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Certif1ed
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 14:20 |
el böthy wrote:
Wow, how informative! I would never have guessed this by myself! Thank God for this threads! |
I really dig what you're saying there - that's really helpful information! Thanks!!!
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forte88
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 14:00 |
I certainly think that the live performances of the old days were much better than today's prog. There seemed to be a lot more emphasis on production and theatrics than there is today. There are good bands out there today peforming prog, but to see shows like ELP where Keith Emerson is twirling circles in the air with a grand piano, and Peter Gabriel in Genesis dressing up like the Slipperman are long gone. Musicianship and over the top theatrics is what I miss about today's prog. Perhaps the lack of today's commercialism in prog is why these elaborate productions are missing (too expensive). But the lack of commercialism has it's advantages too (able to get good seats at a concert :) ).
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el böthy
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 13:21 |
Wow, how informative! I would never have guessed this by myself! Thank God for this threads!
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Certif1ed
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 13:15 |
If the reviews are anything to go by (and I'm sure they are), then taking the listener on an epic journey is actually a feature of modern prog.
I've yet to find any that does it for me - but plenty of others have, so don't give up the search - it's a personal voyage, after all!
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laplace
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 13:01 |
old school might be better but not for this reason. ;P I'm slowly growing frustrated by transparent production (as well as desk guys being considered as crucial to the music as the musicians themselves) and not many new-gen albums have the thump I associate with the sounds of my favourite musical era...
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 12:51 |
Topic: old school is better
It's all a matter of personal taste and opinion,isn't it?
How can you say that "old school" prog is better when you freely admit in your post you know nothing of newer prog?
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debrewguy
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 12:38 |
E-Dub wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
why not learn something about today's prog?
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I concur. New prog has much to offer, in my opinion. And I post this while listening to Starless & Bible Black.
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I, on the other hand, am writing this while I listen to some of today's prog - King Crimson - Happy with what you have to be happy with  . You know, one thing about getting into "new" prog, a lot of the newer groups' sites offer MP3 samples so you have an idea if you might like them before you put down your money on an album. Back in the "old"days, we'd look over the cover art for an unknown group & then decide
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E-Dub
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 12:25 |
Man Overboard wrote:
why not learn something about today's prog?
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I concur. New prog has much to offer, in my opinion. And I post this while listening to Starless & Bible Black.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 12:07 |
why not learn something about today's prog?
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transcendant
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Posted: May 07 2007 at 12:05 |
the old school of prog, with leanings towards classical music
long songs that take you on an epic journey, like Tarkus, by Elp;
'Close To the Edge' by Yes," 'Twas Held In I" by Procal Harum,
"Singring And The Glass Guitar" on Todd Rundgren/ Utopia's 'Ra'
album "Epitath", King Crimson, etc., are all so much more
interesting than the weak material out there on the radio...I do not
know anything about today's prog but these are some of the more
interesting pieces I go by...
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