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Atavachron 
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65417 |
 Posted: October 14 2007 at 18:50 |
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good gravy, they have five pages worth of my reviews... just goes to show; make sure your spelling and grammar is good before it says hello to the world...
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Syzygy
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7003 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 18:32 |
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They've used at least 8 of mine as well - mostly 2 and 3 stars, which I find a bit baffling considering they (presumably) want people to buy the CDs. On the other hand, it's kind of flattering...
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Angelo
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 17:13 |
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I did a quick search on that site, and found reviews by Ricochet, Geck0, Melomaniac, Joren, Finnforest, Easy Livin, ClemOfNazareth... all without the a ref to ProgArchives, and likely without notifying the authors. Nice job  |
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ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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moreitsythanyou
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VIP Member Joined: April 23 2006 Location: NYC Status: Offline Points: 11682 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 14:41 |
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Every time I've seen it they credit the reviewer, credit Prog Archives, and sometimes provide a link. I don't see what's wrong with that if the reviewer is absolutely being credited for the review.
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Frippertron
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Joined: October 09 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 387 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 14:28 |
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Well.. They have done it to me too
It wasnt as though it was a good review either LOL.
My name is there for all to see, but what annoys the most is "Prog Archives" isnt mentioned.. Tut tut.
I think it just goes to show that these sites are not capable of doing any decent reviews so use the wonderful Prog Archive reviewers instead.
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The Cheerful Insanity of Prog Rock
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chamberry
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 24 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 9008 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 14:20 |
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I don't mind as long as I get credit for it. I've seen my Zypressen review in one of the prog blogs around the net and I was quite flattered.
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Tuzvihar
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 14:12 |
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My post from another thread on a similar subject:
http://zeuhlmusic.blogspot.com Scroll down this blog. Under Weidorje's album there is a review of it by our Joren. It's copied completely with the stars, Joren's title (SPECIAL COLLABORATOR) and even a link to his profile... |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski |
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Prog-jester
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Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5908 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 14:09 |
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Don't worry about Russian, Erik, they just mention that you consider TRAGEDIES' album equal to IQ/ FLOWER KINGS/ TANGENT outing. Not a word from you review had been used there. |
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debrewguy
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3596 |
Posted: September 26 2007 at 20:16 |
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Are they at least using the good ones ?
"Like, this is the best album that they have ever put out in my opinion. I should know because I have half of their 5 CDs. Their music is like no other band. You can hear riffs from XXXX, some vocals like YYYY, and I swear the guitarist sounds exactly like ZZZZ. If it wasn't for this album, I would not be a porg fan. And having listened to music since I was 12, I can tell you that I know music. I listened to over 100 albums, and I'm only sixteen. But I'm not hung up on the old stuff, like the 80s & 90s. I think that 20th century music will be as good as the ones put out 10 years ago, because more bands have heard more other groups, so they make up their own new stuff better. SO to finish, buy this album. I couldn't find here in town, so I used XXX to download it. But it is worth the price, you know.  |
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Tony R
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: September 25 2007 at 18:34 |
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Some people dont like their things being taken and used without their permission. Stop winding these people up Greg, they think you're being serious and I have give them my word that you are not.  |
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Greg W
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Joined: August 24 2004 Location: Chicago Status: Offline Points: 3904 |
Posted: September 25 2007 at 16:03 |
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Oh come on. Admit it. You creampuffs love the idea of others using your stuff. It puts relevance in your work now.
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Joolz
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 24 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1377 |
Posted: September 07 2007 at 13:00 |
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Illegal uploaders on blog sites are massive offenders.  I don't see it as PA's problem - after all, we as individuals are the ones who hold the copyright to our own work, not PA. I believe we should publish on the understanding that it is potentially liable to being ripped off by unscrupulous people. As already stated, it is a huge internet-wide problem and there's probably little we can do about it. If it is properly credited then it is best left alone. |
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Raff
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: September 07 2007 at 09:09 |
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Because of my previous job, I have some familiarity with the issues of copyright, intellectual property and such - and I can tell you that experts in the matter are at a loss about what to do with the whole Internet situation. The web is so huge that people could steal anything without the injured party ever getting wind of it.
Some sites that have a lot of published material (I am using a few of these for my PhD research) state it clearly that it is available to everyone, but that they would prefer users to at least cite their source (something I always do). In the case of those bios and reviews, I've noticed that some of those sites have actually credited both the author and PA, while others, in real scumbaggy fashion, have passed them off as their own. Now, I don't want to play devil's advocate, but I remember that quite a few bios in our DB come from other sources, which are not always duly credited. |
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Tony R
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: September 07 2007 at 07:08 |
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I dont think we should be chasing everything, as I wrote in a previous post. If someone is passing off reviews from PA as their own then that is a different matter.
I dont want to set a precedent for chasing up the use of reviews or very quickly we will need armies of staff dealing with this. |
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: September 07 2007 at 04:44 |
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Tony R
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: September 06 2007 at 19:20 |
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It's not a lack of concern really. I have contacted Amazon about Mr Cadby though.
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Peter
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: September 06 2007 at 17:18 |
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 Thanks for your response, Tony. (i was disappointed to only get a " " in reponse to my post. previously.) I understand that you guys can't "chase down" every such malefactor who plagiarizes from PA.As you know, I'm not the most tech-savvy guy here, but I did try to report those stolen reviews to Amazon UK, but could not find any way to contact them via my PC. One can hit a "report" button, or "vote" to indicate that a review is "unhelpful" (I did both), but there seems to be no option to explain just what the nature of the issue is.
As they are not my reviews, i was just wondering if you folks had any suggestions or prior experience with such thefts, or indeed, any desire to make Gatot and Ian aware of the situation (I could PM Maani -- we corresponded a lot in the past, but he is so infrequently here these days -- but Gatot I've never had any contact with.)
In any case, if PA is not overly concerned, then i'm not either -- it's a case of "choose your battles," i guess. (And I have more pressing "real life" work-related matters to deal with.)
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Tony R
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: September 06 2007 at 11:57 |
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have you asked them? I guess that Amazon could be contacted and informed of this plagiarism. The trouble is that the web is one big info pool and why we should certainly NOT condone these saddoes who pass off other people's reviews as their own, chasing sites every time they use our reviews uncredited would be futile I think. I'm not dodging my Admin responsibilities here I just dont think its a good idea to set a precedent. I for one dont want to spend my every waking moment tracking down plagiarists because The Admin team did it for Maani and Gatot and therefore should do it for everybody.. |
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Peter
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:48 |
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 Hmmm... thanks for the helpful responses -- no doubt Maani and Gatot will be grateful for your concern over their PA reviews being stolen.... Edited by Peter - September 06 2007 at 08:49 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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andu
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Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
Posted: September 05 2007 at 04:43 |
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I'm honoured to be able to exchange lines with people so renowned
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