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Topic: Brazilian Music Appreciation Thread
Posted By: Atkingani
Subject: Brazilian Music Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 18:51
70% of what I hear is Prog and the other 30% is basically Brazilian music, especially what we name here as MPB. Smile
 
I also opened this thread 'cause I know there are many people in PA that like Brazilian music and in order not to hijack Chus' thread about Latin Jazz.Embarrassed
 
I'll begin with Djavan singing "Oceano". Enjoy.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2hLRGy4Uc&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2hLRGy4Uc&mode=related&search =
 


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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 18:58

Again, the great Djavan, singing "Faltando um pedaço".

This song starts with a pure Northeastern moda soon replaced by a dream-like tune. Smile
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSilXUmPcBk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSilXUmPcBk
 


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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:15
That's okay GuigoWink though must admit that the Pablo Milanes entry was a bit awkward considering he has no relation whatsoever with jazz. However you just gave me an idea about opening a Nino Bravo thread (though he's not exactly trova either, don't know how the association with P.L came acrossConfused); but nonetheless he is my favourite spanish pop singer along with Joan Manuel Serrat and Jose Luis Perales.
 
 Anyway here's my grain of sand: Caetano Veloso!!!
 
http://www.albertos.com/bands/GC/Caetano.html
 
Caetano Veloso is one of the most important figures in contemporary Brazilian music. His works, poetic and polemic, are considered true masterpieces. As Caetano says, "I make my records as a painter would paint his canvas". In fact, he makes every melody he sings sound luminous and newly discovered.

Caetano Veloso was born in a small town in the northern state of Bahia in 1942. Soon after his family moved to Salvador, where he spent his youth and studied at the University of Arts.

At the end of 1966 he accompanied his sister Maria Bethania, who had been invited to play at a musical play, to Rio do Janeiro and he got his first hits when his sister recorded his first compositions. Soon he won several prizes and recorded his first album with Gal Costa "Domingo"

In 1968, with Gilberto Gil, he was one of the primary architects of Tropicalismo, a cultural movement whose aim was the reevaluation of traditional Brazilian music and the incorporation of non-Brazilian musical styles. He recorded his first individual album Caetano Veloso and his music crossed the borders with his controverted music E Proibido Proibir. He was awarded several prizes at several TV Festivals.

In 1969 he performed with Gilberto Gil at Castro Alves Theater in Salvador and the concert was recorded live. Barra 69 was the album. However in the same year Caetano and Gil were forced to leave the country by the military regime and went to live in London. There, they soaked up the era's psychedelic rock while sending songs back to Brazil to be recorded by singers like Gal Costa, Maria Bethania, Elis Regina, Roberto Carlos. He recorded his first album in English and performed in several European cities.

He returned to Brazil in 1972 and his audience continued to grow. Another album Transa was released and he performed in several cities and other album was recorded alive, this time with Chico Buarque: caetano e Chico Juntos a ao Vivo.

Several albums were released the following years: Araca Azul in 1974, Temporada de Verao in 1974, Joia and Qualquer Coisa in 1975.

In 1976 he teamed up with Gilberto Gil, Gal Costa and Maria Bethania toured Brazil under the name of Doces Barbaros, An album and a film were released.

Bicho was released in 1977 and the hot rhythm of the sweet melodies of this album had the influence of the contact he had with the Nigerian culture, where he had been months before. The same year Alegria, Alegria was published, a book which is a collection of articles and poems of the years 1965 to 1976.

During the 1970's and 80's his music reasserted its sinuous, harmonically sophisticated tunefulness after his flirtation with blunt rock-and-roll, while his lyrics grew more associative and imagistic, blending an embracing romanticism with glimpses of stark clarity. The albums released were: Muito in 1978, Maria Bethania & Caetano Veloso in 1978, Cinema Transcendental in 1979, Outras Palavras in 1981, Cores Nomes in l982, Uns in 1983, Velo in 1984, Totalmente Demais in 1986 and Caetano in 1987.

Estrangeiro released in 1989, is a natural follow up to what he had been doing all along in Brazil, mixing of old fashioned Brazilian and South American things with new rock and new Brazilian things mostly Bossa Nova.

Caetano Veloso, his first U S album released in 1987, was a selection of his songs from the two previous decades. Backed only by his own acoustic guitar, his voice, tender but sure had the sound of a poet ruminating over his past, examining it with affection and curiosity.

In 1991 a new album was released Circulado. The music which gave name to the album is a poem by a Brazilian concrete poet, Harol do Campos. The cover design was a creation of Caetano, Circulado Vivo, released in l992 is a master piece. Making a story of each song he sings, Michael Jackson's Black or White or Dylan's Jokerman with a practical feeling no one has ever listened, he shifts from bossa-nova to tango tailoring his interpretations with a skill of a genius. The Circulado tour was one of the most important and beautiful concerts he did and became a home-video.

In 1993 was released Tropicalia 2 with Gilberto Gil. A celebration of 25 years of Tropicalia and 30 years of friendship of both genius. A new record, a new book are some of the projects of Caetano this year.

1967 - Domingo (polygram)
1968 - Caetano Veloso (polygram)
1969 - Caetano Veloso (polygram)
l971 - caetano Veloso (polygram)
1971 - Barra 69 (polygram)
l972 - Transa (polygram)
1972 - Caetano e Chico Juntos e ao Vivo (polygram)
1973 - Araca AZul (polygram)
1974 - Temporada de Verao (polygram)
l975 - Joia (Polygram)
1975 - Qualquer Coisa (Polygram)
1976 - Doces Barbaros (polygram)
l977 - Bicho (Polygram)
1977 - Muitos carnavais (polygram)
1978 - Muito (Dentro da Estrela Azulada) (polygram)
1976 - Maria Bethania & Caetano Veloso ao Vivo (Polygram)
1979 - Cinema Transcendental (polygram)
1981 - Outras Palavras (polygram)
1982 - Cores Nomes (polygram)
1983 - Uns (polygram)
1984 - Velo (polygram)
l986 - Totalmente Demais (polygram)
1987 - Caetano (polygram)
1989 - Estrangeiro (polygram)
1990 - Caetano Veloso (polygram)
1991 - Circulado (polygram)
1992 - circulado vivo (polygram)
1993 - Tropicalia 2 (polygram/Warner)

    http://www.albertos.com/and.html"> http://www.albertos.com/albertos/albertos.html"> http://www.albertos.com/bands/GC/Caetano.html
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    A video with Chico Buarque
     
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSM581sxP5c - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSM581sxP5c 


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:19
    That's another reason why I opened this thread, JG. I love the song "Yolanda" but wasn't sure where to post it. Embarrassed
     
    Now, there are 2 threads for those who appreciate good non-prog music! Cool
     
    EDIT: Ha, I just saw now the youtube clip... I was there in the theater that day and saw Chico totally astray! LOL


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:21
    I just wish more members could participate in these threadsUnhappy

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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:28
    Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

    I just wish more members could participate in these threadsUnhappy
     
    Agreed! So many Latin Americans here... Cry but there are many people from other parts that love the music of this side of the Earth, JG. They'll come! Smile


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:42
    I have a feeling I had heard that song "Oceano" before.. not sure where (perhaps accidentally on radio). Is it an original Djavan song?

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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:45
    Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

    I have a feeling I had heard that song "Oceano" before.. not sure where (perhaps accidentally on radio). Is it an original Djavan song?
     
    Yep... 1989 or 1990!


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    Posted By: JJLehto
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:47
    ...Does Sepultura count?
    They're Brazilian.


    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:50
    Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

    ...Does Sepultura count?
    They're Brazilian.
     
    Yes if they were influenced by Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil or Milton NascimentoLOL


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:01
    Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

    Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

    ...Does Sepultura count?
    They're Brazilian.
     
    Yes if they were influenced by Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil or Milton NascimentoLOL
     
    Well, they covered "Polícia" from band Titãs - and Titãs were influenced by Caetano! Big%20smile
     
    Check below:
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T0k6qCUCWY&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T0k6qCUCWY&mode=related&search =
     
    Sepultura is considered part of the Brazilian music scenario and so they consider themselves. Wink


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:02
    Then Angra should be here tooWink

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    Posted By: markosherrera
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:07
    I recommend Aquaria that is a band of ultramelodic and symphonic power metal with elements similar of brazilian jazzfusion...ok they mix jazzfusion like zil,marcos ariel etc in percussion,rythms and symphpower metal better than Angra.


    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:12
    Carioca flutist Altamiro Carrilho... amazing (notice the program host's similarities with David Coverdale LOL)
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MmAFay6nmE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MmAFay6nmE


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    Posted By: markosherrera
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:12
    perhaps i will write something about ivan lins and tania maria etc.....one thing i like that many artists of brazil  are modestos(i dont know the word in english) they use only their alias,like the players of soccer ,for example...nico,portinho,...but dont appear name and surname is like say,pele,etc


    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:16
    Originally posted by markosherrera markosherrera wrote:

    I recommend Aquaria that is a band of ultramelodic and symphonic power metal with elements similar of brazilian jazzfusion...ok they mix jazzfusion like zil,marcos ariel etc in percussion,rythms and symphpower metal better than Angra.
     
     That must be interestingSmile


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:21
    Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

    Carioca flutist Altamiro Carrilho... amazing (notice the program host's similarities with David Coverdale LOL)
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MmAFay6nmE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MmAFay6nmE
     
    The host is Eduardo Dusek, also a singer and composer. Here he appears with maestro Cesar Camargo Mariano (well, some link with Latin Jazz now? Wink).
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU-_Js_a8f0&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU-_Js_a8f0&mode=related&search =


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:31
    Striking similarities with DC... I'd say if this guy sang on Whitesnake you wouldn't know the differenceLOL even has the same vibrato style.


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:39
    Roots, bloody roots (no, not the Sepultura song)... but the Northeast of Brazil with those lost small cities with blind men playing fiddles waiting for alms!
     
    Alceu Valença and Zé Ramalho with band Ave Sangria (1975) echoing the ghosts of the inner land in "Vou danado pra Catende" (Going to Catende with the devil alongside).
     
    All three (Valença, Ramalho & Ave Sangria) have clearly a room here, if not in folk-prog probably in the experimental section.
     
    A haunting song with the cry of the neglected people.
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnc84s-i3ew - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnc84s-i3ew


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:54
    Folk Prog seems like a nice fit.

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    Posted By: WaywardSon
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 21:05
    After a long day at work this sounds nice and relaxing
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=0B18v5iLt38&mode=related&search - http://youtube.com/watch?v=0B18v5iLt38&mode=related&search =
     
    And here, I imagine she is singing just for me!
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JNYgqEdyrfM&mode=related&search - http://youtube.com/watch?v=JNYgqEdyrfM&mode=related&search =


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 23:11
    Gilberto Gil & Mutantes - Domingo No Parque (1967).... dazzling!
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi10gxz5faA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi10gxz5faA
     
    The comments (many in English) say everything! Smile


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    Posted By: darksideof
    Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 00:01

    Good topic!! Love Brazillian artist and the beautiful women!!!!!
    well I am a big prog and jazz fan and lioke thse brazilian artist:
    Minton Nacimiento. I have no idea what he is saying but he is a fantastic song writer and song interpreter. Iheave few of his of his record:
    NACIMIENTO 1997
    AMIGOS 1995
    Both excellent
    Airto Moreira I love what he did with MIles and Return to Forever , actually the first 2 record of the RTF are my all time fav jazz/fusion record of many years. I also this great record:SEED ON THE GRUOND. I also love Flora purin I don't have any of her record what should i buy?
    I aso have this Jazz classic album?STAN GETZ/JOAN GILBERTO great stuff with I am listening with my wife.!!
    and the brazilian artists that I love the most and Egbeto Gismonti and nana vasconcelos I have a lot records of this amazing musicians extremely recomended recomended to any prog/jazz fan!!!
    I love nana on pat ( as far as wichita), jan garbarek, and ralph towner records. Essential: masterpieces of jazz-Fussion

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    http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/


    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 00:23
    Originally posted by darksideof darksideof wrote:


    Good topic!! Love Brazillian artist and the beautiful women!!!!!
    well I am a big prog and jazz fan and lioke thse brazilian artist:
    Minton Nacimiento. I have no idea what he is saying but he is a fantastic song writer and song interpreter. Iheave few of his of his record:
    NACIMIENTO 1997
    AMIGOS 1995
    Both excellent
    Airto Moreira I love what he did with MIles and Return to Forever , actually the first 2 record of the RTF are my all time fav jazz/fusion record of many years. I also this great record:SEED ON THE GRUOND. I also love Flora purin I don't have any of her record what should i buy?
    I aso have this Jazz classic album?STAN GETZ/JOAN GILBERTO great stuff with I am listening with my wife.!!
    and the brazilian artists that I love the most and Egbeto Gismonti and nana vasconcelos I have a lot records of this amazing musicians extremely recomended recomended to any prog/jazz fan!!!
    I love nana on pat ( as far as wichita), jan garbarek, and ralph towner records. Essential: masterpieces of jazz-Fussion
     
     What should you buy? EVERYTHING. I have Butterfly Dreams (which is jazz-rock at times), Encounter (more free jazz mode than the previous, grows on repeated listens and check out McCoy Tyner on keys; the former had Hermeto Pascoal on the keyboards -another great is Joe Henderson on tenor sax); also have more of her "smoother" material (Everyday Everynight with Jaco Pastorius, The Magicians, The Sun Is Out) and world ethnic fusion album Dafos. ALL RECOMMENDEDThumbs%20Up She is one of my favourite picks for this month on my mp4.


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 00:52
    Milton Nascimento with Zelia Duncan (presently the Mutantes singer) and Cristiaan Oyens: the amazing "Coração Americano".
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V53QeJFm9Q&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V53QeJFm9Q&mode=related&search =


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    Posted By: FruMp
    Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 09:33
    Sepultura are a great band

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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 10:00
    Maestro Ernesto Nazareth composed this choro there's more than 100 years and it continues to join generations: the giant Altamiro Carrilho (flute) and the great Armandinho Macedo (mandolin). Just enjoy!
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xebtehVmCyg&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xebtehVmCyg&mode=related&search =


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 15:08
    Samba!?!?
     
    Unfortunately the vast majority of non-Brazilians receive a torrent of accelerated drums labeled wrongly as samba. It's not! It's only batuque or batucada which have some relation with samba, the same relation it has with other sounds coming from the Caribbean Islands or Africa, for instance.
     
    The real samba is cool, complex, sometimes sorrowful or poignant, just like this wonderful song ("Roda Viva") composed by Chico Buarque in 1967 and recently revisted by himself accompanied by the veteran vocal group MPB-4. Smile
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYEr1pje_ag - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYEr1pje_ag
     
     


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    Posted By: andrea
    Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 15:17
    Very interesting thread, indeed!
     


    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 20:52
    Joao Gilberto with Stan Getz - Concorvado
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kJB47uzjU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kJB47uzjU
     
    Keeping the thread aliveSmile


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 22:18
    Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

    Joao Gilberto with Stan Getz - Concorvado
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kJB47uzjU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kJB47uzjU
     
    Keeping the thread aliveSmile
     
    I was thinking in reviving both threads (this one and the Latin Jazz) but my laziness pushed my will to tomorrow. Thanks JG, I owe you one! Smile


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:30
    Should the late Raul Seixas have been born in the USA and he would be praised as a great rocker which indeed he was.
     
    The clip below shows Raul Seixas or simply Raulzito dancing with his musical partner, the now internationally famous writer Paulo Coelho.
     
    Enjoy!
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoIBW43-JfQ&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoIBW43-JfQ&mode=related&search =


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    Posted By: The T
    Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 02:02
    Never forget that, unlike many southamerican countries, Brazil had a classical music composer of world stature: Heitor Villalobos.

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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 21:47
    Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

    Never forget that, unlike many southamerican countries, Brazil had a classical music composer of world stature: Heitor Villalobos.
     
    Great Heitor Villa Lobos!
     
    I particularly like this home video (made apparently in some place in Asia) of the Bachianas No. 5 's Cantilena. Poignant!
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDHn3w7ZUbQ&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDHn3w7ZUbQ&mode=related&search =


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    Posted By: markosherrera
    Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 21:54
    ANA Caram,Eliane Elias,Tania Maria,Elis Regina,Flora Purim,Astrud Gilberto,...are the musicians that I am listening all the past week,they are awesome


    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 23:26
    How about some Sergio Mendes Wink
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGMTE60D1g - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGMTE60D1g
     
    Groovy


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    Posted By: Barla
    Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 11:50
    Whenever my mom puts a Caetano Veloso album in the CD player I highly enjoy it, nice and relaxing music! Clap
    Also, now that I'm getting a lot into fusion, jazz, and others, I'm starting to like bossa nova very much since my uncle gave me a CD with classics, including the amazing Garota De Ipanema, which I play with my fusion band quite often, here's a link to a video of us playing that classic at school (I play the bass) Big%20smile:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_sNn4zRyEo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_sNn4zRyEo

    (it's not the entire version, but please watch it and tell me what you think)

    On the other hand, I enjoy very much Angra, and their Angel's Cry album is awesome! Clap


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 12:04
    Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

    Whenever my mom puts a Caetano Veloso album in the CD player I highly enjoy it, nice and relaxing music! Clap
    Also, now that I'm getting a lot into fusion, jazz, and others, I'm starting to like bossa nova very much since my uncle gave me a CD with classics, including the amazing Garota De Ipanema, which I play with my fusion band quite often, here's a link to a video of us playing that classic at school (I play the bass) Big%20smile:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_sNn4zRyEo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_sNn4zRyEo

    (it's not the entire version, but please watch it and tell me what you think)

    On the other hand, I enjoy very much Angra, and their Angel's Cry album is awesome! Clap
     
    Nice, Martín! Thumbs%20Up
     
    The sax is a bit sad just like the lyrics. Au contraire that many people think "Garota de Ipanema" is more triste than happy... an old guy seeing a young lady's beauty and knowing his moment had passed and he was unable to reach her freshness. You got the point (don't know if consciously Wink).
     
     
     


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    Posted By: Fede
    Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 12:57
    Yeah!!!! Sepultura and Krisiun rule!!!!! Their last album Assassination is awesome Clap

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    Posted By: Drew
    Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 12:58
    I liked Sepultura until they turned all "tribal"  

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    Posted By: Moogtron III
    Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 13:05
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000002G6J/sr=8-1/qid=1178039038/ref=dp_image_0/103-9447886-6863043?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music&qid=1178039038&sr=8-1">Wave
     
    I like Antonio Carlos Jobim a lot. This album especially. The music is just as cool, dreamy and sophisticated as the cover.
     
    Jobim did some great music with Elis Regina as well. 


    Posted By: andrea
    Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 14:47

    The translation of Caetano Veloso's book "Verdade Tropical"Recently has just been published in Italian...  Any suggestion about it?

      http://www.feltrinelli.it/SchedaLibro?id_volume=5000819 - http://www.feltrinelli.it/SchedaLibro?id_volume=5000819


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 14:56
    Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

    The translation of Caetano Veloso's book "Verdade Tropical"Recently has just been published in Italian...  Any suggestion about it?

      http://www.feltrinelli.it/SchedaLibro?id_volume=5000819 - http://www.feltrinelli.it/SchedaLibro?id_volume=5000819
     
    I didn't read it, A. but since Caetano always wanted to be a film-maker it should be written like a screenplay (like many of his songs too). If it was the case it may sound interesting and since either languages are so close ther translator may have kept the spirit fo the book.


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    Posted By: andrea
    Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 16:08
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

    The translation of Caetano Veloso's book "Verdade Tropical"Recently has just been published in Italian...  Any suggestion about it?

      http://www.feltrinelli.it/SchedaLibro?id_volume=5000819 - http://www.feltrinelli.it/SchedaLibro?id_volume=5000819
     
    I didn't read it, A. but since Caetano always wanted to be a film-maker it should be written like a screenplay (like many of his songs too). If it was the case it may sound interesting and since either languages are so close ther translator may have kept the spirit fo the book.
     
    Well, I'm going to add it to my collection of "musical books"...


    Posted By: fungusucantkill
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:29
    i know its not prog but Charlie Brown jr. is a personal fav. of mine. i like a lot.
    O Rappa too.
    Mamonas assasinas hahaha they're cool man.
     


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:31
    Originally posted by fungusucantkill fungusucantkill wrote:

    i know its not prog but Charlie Brown jr. is a personal fav. of mine. i like a lot.
    O Rappa too.
    Mamonas assasinas hahaha they're cool man.
     
     
    Nice to remind the Mamonas, fungus!  Sad that the 5 band members died the same day (air crash) just when they were in their career peak. Cry


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    Posted By: fungusucantkill
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:35
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    Originally posted by fungusucantkill fungusucantkill wrote:

    i know its not prog but Charlie Brown jr. is a personal fav. of mine. i like a lot.
    O Rappa too.
    Mamonas assasinas hahaha they're cool man.
     
     
    Nice to remind the Mamonas, fungus!  Sad that the 5 band members died the same day (air crash) just when they were in their career peak. Cry
    yea i know its a shame. i was hoping to one day see them.
    Are there anyone else like them around right now?


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:39
    Only cover bands... the magic also died with them.

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    Posted By: Proletariat
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:40
    I like sepultura, but I dont think that is what this thread is about.

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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:43
    Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

    I like sepultura, but I dont think that is what this thread is about.
     
    Of course it is, Pro... they get inspiration from our folk and pop-rock too.  Smile The drums in 'Roots, bloody roots' have a noticeable Brazilian touch, for instance.


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    Posted By: fungusucantkill
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:45
    have you seen that video on youtube with those 7 year old kids rockin out to sepultura? I think they are from Argentina though but they rip its awesome. i don't have a link sorry

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    Posted By: Proletariat
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:47
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

    I like sepultura, but I dont think that is what this thread is about.
     
    Of course it is, Pro... they get inspiration from our folk and pop-rock too.  Smile The drums in 'Roots, bloody roots' have a noticeable Brazilian touch, for instance.
    yea they do the whole tribal thing quite well
     
    hmmm... I had to do a report on brazil in 6th grade and had to do a report on culture, If I remember right Jazz is quite good down there


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    Posted By: JJLehto
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:18
    Yea! Sepultura! Thumbs%20Up
    I enjoyed Roots, Bloody Roots  quite alot.


    Posted By: Proletariat
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:23
    Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

    Yea! Sepultura! Thumbs%20Up
    I enjoyed Roots, Bloody Roots  quite alot.
    hold a second... we could probably add them under prog relatedLOL


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    Posted By: JJLehto
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:27
    I'm all for it!


    Posted By: Proletariat
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:30
    ^^^
    oh god... now i'm gunna be blamed for this, we dont need more "related bands"


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    Posted By: JJLehto
    Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 23:36
    Nah man, I'll take the blame, tis cool.
    And besides Sepultura I don't know any Brazilian music so....guess I'm out.


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 20:54
    Reviving this topic to post a new name in the Brazilian music scene: Vander Lee.
     
    He sings a beautiful song... "Do Brasil". I recommend (a prog-related arrangement, indeed).
     
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRS-JcwO8PU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRS-JcwO8PU


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 22:16
    Not a brazilian artist but Cannonball Adderley had great fascination for the brazilian music scene
     
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Lc7aBRV5S0 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Lc7aBRV5S0
     
    Not really a samba as the title suggests.


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    Posted By: markosherrera
    Date Posted: May 17 2007 at 19:52
    Stan Getz too.


    Posted By: andrea
    Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 04:06

    Well, I've just finished to read Caetono Veloso's book "Tropical Truth"... Very interesting and instructive, especially when explaining the importance of popular culture, poetry, cinema and politics on the Brazilian musical scene... Highly recommended!

    http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0306812819/ref=s9_asin_image_1/104-7429411-5937533?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=00J6E1TDE41AFBRQ1S0N&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240801&pf_rd_i=507846 - http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0306812819/ref=s9_asin_image_1/104-7429411-5937533?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=00J6E1TDE41AFBRQ1S0N&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240801&pf_rd_i=507846


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 10:19
    Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

    Well, I've just finished to read Caetono Veloso's book "Tropical Truth"... Very interesting and instructive, especially when explaining the importance of popular culture, poetry, cinema and politics on the Brazilian musical scene... Highly recommended!

    http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0306812819/ref=s9_asin_image_1/104-7429411-5937533?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=00J6E1TDE41AFBRQ1S0N&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240801&pf_rd_i=507846 - http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0306812819/ref=s9_asin_image_1/104-7429411-5937533?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=00J6E1TDE41AFBRQ1S0N&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240801&pf_rd_i=507846
     
    Now I recommend you coming here, andrea, to check the places & people cited by Veloso! Wink


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    Posted By: andrea
    Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 12:11
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

    Well, I've just finished to read Caetono Veloso's book "Tropical Truth"... Very interesting and instructive, especially when explaining the importance of popular culture, poetry, cinema and politics on the Brazilian musical scene... Highly recommended!

    http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0306812819/ref=s9_asin_image_1/104-7429411-5937533?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=00J6E1TDE41AFBRQ1S0N&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240801&pf_rd_i=507846 - http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0306812819/ref=s9_asin_image_1/104-7429411-5937533?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=00J6E1TDE41AFBRQ1S0N&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240801&pf_rd_i=507846
     
    Now I recommend you coming here, andrea, to check the places & people cited by Veloso! Wink
     
    Oh, it's quite difficult for me now... but sooner or later I will do it!
    In the meantime, since prog is not my only passion, I will listen to some CD of Jorge Ben, Gilberto Gil, Caetano Veloso, Edu Lobo, Ivan Lins, Joao Gilberto etc...
    Guigo, please, try to write a blog about Brazilian Music, I think it would be interesting... Caetano Veloso wrote that he didn't love Progressive Rock... Os Mutantes instead did... Veloso and Os Mutantes were both part of the Tropicalist movement... What was exactly the impact of Prog Rock on the Brazilian scene?
     


    Posted By: Progger58
    Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 13:09
    Some days ago I did a list of current favorite Brazilian albums for a friend from another forum, so I will post the same list here:
     
    - EDU LOBO - Corrupião (this is definitely on the top)
    - ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM - Passarim & Urubu
    - GUINGA - Delirio Carioca
    - EDUARDO GUDIN - Noticias dum Brasil
    - NANÁ VASCONCELOS - Contaminação
    - MILTON NASCIMENTO - Musica do Mundo
    - QUINTETO VIOLADO - Quinteto Canta Vandré
    - EGBERTO GISMONTI - Academia de Danças
    - DUOFEL - Atenciosamente, Duofel
    - UAKTI - I Ching & Trilobyte
    - SIVUCA - Pau Doido
    - EUMIR DEODATO - Percepção
    - HELIO DELMIRO - Compassos
    - CESAR CAMARGO MARIANO - Cesar Camargo Mariano & Cia
    - LENINE - Na Pressão
    - BEBEL GILBERTO - Tanto Tempo
    - JANE DUBOC - Todos os Caminhos
     
    These are, in my opinion, some of the finest recordings of non-prog Brazilian music someone can ever listen to. Clap
     
    Demetrio.


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 14:23

    @ andrea: Caetano Veloso is sometimes (or many times, according to others) "pretentious, luring and self-indulgent", ops... isn't it what outsiders say about prog? Tongue In fact, Veloso collects fans and foes easily with his professoral posture. Probably he doesn't like prog-rock but he was neatly influenced by the genre; anyway, his partner Gilberto Gil was more influenced by prog (at least in the late 60s & early 70s) altogether with Mutantes and other names of the Tropicalismo movement.

    However, the main progressive influence IMO can be felt in the Clube da Esquina movement, led by Milton Nascimento and friends, which was extremely fertile in the 70s, echoing until today. This influence came mainly from symphonic prog although folk-prog & jazz-fusion have their quotas too.
     
    The idea of a text about Brazilian Music  sounds interesting. Approve
     
    @ Progger58: great list (however I don't know Duofel and Hélio Delmiro and cannot remember Gudin's work * Embarrassed). I'd include two other albums: Elis & Tom (1974) and the mentioned Clube da Esquina (1972). I also like O Grande Circo Místico (1982) by Chico Buarque & Edu Lobo. Otherwise, I believe that Quinteto Violado and Egberto Gismonti have a place here in the Archives. Smile
     
    * I once met a guy who told me he didn't ever listen to Eduardo Gudin cause he thought he was a relative of conservative philosopher Eugênio Gudin. Shocked


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    Posted By: tardis
    Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 14:29
    I really enjoy A Barca Do Sol, but I've only been able to get their self-titled album Cry

    Unfortunately their music is obscure and hard to find (at least where I live)...



    Posted By: Progger58
    Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 19:14
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    @ Progger58: great list (however I don't know Duofel and Hélio Delmiro and cannot remember Gudin's work * Embarrassed).
    So you need to give this great composer a listen. His music reminds me Tom Jobim a lot (with great vocal harmonies in the same Jobim style), and I highly recommend the album I listed above, "Noticias dum Brasil". Clap
     
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    I'd include two other albums: Elis & Tom (1974) and the mentioned Clube da Esquina (1972). I also like O Grande Circo Místico (1982) by Chico Buarque & Edu Lobo. Otherwise, I believe that Quinteto Violado and Egberto Gismonti have a place here in the Archives. Smile
    I will also second these great suggestions. Thumbs%20Up
     
    E muito obrigado pelas boas-vindas, meu caro compatriota!! Thumbs%20Up
     
    Demetrio.


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 20:48
    Reviving this topic with...
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNiadGFhU0&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNiadGFhU0&mode=related&search =
     
    Milton Nascimento & Naná Vasconcelos - 'San Vicente'
     
    Thumbs%20Up


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 20:53
    I managed to get this album
     
     
    What a great composer he is! and guitarist/pianist/flutist too


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 20:54
    JG, Gismonti is being evaluated to be included in the ProgArchives! Smile
     
    EDIT: by the way, I'm really sure that the Club da Esquina movement led by Milton Nascimento & friends, in the 70s and 80s are "real prog". Check this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0oVxWYOA8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0oVxWYOA8


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 20:58
    I have my doubts, he's definitely progressive, no doubt; but we're discussing how much "rock" there is in his music to consider him a prog rock artist; at least from what I heard there's not much rock, but perhaps there are more rocky albums in his somewhat extense discography.

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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 21:04
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    JG, Gismonti is being evaluated to be included in the ProgArchives! Smile
     
    EDIT: by the way, I'm really sure that the Club da Esquina movement led by Milton Nascimento & friends, in the 70s and 80s are "real prog". Check this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0oVxWYOA8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0oVxWYOA8
     
    NiceThumbs%20Up, there's a neo-prog feeling to it, I might be wrong though


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    Posted By: Progger58
    Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 21:10
    Egberto Gismonti's early stuff is very progressive indeed. "Academia de Danças", for example (released in 1975), is genuinely progressive rock at the best!! Clap


    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 21:13
    SmileI'll have to get that one.

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    Posted By: andrea
    Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 12:19
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    JG, Gismonti is being evaluated to be included in the ProgArchives! Smile
     
    EDIT: by the way, I'm really sure that the Club da Esquina movement led by Milton Nascimento & friends, in the 70s and 80s are "real prog". Check this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0oVxWYOA8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0oVxWYOA8
     
    Very interesting video indeed!


    Posted By: markosherrera
    Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 18:20
    Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

    I have my doubts, he's definitely progressive, no doubt; but we're discussing how much "rock" there is in his music to consider him a prog rock artist; at least from what I heard there's not much rock, but perhaps there are more rocky albums in his somewhat extense discography.
    ....cHUS ,FOR BE A PROG IS NOT NECESSARY BE ROCK,NO ES NECESARIO QUE UNA MUSICA SEA ROCK PARA QUE SEA PROGRESIVA,for example electronic music,zeuhl,experimental etc


    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 18:56
    Those forms of prog were also somewhat influenced by rock (whatever rock is anywayLOL, perhaps also measured by the type of instrumentation) what I know is that from what I heard Egberto is not exactly jazz-rock artist but more of a world fusion/latin fusion artist with some avant and symphonic tendencies, I have to listen further though, because I only heard about three albums by him only. I think that Airto could also merit being here, because he used jazz-rock formatting many times during his career, but he also is a figure in world music and world jazz.

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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 22:14
    Probably a surprise for many... the most Brazilian of the musical instruments: the 10-string guitar (the "viola caipira" or simply "viola"):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnKXb_Ywk8g&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnKXb_Ywk8g&mode=related&search =
     
    The "viola" fever is so great that there are many orchestras composed only with this instruments:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ter7FWSJsNU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ter7FWSJsNU
     
    Man, I love this sound!!! Star
     


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    Posted By: avestin
    Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 19:06
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    Probably a surprise for many... the most Brazilian of the musical instruments: the 10-string guitar (the "viola caipira" or simply "viola"):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnKXb_Ywk8g&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnKXb_Ywk8g&mode=related&search =
     
    The "viola" fever is so great that there are many orchestras composed only with this instruments:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ter7FWSJsNU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ter7FWSJsNU
     
    Man, I love this sound!!! Star
     
     
    This is great! Love the sound of it and the music.
     


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    http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors




    Posted By: andrea
    Date Posted: June 14 2007 at 15:59
    This is the link of the official website of an interesting Italo-Brazilian artist... More jazz oriented than prog... Anyway you can listen to the samples just clicking on "Ascolta" on the main page...
    http://www.sandymuller.it/italiano/main.html - http://www.sandymuller.it/italiano/main.html


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 00:06
    Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

    This is the link of the official website of an interesting Italo-Brazilian artist... More jazz oriented than prog... Anyway you can listen to the samples just clicking on "Ascolta" on the main page...
    http://www.sandymuller.it/italiano/main.html - http://www.sandymuller.it/italiano/main.html
     
    Very very interesting... Star
     
    A soft voice excellent for bossa nova stuff. Thumbs%20Up


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    Posted By: Chus
    Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 14:28
    Another Egberto album.. a duo with acclaimed percussionist Nana Vasconcelos. Great acoustic brazilian avant music. Duas Vozes
     


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 17:45
    I always say that many sounds of the Middle Ages & Renaissance are still alive in the deepest parts of Brazil. I recommend you to check this folk act:
    http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJgdIXej0A - http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJgdIXej0A


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    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: November 09 2007 at 19:30
    Reviving this old topic only to post a link for a great video from the great Ivan Lins... also with the lyrics in Portuguese. Wink
     
    http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=fX3-tsFJkS4 - http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=fX3-tsFJkS4 http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=PKRc6zAqC-s -


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    Posted By: aapatsos
    Date Posted: November 09 2007 at 20:07
    good to revive the topic

    I have to say I admire Angra, at least their first 2-3 albums with Andre Matos (I think...)
    on the vocals. Holy Land is an absolute masterpiece of power/prog metal

    I did like Sepultura before becoming ...bloody rooted LOL


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 06:43
    Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

    good to revive the topic

    I have to say I admire Angra, at least their first 2-3 albums with Andre Matos (I think...)
    on the vocals. Holy Land is an absolute masterpiece of power/prog metal

    I did like Sepultura before becoming ...bloody rooted LOL
     
    Angra playing acoustic in the Brazilian TV... with Edu Falaschi in the main vocals. Smile
     
    http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=vX7FiGTQy6g - http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=vX7FiGTQy6g


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    Posted By: JayDee
    Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 06:51
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

    Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

    good to revive the topic

    I have to say I admire Angra, at least their first 2-3 albums with Andre Matos (I think...)
    on the vocals. Holy Land is an absolute masterpiece of power/prog metal

    I did like Sepultura before becoming ...bloody rooted LOL
     
    Angra playing acoustic in the Brazilian TV... with Edu Falaschi in the main vocals. Smile
     
    http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=vX7FiGTQy6g - http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=vX7FiGTQy6g
    Lovely, lovely!!!!Clap
    I wish they'd sing more with their natuve tongue though.


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    Posted By: andrea
    Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 09:17
    Thumbs%20Up


    Posted By: aapatsos
    Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 09:39
    Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

     
    Angra playing acoustic in the Brazilian TV... with Edu Falaschi in the main vocals. Smile
     
    http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=vX7FiGTQy6g - http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=vX7FiGTQy6g


    Very very good Clap
    are they so popular in Brazil?
    I would have never imagined a metal group
    playing in front of the TV...


    Posted By: Atkingani
    Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 19:10
    I'd say they're fairly popular in Brazil... Smile

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    Posted By: victor77
    Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 05:51
    CHEIRO DE VIDA, incredible power trio commanded by the outstanding bassist Andre Gomes



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