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Joined: May 28 2005
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 08:05
beware of Walter Wegmüller! he is one of the hype-cases of Krautrock and his Tarot record is, along with "Gille's Zeitschiff", probably the worst record ever that was produced by Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser. of course that's my personal opinion only, but it is the opinion of a Krautrock-fan.
Schulze started out as a drummer, by the way. he plays drums on Tangerine Dream's "Electronic Meditation" and also on Ash Ra Tempel's self-titled first and on "Join Inn"
A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Joined: July 05 2005
Location: Turkey
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 05:34
Walter Wegmüller is added to Discography BTW. I didn't hear it, but the line-up is very promising... (Schulze must have been listed on keyboards, not drums IMHO) Every krautrock fan should check it. Wish I could find it somewhere!
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
Joined: July 05 2005
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 05:29
^^ now Nektar started to make sense...
Voted for TD (albeit my personal favorite is Cyclone, Force comes close behind), but Amon Düül II is very worthy as well... I would vote for another Can album, Future Days or Ege Bamyasi for instance...
Many missing things in the list, not to mention Eloy.
Hail Krautrock
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
Joined: May 28 2005
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 05:17
our collection is full of Krautrock too, some very obscure bands among them (ever heard of Limbus 4?) some albums are real crap , but Krautrock is definitely one of the wildest and most experimental genrés of prog, and of course some experiments don't work. also Rolf Ulrich Kaiser of the "Kosmische Kuriere" label is/was one of those producers who want/wanted to make a fast buck. he hyped a lot of bands that were not worth it or published material the artists did not want to be published (the albums of the Cosmic Jokers, for example, were never meant to be published; Kaiser ripped off the musicians here. in a strange way one has to thank him for that though, since at least the self-titled album and "Galactic Supermarket" of the Cosmic Jokers are real gems).
Nektar is of course not Krautrock. the musicans are British and just happen to have lived in Germany for a while. and I always wonder why "Remember the Future" is their most popular album. the recurring weak chorus (dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah "Remeeeeeeeeembeeeeeer the Fuuuuuutuuuuuure" dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah) ruins the album for me
A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Joined: February 13 2004
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 10:31
Given these choices I would have to go with Kan Guru although my
favourite Guru Guru album has to be Dance Of The Flames with incredible
Persian born guitarist Houschang Nejadepour. Grobschnitt`s Solar Music
Live is certainly one of the most unusual prog albums ever ( I was at
the show in Manheim ). Jane is one of my all time faves Together,
III, Fire Water Earth & Air, Here We Are and Live At Home are great
albums. I also should add Eiliff, Neu!, Octopus , Novalis, Pell Mell,
Kin Ping Meh, Hoelderlin, Floh de Cologne, Frumpy, The first three
Triumvirat albums before they made the atrocious a La Carte and
Pompeii, Amon Duul up to Made In Germany, certain Eloy albums, the
first three Nektar albums. Whoa! I could go on. I collected so much
Krautrock after discovering it in the early seventies that I don`t even
know what German albums lurk inn the dark recesses of my album
collection but these are the ones I listen to the most. I just bought
ramstein`s Reise Reise although I guess it isn`t exactly prog. The
video for Keine Lust made me buy it. Even if you`re not a fan of this
kind of heavy music try and check out the video it`s totally hillarious.
Joined: January 27 2005
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 21:07
This may be the hardest question to answer. 70s German prog is very underrated. This country has produced the most variety of sounds I have ever heard in prog. While most Enlish bands of the 70s were fascinated with symphonic, the Germans were trying all types of new styles.
We have a list with Can, Nektar, Popul Vuh, Tangerine Dream, Ashra, and Triumvirat. What country produced more varying styles than Germany in the 70s?
My vote goes not to the best but one of my all time favs, Triumvirat- Spartacus
Joined: August 27 2004
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Posted: February 27 2005 at 18:23
DallasBryan wrote:
Sorry, I just dont do the Eloy, Grobschnitt, Novalis, Birth Control, etc thing. The German accented english is worse than Italian that I dont understand. And they usually get lost in some RUSH like fairytale crap I cant handle. The wordless, melodic stuff is out of this world and is much preferred IMO. Most critics get you going for the commercial stuff(above^) or the experimental early 70s(Ash Ra Temple, Kluster, Amon Duul 2, Can, etc) which is a waste of time for me. Although Kraans best and Jane"Together" are definite winners in English. I have heard Ballermann, Rockpommels Land, Sommerabend, Ocean, Blitzkrieg, on and on and although some parts are catchy I dont find them something I would listen to too much overtime.
So in other words, this poll should read "The Best of DallasBryan's Favorite German Prog."
"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?"
Joined: November 23 2004
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Posted: February 27 2005 at 17:25
Sorry, I just dont do the Eloy, Grobschnitt, Novalis,
Birth Control, etc thing. The German accented
english is worse than Italian that I dont understand.
And they usually get lost in some RUSH like fairytale
crap I cant handle. The wordless, melodic stuff is out
of this world and is much preferred IMO. Most critics
get you going for the commercial stuff(above^) or the
experimental early 70s(Ash Ra Temple, Kluster,
Amon Duul 2, Can, etc) which is a waste of time for
me. Although Kraans best and Jane"Together" are
definite winners in English. I have heard Ballermann,
Rockpommels Land, Sommerabend, Ocean,
Blitzkrieg, on and on and although some parts are
catchy I dont find them something I would listen to
too much overtime.
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: February 27 2005 at 15:57
Why do Eloy keep getting ignored in threads about German prog?
As I said before:
ELOY Power And The Passion Review by Rich @ 3:57:16 PM EST, 2004-04-29
— Eloy are probably Germany's foremost prog band and this shows why.It's a concept album about time travelling and has a very nice romantic theme going through it.The playing is impressive and worthy of great prog bands of the time like Genesis and Yes.
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kniprekcor wrote:
— Eloy are probably Germany's foremost prog band and this shows why.It's a concept album about time travelling and has a very nice romantic theme going through it.The playing is impressive and worthy of great prog bands of the time like Genesis and Yes. 