy are huge, but THE WHO (albeit proggy at times) is not on the Archives. And yes there are other massive concept albums: Tales from Topographic Oceans, Thick As A Brick, etc etc (there are dozens) but none as widely known as the two in the poll.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:45

I will have to buy the re-master I have got an AAD version of the Lamb - I think that this double studio album is very underrated - even by some Genesis fans...Just Like Topographic Oceans it remains in the top 10 prog albums (IMO) - It is not as strong as SEBTP - purely because that album has the incomparible "Firth of Fifth" and "Cinema Show" - but since that album is definately No 1 in all of prog...... The lamb has quality in abundance - and has got to be Genesis' best work after SEBTP......

No Floyd album ever gets near my top 30 albums - So we can't compare the two IMO.....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:45
Incidentally, I don't consider either the Wall or the Lamb anywhere near as good as other albums by the bands.
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