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Chus 
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 Posted: June 08 2007 at 20:58 |
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I have my doubts, he's definitely progressive, no doubt; but we're discussing how much "rock" there is in his music to consider him a prog rock artist; at least from what I heard there's not much rock, but perhaps there are more rocky albums in his somewhat extense discography.
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Atkingani
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 20:54 |
JG, Gismonti is being evaluated to be included in the ProgArchives! 
EDIT: by the way, I'm really sure that the Club da Esquina movement led by Milton Nascimento & friends, in the 70s and 80s are "real prog". Check this:
Edited by Atkingani - June 08 2007 at 20:56
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Chus
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 20:53 |
I managed to get this album
What a great composer he is! and guitarist/pianist/flutist too
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Atkingani
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 20:48 |
Reviving this topic with...
Milton Nascimento & Naná Vasconcelos - 'San Vicente'
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Progger58
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 19:14 |
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 14:29 |
I really enjoy A Barca Do Sol, but I've only been able to get their self-titled album 
Unfortunately their music is obscure and hard to find (at least where I live)...
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Atkingani
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 14:23 |
@ andrea: Caetano Veloso is sometimes (or many times, according to others) "pretentious, luring and self-indulgent", ops... isn't it what outsiders say about prog?  In fact, Veloso collects fans and foes easily with his professoral posture. Probably he doesn't like prog-rock but he was neatly influenced by the genre; anyway, his partner Gilberto Gil was more influenced by prog (at least in the late 60s & early 70s) altogether with Mutantes and other names of the Tropicalismo movement.
However, the main progressive influence IMO can be felt in the Clube da Esquina movement, led by Milton Nascimento and friends, which was extremely fertile in the 70s, echoing until today. This influence came mainly from symphonic prog although folk-prog & jazz-fusion have their quotas too.
The idea of a text about Brazilian Music sounds interesting. 
@ Progger58: great list (however I don't know Duofel and Hélio Delmiro and cannot remember Gudin's work *  ). I'd include two other albums: Elis & Tom (1974) and the mentioned Clube da Esquina (1972). I also like O Grande Circo Místico (1982) by Chico Buarque & Edu Lobo. Otherwise, I believe that Quinteto Violado and Egberto Gismonti have a place here in the Archives.
* I once met a guy who told me he didn't ever listen to Eduardo Gudin cause he thought he was a relative of conservative philosopher Eugênio Gudin. 
Edited by Atkingani - May 27 2007 at 14:23
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Progger58
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 13:09 |
Some days ago I did a list of current favorite Brazilian albums for a friend from another forum, so I will post the same list here:
- EDU LOBO - Corrupião (this is definitely on the top)
- ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM - Passarim & Urubu
- GUINGA - Delirio Carioca
- EDUARDO GUDIN - Noticias dum Brasil
- NANÁ VASCONCELOS - Contaminação
- MILTON NASCIMENTO - Musica do Mundo
- QUINTETO VIOLADO - Quinteto Canta Vandré
- EGBERTO GISMONTI - Academia de Danças
- DUOFEL - Atenciosamente, Duofel
- UAKTI - I Ching & Trilobyte
- SIVUCA - Pau Doido
- EUMIR DEODATO - Percepção
- HELIO DELMIRO - Compassos
- CESAR CAMARGO MARIANO - Cesar Camargo Mariano & Cia
- LENINE - Na Pressão
- BEBEL GILBERTO - Tanto Tempo
- JANE DUBOC - Todos os Caminhos
These are, in my opinion, some of the finest recordings of non-prog Brazilian music someone can ever listen to. 
Demetrio.
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andrea
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 12:11 |
 Atkingani wrote:
andrea wrote:
Well, I've just finished to read Caetono Veloso's book "Tropical Truth"... Very interesting and instructive, especially when explaining the importance of popular culture, poetry, cinema and politics on the Brazilian musical scene... Highly recommended!
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Now I recommend you coming here, andrea, to check the places & people cited by Veloso!  |
Oh, it's quite difficult for me now... but sooner or later I will do it!
In the meantime, since prog is not my only passion, I will listen to some CD of Jorge Ben, Gilberto Gil, Caetano Veloso, Edu Lobo, Ivan Lins, Joao Gilberto etc...
Guigo, please, try to write a blog about Brazilian Music, I think it would be interesting... Caetano Veloso wrote that he didn't love Progressive Rock... Os Mutantes instead did... Veloso and Os Mutantes were both part of the Tropicalist movement... What was exactly the impact of Prog Rock on the Brazilian scene?
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 10:19 |
andrea wrote:
Well, I've just finished to read Caetono Veloso's book "Tropical Truth"... Very interesting and instructive, especially when explaining the importance of popular culture, poetry, cinema and politics on the Brazilian musical scene... Highly recommended!
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Now I recommend you coming here, andrea, to check the places & people cited by Veloso!
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andrea
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 04:06 |
Well, I've just finished to read Caetono Veloso's book "Tropical Truth"... Very interesting and instructive, especially when explaining the importance of popular culture, poetry, cinema and politics on the Brazilian musical scene... Highly recommended!
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markosherrera
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Posted: May 17 2007 at 19:52 |
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Stan Getz too.
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Chus
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 22:16 |
Not a brazilian artist but Cannonball Adderley had great fascination for the brazilian music scene
Not really a samba as the title suggests.
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Atkingani
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 20:54 |
Reviving this topic to post a new name in the Brazilian music scene: Vander Lee.
He sings a beautiful song... "Do Brasil". I recommend (a prog-related arrangement, indeed).
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:36 |
Nah man, I'll take the blame, tis cool.
And besides Sepultura I don't know any Brazilian music so....guess I'm out.
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Proletariat
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:30 |
^^^
oh god... now i'm gunna be blamed for this, we dont need more "related bands"
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:27 |
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Proletariat
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:23 |
JJLehto wrote:
Yea! Sepultura! 
I enjoyed Roots, Bloody Roots quite alot. |
hold a second... we could probably add them under prog related 
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:18 |
Yea! Sepultura!
I enjoyed Roots, Bloody Roots quite alot.
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Proletariat
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:47 |
Atkingani wrote:
Proletariat wrote:
I like sepultura, but I dont think that is what this thread is about. |
Of course it is, Pro... they get inspiration from our folk and pop-rock too. The drums in 'Roots, bloody roots' have a noticeable Brazilian touch, for instance. |
yea they do the whole tribal thing quite well
hmmm... I had to do a report on brazil in 6th grade and had to do a report on culture, If I remember right Jazz is quite good down there
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