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lucas

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 08:44

The Dixie Dregs without Steve Morse.

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 08:26

illustrated wrote:

the musical box wrote:

Jethro Tull; i mean can you picture Tehm without Ian anderson

Haha, I was just thinking that.

Another obvious one... Pnk Floyd. They just weren't the same after Roger Waters left. Albums like The Divison Bell are good, but they are nowhere near the quality of Animals, WYWH, DSOTM, Meddle, Atom Heart Mother... even The Wall.

The only reason why I didn't mention Piper is because it was predominantly Syd Barrett.

I happen to dislike Roger Waters (not as a musician, but for his attitudes), so I don't think such thing. In fact, I like both Pulse and The division bell and don't miss Waters at all.

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 08:20

threefates WROTE:

Well this is pretty simple... but Emerson Lake & Palmer wouldn't be the same band if any of them left...

but in order for them to be Emerson Lake & Palmer... they all 3 have to be there!!

Really three fates how should you think of such a thing.

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 08:13

illustrated wrote:

The only reason why I didn't mention Piper is because it was predominantly Syd Barrett.

Actually I know a lot of people who would disagree with you on that. And evidently according to sales, PF did just as well, if not better after Roger Waters was gone. Personally I think TDB and AMLOR are just as good, if not better than the Wall, and quite a few earlier Floyd albums.

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 05:12

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The Doors did a gig last year, they engaged a famous singer which name is elusive to me right now. During the years they hadn't produced new music, they were redoing the old songs over and over.

Edit: the famous wasn´t the singer, but the drummer: Stuart Copeland take the place of former drummer, cause the latter suffers from a hearing discapability.

I just found out that The Doors toured last year with Ian Astbury from the Cult as front man, you are right its all old songs though.

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 03:24

Another one: Axel Rudi Pell.

If Axel Rudi Pell left the band, they wouldn't be called Axel Rudi Pell anymore? Geddit?

(ARP can also be replaced with Van Halen).

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 01:43

the musical box wrote:

Jethro Tull; i mean can you picture Tehm without Ian anderson

Haha, I was just thinking that.

The only reason why I didn't mention Piper is because it was predominantly Syd Barrett.

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 00:58

Well this is pretty simple... but Emerson Lake & Palmer wouldn't be the same band if any of them left...

It could be Emerson Lake & somebody else

or Emerson & Palmer and somebody else

or Lake & Palmer and somebody else...

but in order for them to be Emerson Lake & Palmer... they all 3 have to be there!!

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Posted: February 17 2005 at 00:25

ME!

It's the same guy. Great minds think alike.

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 23:17

mirco wrote:

The Doors did a gig last year, they engaged a famous singer which name is elusive to me right now. During the years they hadn't produced new music, they were redoing the old songs over and over.

Edit: the famous wasn´t the singer, but the drummer: Stuart Copeland take the place of former drummer, cause the latter suffers from a hearing discapability.

Didn't the Latter also sue them for ruining the great name of the Doors?

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 19:59

The Doors did a gig last year, they engaged a famous singer which name is elusive to me right now. During the years they hadn't produced new music, they were redoing the old songs over and over.

Edit: the famous wasn´t the singer, but the drummer: Stuart Copeland take the place of former drummer, cause the latter suffers from a hearing discapability.

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 19:58

I must say that Krieger had a really good solo career though! Never heard anything by Densmore (If he did anything after Morrison kicked the bucket) or Manzarek though.

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 19:51

Petra wrote:

mirco wrote:

There are certain bands that couldn't survive the departure of one member. Right now, I'm thinking about The Doors: after Morrison's death. the band falls apart. Maybe Queen is another one, except that even before Mercury gones they already were practically out of business. Any other example?

Led Zeppelin felt they couldn't continue without Bonham.

Sometimes bands don't know when to give up and go on forever producing inferior music like Black Sabbath ...

BUT i heard that The Doors have re-grouped with (Ray Manzarek heading i think) and released some new material according to a friend of mine, and its supposed to be pretty impressive too. Queen are touring with Paul Rodgers from Free soon too, be interesting to see how that goes.

God, I heard about the Doors thing. It seems so wrong. Manzarek is obsessed, he needs to accept that the Doors are no more!

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 19:49

Focus without van Leer.

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 19:48

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Maybe Zeppelin couldn't deal with Boham's death, I'm not so sure about this fact (Rob the Plant sure have an answer to this).

Righto I do.

The 4 were so close throughout their Zep years, if anyone of them would have been out the band couldn't have survived. I think it's fair to says that a band who lasts over 10 years, with the same tour manager throughout (except for the very end) is very dependant on one another.

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 17:36

Valarius wrote:

Megadeth. Mustaine leaves, so does the band. (They're now back, kinda).

That's a good one. Motorhead is another band like that with Lemmy essentially always at the helm.

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 17:14

Megadeth. Mustaine leaves, so does the band. (They're now back, kinda).

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 15:29

Van Der Graaf Generator without Peter Hammill also springs to mind.

Likewise Thin Lizzy and Phil Lynnott.

The Who should have called it a day after Moon died - they could have gone on working together, just under a different name.

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 14:53

the musical box wrote:

Jethro Tull; i mean can you picture Tehm without Ian anderson

I can picture Ian Anderson alone and it will be still JT; I can picture a band with all the Tullist but without Anderson, and it won't be JT.

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Posted: February 16 2005 at 14:48

SPOCK'S BEARD after Neal Morse left has been so out of focus...

Actually, their last three Neal-era albums have had their ups and downs, but IMHO "Snow" had some signals of full frontal creative recovery - and then, Neal left, and all the euphoria and fuel that were still left in SB's music and performance skills was gone. Don't pay attention to the titles of the post-Neal albums -- they're so deceitful!!!

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